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Fields:another OSU QB bust?

Fields was hot and cold in college. Probably a scheme thing, I remember him looking like a world beater against Clemson in the semi-final and looking totally different in the championship game. He is extremely talented, but so is everyone else in the NFL.
 
He never got hit in college until the playoffs.

He doesn't have 1 WR comparable to his 4th best WR he threw to in college this year.

They were in the game vs Green Bay until his goal line run was not ruled a TD.

I still don't think he's going to be a great pro.
 
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He never got hit in college until the playoffs.

He doesn't have 1 WR comparable to his 4th best WR he threw to in college this year.

They were in the game vs Green Bay until his goal line run was not ruled a TD.

I still don't think he's going to be a great pro.
I'm from Chicago (Northwestern grad) and somewhat familiar with our "baby" Bears. It's not just Fields as the whole Bears skilled position room is lacking. The Bears are definitely in a rebuilding cycle. Not sure about Fields yet, he has some really great physical skills but seems unsure at times when to release the ball. Maybe that's just part of being young and still very inexperienced. Time will tell.
 
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Not going to learn too much this year as the Bears sold the farm to stockpile cap money for next season. Fields has almost no supporting cast.
 
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Not going to learn too much this year as the Bears sold the farm to stockpile cap money for next season. Fields has almost no supporting cast.
Exactly right. Saying the cupboard is bare is a huge understatement when applying it to the Bears. Fields has absolutely no supporting cast which is why I don't want to judge him this quick.
 
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I'm from Chicago (Northwestern grad) and somewhat familiar with our "baby" Bears. It's not just Fields as the whole Bears skilled position room is lacking. The Bears are definitely in a rebuilding cycle. Not sure about Fields yet, he has some really great physical skills but seems unsure at times when to release the ball. Maybe that's just part of being young and still very inexperienced. Time will tell.
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He never got hit in college until the playoffs.

He doesn't have 1 WR comparable to his 4th best WR he threw to in college this year.

They were in the game vs Green Bay until his goal line run was not ruled a TD.

I still don't think he's going to be a great pro.
I say too early to call it right now but certainly to your point of not being hit and having WRs open by 10 yards, that doesn't adequately prepare you for the NFL.
 
I don't see how a guy who makes it to the NFL is a bust. Moving from the college game to the pros is a huge step at QB and getting that first round money and hopefully being smart with it sets up a guy for life. Regardless of NFL success.
His bankroll may not be busted but the team that spent a top draft choice plus huge contract monies would have a different opinion of the outcome. As well as the fan base.
 
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His bankroll may not be busted but the team that spent a top draft choice plus huge contract monies would have a different opinion of the outcome. As well as the fan base.
I don't really care about the NFL, so that part doesn't really blip on my radar. And he went to the Bears, I can't recall them ever any any big time QB. Top level NFL Qbs are pretty rare so most guys will fall into the Fields category.
 
I don't see how a guy who makes it to the NFL is a bust. Moving from the college game to the pros is a huge step at QB and getting that first round money and hopefully being smart with it sets up a guy for life. Regardless of NFL success.
Except it doesn't. 70% of nfl players are bankrupt within a few years of leaving the NFL. I wish that weren't the case but it is the rule rather than the exception.
 
Except it doesn't. 70% of nfl players are bankrupt within a few years of leaving the NFL. I wish that weren't the case but it is the rule rather than the exception.
Hey that's on them , but how is that relevant to if he's a bust or not? If his performance level is high maybe he's more likely to be successful financially but maybe this is due to the fact most NFL players were not really college material and were fortunate to go into a field with an extremely high salary to start with a very high ceiling if they excel.
But still most make more than enough money to set themselves up for life if they have basic money management skills.
 
Hey that's on them , but how is that relevant to if he's a bust or not? If his performance level is high maybe he's more likely to be successful financially but maybe this is due to the fact most NFL players were not really college material and were fortunate to go into a field with an extremely high salary to start with a very high ceiling if they excel.
But still most make more than enough money to set themselves up for life if they have basic money management skills.
It's not. It was merely a realization about the setting themselves up for life comment. Certainly I agree they could, absolutely should, but the reality is that they don't.

Honestly I feel the NFL should do more to prevent the overwhelming majority from squandering it. These guys aren't at the pinnacle of their profession because of their brains, they run fast and hit hard. Help them by forcing at least 25% of pay to a trust that invests even conservatively and allows them to draw maybe up to 8 to 10% per year of total value at retirement date after.

I know that's a big brother approach but the evidence overwhelmingly shows they need it.
 
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It's not. It was merely a realization about the setting themselves up for life comment. Certainly I agree they could, absolutely should, but the reality is that they don't.

Honestly I feel the NFL should do more to prevent the overwhelming majority from squandering it. These guys aren't at the pinnacle of their profession because of their brains, they run fast and hit hard. Help them by forcing at least 25% of pay to a trust that invests even conservatively and allows them to draw maybe up to 8 to 10% per year of total value at retirement date after.

I know that's a big brother approach but the evidence overwhelmingly shows they need it.
I agree but I'm focusing on the OSU bust thing. My point is getting the contract means you're not really a bust since QB might be one of the tougher positions to evaluate.
 
I'm from Chicago (Northwestern grad) and somewhat familiar with our "baby" Bears. It's not just Fields as the whole Bears skilled position room is lacking. The Bears are definitely in a rebuilding cycle. Not sure about Fields yet, he has some really great physical skills but seems unsure at times when to release the ball. Maybe that's just part of being young and still very inexperienced. Time will tell.
Seemd like they have "rebuilding" since '85 - I too am a Bears fan - grew up in Northbrook - not much joy around the Windy City for any of the pro teams - Bi=ulls at leat are getting better.
 
I agree but I'm focusing on the OSU bust thing. My point is getting the contract means you're not really a bust since QB might be one of the tougher positions to evaluate.
I think for most bust means did not live up to where they were selected in the draft. It is true that Fields cashed in. So he wasn't a bust in college but we already knew that. The question it seems is will he be a bust in the pros like those that came before him.
 
I'm more concerned about what a college QB does while in college. Give me an NFL bust every season if they are able to lead my CFB team to success. Wish them success in their professional career but I'll take the guy that is a great CFB QB.

Certainly not going to bellyache about how this or that QB is an NFL bust, particularly if he kicks ass as a CFB player.
 
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I think for most bust means did not live up to where they were selected in the draft. It is true that Fields cashed in. So he wasn't a bust in college but we already knew that. The question it seems is will he be a bust in the pros like those that came before him.
I get that take but we’re not talking first round engineers . It’s a tough , physical game and so many things can end a career.
 
The story of every Suckeye QB for decades.
The common theme is that most of those OSU QBs were running also QBs and had OK-decent arms. Pryor, JT Barrett, Fields.......although Fields stands a much better chance in the NFL than the rest. I think most of knew it was a long shot that those OSU QBs made it in the NFL. They sure were very effective CF QBs however.

The one that will tell the story is their current QB - CJ Stroud - who is strictly a drop back passer and will run if - and only if - it's the last option. He was Ryan Day's 1st QB recruit and he just has the look of a future NFL QB. His accuracy is off the charts. Keep in mind, Ryan Day was a QB coach in the NFL. Stroud's backups - McCord (from Philly) and their Calif kid 3rd string - can't remember his name - are also both pass-first QBs and run only at last resort.
 
His bankroll may not be busted but the team that spent a top draft choice plus huge contract monies would have a different opinion of the outcome. As well as the fan base.
A year or so from now the Steelers will be in the same place with Clipboard Kenny. Another bust in the making.
 
Exactly right. Saying the cupboard is bare is a huge understatement when applying it to the Bears. Fields has absolutely no supporting cast which is why I don't want to judge him this quick.
They also have a new coaching staff. I'm a Bears fan and am anxious to know if Fields will work out but unfortunately I don't see that answer coming for another year.
 
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