‘Bama trying to throw away its playoff chances.
Finebaum can’t be happy
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Just 3 more loses and Bama will probably be out of the "playoff" hunt.
Their losing just shows how tough their schedule is - should give them a bump in the polls
Bama still has a good shot at 9-3--I know people don't want to believe that but they do. They need some help but they wouldn't be done
Auburn might not be an easy win next week for them either
All that said, DeBoer's going to be feeling some heat if they don't make this at least interesting--probably have to win for him not to be on the hot seat heading into next year
Auburn might not be an easy win next week for them either
All that said, DeBoer's going to be feeling some heat if they don't make this at least interesting--probably have to win for him not to be on the hot seat heading into next year
It'll be interesting to see how far they drop if this game holds. The other game chaos could help them, but now they will definitely be behind Ole Miss and IU.
KDB about to get tossed...
Will the be behind Ole Miss? That's going to be interesting.
Indiana yes--they'll need help. Vandy or USC are the best options
The rankings will be very interesting if these scores hold up. As of now in playoffs and all look like locks
4 big ten
Miami
Texas
Notre Dame
Big 12 winner
Boise
georgia
Tennessee
One spot left
Acc may get second in and has good shot at that now
Texas am only if they win conference
Bama in trouble
Miss out
4 big ten
Miami
Texas
Notre Dame
Big 12 winner
Boise
georgia
Tennessee
One spot left
Acc may get second in and has good shot at that now
Texas am only if they win conference
Bama in trouble
Miss out
Looking at today's results, Ole Miss was at least competitive today. Bama has been shutdown so far. OU and Florida are essentially the same type of team this year. I figure that is enough to drop Bama more than the Fighting Kiffins.
I don't think Vandy beating Tennessee helps Bama now, but I could be underestimating the pull of the Tide. Perhaps if they win by 10+?
USC, yes.
I know I’m older and don’t understand things, but why are players wearing a mouth piece they have in their mouth and one they hang from their facemask. Asking for a friend
I’m guessing it’s in case they drop and lose the one that isn’t attached.
And also, after all his Big Ten whining I hope someone asks him, how did the top big ten teams do against 5-5 (1-5) teams this weekend?? Go $hit in your hat you hillbilly clown box!
When Finebaum et all say PSU had done "nothing" this season, the main 'nothing' is that, to date, the Lions haven't lost to the teams 6-4ish or 5-5ish teams like so many of the SEC contenders have. Oklahoma is dominating Alabama right now. Ol'Miss, who has looked awesome at times this year, just lost to Florida, and TA&M isn't out of the woods against Auburn yet.
I don't think the ACC has any shot to get two teams.
(4) The only locks (meaning they can lose next week) are
Oregon
Ohio State
Penn State
Texas
(3) Win and you're in
Notre Dame is in if they beat USC
Georiga is in if they beat GT (they might be a lock now even with a loss)
Tennessee is in if they beat Vandy (not sold on that happening)
(3) Auto bids
ACC
Big XII (or AAC)
Boise State if they win out
That leaves two spots
If A&M beats Texas then A&M and Indiana
If Texas beats A&M then Indiana and Ole Miss/Bama
The Massey Composite Index is determined by a human that created the calculations
The committee works in every other college sport--it's fine
Looks like Indiana has a spot now. They lose in the shoe to OSU and Bama is being ground to dust by a mediocre Oklahoma team, after being soundly beaten by Vandy. Miss is just as bad. T a&m falters every time someone begins to praise them. Tenn is Tenn. And even the esteemed Georgia has looked pretty bad at times.
When they play well, most of these teams are really good. But, they are really inconsistent with all of them capable of losing big to almost anyone.
Feinbaum and the other ESPN hacks should be pressed on why the SEC should get more than 2 teams in the playoff.
Should be Oregon, OSU, PSU, Indy, ND, Texas, Miami, Boise, ASU(?Big12), Georgia, Tenn (back from the dead again), Clemson (?). Only 3 loss teams should be conference title game losers. There aren't a lot left to pick from.
When they play well, most of these teams are really good. But, they are really inconsistent with all of them capable of losing big to almost anyone.
Feinbaum and the other ESPN hacks should be pressed on why the SEC should get more than 2 teams in the playoff.
Should be Oregon, OSU, PSU, Indy, ND, Texas, Miami, Boise, ASU(?Big12), Georgia, Tenn (back from the dead again), Clemson (?). Only 3 loss teams should be conference title game losers. There aren't a lot left to pick from.
If Auburn comes back then I agree but it's not a lock for Indiana yet
And, I know this sounds dumb, but they have to beat Purdue--not that Purdue should be a challenge but...
3 loss teams would have made the playoffs most years--why would this year we different? It's why I've said all along a 3 loss team will be in
I don't understand why anyone thinks the ACC or Big XII should have two teams in a 12 team playoff
$EC trying to keep TAMU from getting their 3rd loss. Two horrific back to back called against Auburn.
Behind a 3-loss 'Ole Miss team that lost for the second time to a bottom-half SEC team on the road ('Ole Miss is currently the 3rd highest ranked SEC team in CFP Rankings at #9). Bama and 'Ole Miss will likely both drop behind aTm if they win.
Meanwhile, all the know-nothing loudmouths bitch and moan about PSU winning a Conference road game against a top-half team that came into game 6-4.
They didn't lose to Oklahoma. It was the tough SEC schedule that got them.
It's actually a combination of many algorithms developed by humans. The difference is that it isn't subjective once it is defined. Results are not based on the "eye test," i.e., what someone thinks is a team's potential based on its roster, coaching, heritage, etc. Only results matter.
If it has a flaw it is the lack of current season cross-conference competition, so some weight is given to the results of past seasons. That's the problem when you have too many teams and not enough games -- all the more reason to use an algorithm that doesn't get changed mid-season. A lack of data, call it statistical uncertainty, is the reason using subjective humans is even worse.
Still--there's a human factor
I'm fine with the committee--I love data but I don't trust anything that's been manipulated
Only conference WINNERS takes all the humans and biases out of the decision. Of course it also probably takes a bunch of profit out too so it will never happen.
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It was about as bad as Finebaum could have dreamed.
It also would require conferences as they are to cease to exist so 15 of the best 18 teams aren't in 2 conferences
The irony of today was that the three teams that didn't schedule the customary game-11 out of conference cupcakes, all lost on the road, and the team that he hates so much, had probably a tougher road game than all three, PSU, won. And you just know he hates that even more.
The new narrative now will be that South Carolina should make it; I already heard that today. That will be until they lose next week.
They'll beat Clemson--Clemson isn't a good team--but, no, they won't be considered. Bama and Ole Miss are the two very much alive--not even sure they need help though ND or Indiana losing would ensure one if not both of them get in.
It does matter
Look at SMU or Miami--who have they beat? Louisville
There aren't many teams left to pick from
We're down to ACC teams that have played absolutely no one or a 3-loss Bama or Ole Miss
I think Bama gets in over SMU for sure and likley Miami if it comes down to that
If Syracuse beats Miami next week of Cal beats SMU then we know they will
You have to be as shocked as Paul considering you had this as one of the 2 guaranteed loses left on the schedule after the OSU game along with Washington.
Miami-FL will be ranked #7 after this weekend, SMU will be at least #12 if not #11. If they both win out and the Committee doesn’t (by and large) penalize CCG losers for the extra game, I definitely think a 11-2 ACC team gets in over a 9-3 SEC team. Especially if it’s Miami-FL who the committee in general seems to respect.
SMU is at the top of the ACC. The rankings won’t reflect it but they are undefeated in ACC play.
You're right because it's an invitational tournament designed to make the most money not a playoff. Bama has lost 3 games. One being Vanderbilt and tonight Oklahoma. They should be out in a fair system. It's not fair. It's only about the money. It's an invitational to put together what a bunch of opinionated people think are the most entertaining and profitable games. If Army wins their conference they should be in but the "committee" will determine that nobody wants to watch Oregon vs Army etc. etc. etc. so they won't get in.
Enjoy the games but if you believe it's in anyway a playoff while you leave out conference winners you're kidding yourself.
That's it. Not going down this path with you again. I think winning matters you don't as evidenced by your advocacy of teams with 3 losses. You just want to see what you think are the most entertaining games. That's fine but it's not a playoff of the most deserving winning teams it's just a money making invitational tournament. Enjoy.
I think there's a very good shot the ACC gets two teams in after today. 4 B1G. 3 SEC, 2 ACC, 1 B12, ND, Boise.
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