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Flo on DeSanto ... coming Wednesday!

He's right, it would not go over well at all. The threads about Robles after he beat McDougal definitely had the same type of bitterness.
I think we are being rather tough on our B1G brethren on HR. They are stuck with only a bitter taste in their mouth and to expect more is fruitless. Heck they can not even deliver sour like a lemon, or sweet like honey. Anymore to be a Hawkeye wrestling fan is to carry bitter like a badge of courage.
 
I think we are being rather tough on our B1G brethren on HR. They are stuck with only a bitter taste in their mouth and to expect more is fruitless. Heck they can not even deliver sour like a lemon, or sweet like honey. Anymore to be a Hawkeye wrestling fan is to carry bitter like a badge of courage.
You couldn't be farther from the truth. How about trying to focus on supporting your own team instead of constantly tearing apart others? Just a thought
 
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Kind of amusing to see a bunch of Iowa fans get so emotionally involved about a match between two Pennsylvania wrestlers, in a Pennsylvania state tournament. Whatever happened to Iowa wrestling, the absolute epicenter of the wrestling universe?
 
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You couldn't be farther from the truth. How about trying to focus on supporting your own team instead of constantly tearing apart others? Just a thought
Now come on. Do I really tear apart other teams? I am currently a bit unrelenting on Rutgers having one wrestler in the lineup, but oh well.
I don't go ripping on Spencer, Glynn, Turk, Sorenson, Kemmerer, Marinelli, Gunther, Bowman, Wilke or Stoll. I do make comments about many of the fans of Hawkeye wrestling who post on the Hawkeye Report. That isn't ripping the Hawkeye wrestling team at all. Pointing out the Hawk program is currently struggling to maintain a position in the top 3, 4 or 5 in the country is not ripping on anybody. It simply is what it is.
Just a thought.
 
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You couldn't be farther from the truth. How about trying to focus on supporting your own team instead of constantly tearing apart others? Just a thought
I forgot.
Nice "Anybody else think the Flo DeSanto - Lee video is a good idea" thread.
 
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You couldn't be farther from the truth. How about trying to focus on supporting your own team instead of constantly tearing apart others? Just a thought

This is rich. Have you posted this on HR? I doubt it.

EDIT - It looks like Turk is willing to tell the worst of the worst on HR to pipe down and cut the nonsense, so I give him credit for that.
 
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Not a joke.

Man. I guess I'll have to reach out. I've known Martin and Joe since they started the whole thing. It's clear the venture capitalists have different ideas from them. Thanks for that very depressing nugget.
 
Kind of amusing to see a bunch of Iowa fans get so emotionally involved about a match between two Pennsylvania wrestlers, in a Pennsylvania state tournament. Whatever happened to Iowa wrestling, the absolute epicenter of the wrestling universe?
It's very odd, like some of them actually gave birth to the kid or something. But they are "coaching him up"
 
You couldn't be farther from the truth. How about trying to focus on supporting your own team instead of constantly tearing apart others? Just a thought
He’s actually quite accurate. If he wasn’t and Iowa fans focused on their own team, trolls like me would stay away. Instead, they are constantly accusing PSU of cheating, using performance enhancing drugs and calling us pedophiles. It’s all over the place there Turk. I’m not telling you anything you don’t already know...
 
It's very odd, like some of them actually gave birth to the kid or something. But they are "coaching him up"

Are you saying that the best light weight room in the world, cant coach up a kid w 3 world titles, 3 PA state titles, was the #1 P4P wrestler in his class with a debatable position as the best recruit to ever come from PA?

#askingforafriend
#HRcreatedthesetalkingpoints
#crowisbestservedcold
 
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I'm a diehard PSU fan--been one for 50 years. But I don't get why so many PSU fans continue to knock Iowa. I know that some folks on HR make some ridiculous posts (I'm sure they're a minority of Iowa fans). Some PSU fans make some pretty ridiculous ones too (I'm sure I've been guilty). But our PSU wrestlers make their statement on the mats. I don't feel that it serves the wrestling community to return snide posts for snide posts. Iowa has a great program and I for one respect them. I've met a lot of great Iowa fans. I prefer trying to respect other teams and fans. If some act inappropriately, ignore them. Not trying to offend anyone, but just sharing MO.
 
Man. I guess I'll have to reach out. I've known Martin and Joe since they started the whole thing. It's clear the venture capitalists have different ideas from them. Thanks for that very depressing nugget.
Met Joe a few years back. Really nice guy
 
Actually, you're onto something ... some other doc ideas:

Pat Downey, The Immaculate Transfer
Green Sweaters and Ham, Sam Brooks I Am
Fit To Be Tied -- a tale of restored Big Ten glory
She Loves My Big Three Inch ... Binder of Her Favorite Recruits
Gassed Him From Bottom
Topher: Don't Call Me Chris
The Stare
Herky Boys: the Compliance Office crank calls
Will Iowa ever make it out of the first period against Bo?
 
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Will Iowa ever make it out of the first period against Bo?
There is one more year's class to give it a whirl. Unless they get the US Supreme Court to grant PD3 an 8th year of eligibility it will probably be Wilke and i do not see any Bo streaks stopping.
 
I'm a diehard PSU fan--been one for 50 years. But I don't get why so many PSU fans continue to knock Iowa. I know that some folks on HR make some ridiculous posts (I'm sure they're a minority of Iowa fans). Some PSU fans make some pretty ridiculous ones too (I'm sure I've been guilty). But our PSU wrestlers make their statement on the mats. I don't feel that it serves the wrestling community to return snide posts for snide posts. Iowa has a great program and I for one respect them. I've met a lot of great Iowa fans. I prefer trying to respect other teams and fans. If some act inappropriately, ignore them. Not trying to offend anyone, but just sharing MO.

I don't knock the Iowa program. I only openly mock the know nothing, delusional scumbags on Hawkeye Report.
 
and some on HR mock the same type of people here.. see how that works?

The scumbags on HR don't spend their time mocking the posters on BWI. They spend their time accusing Cael Sanderson of paying wrestlers and of lying. They spend their time accusing PSU wrestlers of cheating and performing illegal holds. They spend their time accusing PSU wrestlers of using steroids. They spend their time crying that every documentary wasn't made with the utmost respect paid to Iowa, and that it was not made from the Iowa perspective.

They are delusional scumbags. It's not even close.
 
I saw DeSanto wrestle a couple of dozen matches in high school. I always thought that he wrestled like a crazed chimpanzee, but his style evolved by the time he was a Senior.

At states when he was a sophomore, DeSanto was called for two consecutive defensive pins. How often does that happen? I'm here to tell you that the first pin, against Brown of Franklin Regional was a major ref mistake. First he gave Brown a stalling point with a few seconds left in regulation to force OT. Stalling on Austin DeSanto? Get serious. Brown was returning state champ and the ref was giving him another chance to win, simple as that. Then in OT, DeSanto pulled one of his weird takedowns (he wasn't that into the dumps then). 90% of refs would have awarded DeSanto the takedown and the win. But this ref refused to call it, and then gave Brown the defensive pin. I don't think one person in the crowd agreed with either ref call.

DeSanto was better as a Junior, and waltzed to the finals, only to be hammered by Spencer Lee. No one was surprised.

But in his Senior year, DeSanto appeared to be stronger. And he had fully developed his philosophy of keeping up a manic pace. His additional strength allowed him to fight off Lee's offense better, and his pace gassed Lee out in the 3rd. It was obvious that Lee was just hanging on in the end.

As everyone said, cred goes to both wrestlers, DeSanto for his Vision Quest, Lee for his willingness to put it all on the line in light of his injuries. The result was an all-time classic bout. Who could ask for more? And why do people feel the need to second guess the results? It is what it is. Live with it.

I try not to get on refs too often. It's a tough job and they are human. However, the DeSanto loss to Brown was one of the worst ref-jobs I've ever seen. As you mentioned, he got ripped off twice.

The only one I've seen worse was Mike Rogers of Easton. I think it was his Senior year. There were like 5 awful calls that went against Rogers. It is the only time that I actually questioned if a referee might be racist. It was either that or he quite simply didn't like Mike Rogers.
 
You got that right. People were already having the Spencer Lee vs Cary Kolat argument: who was PA's goat? And who didn't admire DeSanto's quest? That was the talk of the message boards for the two months leading up to states. By the time of the finals, you could cut the anticipation with a knife.

I can only remember one final that was as anticipated, that was Donnie Jones vs. Joey Ecklof, two 2x returning state champs. And everyone thought that Jones was going to be an easy winner. I had seats on the 50 yard line that night.

For anyone interested, here's a link:


I'll never forge the Eckloff-Jones match. Most thought Jones would take it. I was always a big fan of Eckloff's wrestling in high school. That one lived up to the hype too.

I remember the Andrew Alton-Marshall Peppelman match being highly anticipated, but, I think it was a semi-final. I was shocked at how much Peppelman dominated that match. I'm surprised he didn't have a better college career (though he did keep lots of matches close when they didn't need to be.....a la Dean Heil)
 
The scumbags on HR don't spend their time mocking the posters on BWI. They spend their time accusing Cael Sanderson of paying wrestlers and of lying. They spend their time accusing PSU wrestlers of cheating and performing illegal holds. They spend their time accusing PSU wrestlers of using steroids. They spend their time crying that every documentary wasn't made with the utmost respect paid to Iowa, and that it was not made from the Iowa perspective.

They are delusional scumbags. It's not even close.
you spend a lot of your time repeating yourself. You could always just avoid HR if it bothers you that much. It's bold of you to say no one on HR has any wrestling knowledge. Very bold.
 
you spend a lot of your time repeating yourself. You could always just avoid HR if it bothers you that much. It's bold of you to say no one on HR has any wrestling knowledge. Very bold.

If my opinion bothers you, well then it can bother you. It's no sweat off my back. Here's the thing about Hawkeye Report. Whenever PSU smashes Iowa and PSU wins I get to read all of the crybabies on HR whine about how unfair it is mixed with the self loathing regarding the Iowa program. And since I find Iowa fans to be right up there with Michigan fans as the most insufferable in the B1G the schadenfreude is well worth the visits to HR.
 
If my opinion bothers you, well then it can bother you. It's no sweat off my back. Here's the thing about Hawkeye Report. Whenever PSU smashes Iowa and PSU wins I get to read all of the crybabies on HR whine about how unfair it is mixed with the self loathing regarding the Iowa program. And since I find Iowa fans to be right up there with Michigan fans as the most insufferable in the B1G the schadenfreude is well worth the visits to HR.
Whatever floats your boat man. Doesn't bother me. I just find it hypocritical of you to talk that way about HR posters. You're basically describing yourself here. You may not understand that but thats ok. Carry on
 
Whatever floats your boat man. Doesn't bother me. I just find it hypocritical of you to talk that way about HR posters. You're basically describing yourself here. You may not understand that but thats ok. Carry on

The difference between me and HR posters, again, is that I don't attack programs. I don't attack their coaches. I don't accuse their coaches of paying wrestlers. I don't accuse wrestlers of taking steroids. I don't accuse wrestlers of cheating. I also don't cry when Flo releases a documentary because it's not all about PSU and hurts my feel feels because they didn't take the time to make sure everybody knows it was really unfair to Spencer Lee.

If you don't understand the difference between me and the scumbags on Hawkeye report you are either intellectually dishonest or stupid.

What I do, is I attack the morally bankrupt, delusional scumbags on Hawkeye Report.
 
Today on FRL272 the guys announced that there will be another mini documentary like the DeSanto one coming soon. This one on Suriano. Now I'm sure there won't be any info on what really went down with the transfer, but I'm sure that it'll be interesting.
 
Today on FRL272 the guys announced that there will be another mini documentary like the DeSanto one coming soon. This one on Suriano. Now I'm sure there won't be any info on what really went down with the transfer, but I'm sure that it'll be interesting.

Yeah I’m kind of interested in what the story line will be.
 
If you're on your 7th "HR is saying ______" post of the day, you're probably not convincing anyone of anything.
It's been a long time since I read How to Win Friends and Influence People ... but I don't recall the word "scumbags" in it.
 
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