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Franco Harris interview on the FAN "Truth Hasn’t Been Revealed About Paterno’s Role In Sex Scandal"

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Franco gave an interview yesterday on the FAN morning show in response to DeAndre Levy's recent comments about Joe. The FAN hosts have bought into most of the false narratives on the fiasco including the 1970's accusations that Joe was told by an accuser that Sandusky had molested him and that Joe did nothing. Franco did his best to dispell the false narratives, but IMO did not make much headway.

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016...-revealed-about-paternos-role-in-sex-scandal/
 
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Franco gave an interview yesterday on the FAN morning show in response to DeAndre Levy's recent comments about Joe. The FAN hosts have bought into most of the false narratives on the fiasco including the 1970's accusations that Joe was told by an accuser that Sandusky had molested him and that Joe did nothing. Franco did his best to dispell the false narratives, but IMO did not make much headway.

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016...-revealed-about-paternos-role-in-sex-scandal/
The senile old goof Jim Colony actually said "I watched JVP walked out of his house in front of dozens of kids in his front yard & say I could have done more".

Franco should have responded by saying this is exactly what I'm talking about. That statement doesn't have an ounce of truth to it, but their misinformed listeners will take it as being true.
 
Let's be serious. Franco Harris had access to Joe and still has access to Tim Curly.
Hey, I'd like to believe as much as anybody. He only knows what Joe told him and a couple other tidbits that have come to light. Any reasonable person knows there's no guarantee that's all there is.
 
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Sadly, this is indicative of the state of this country today. A majority is not encumbered by or curious for the truth. Everyone is just out there looking for affirmation of their existing world view. In short, my world view IS "the truth" and yours is a lie.

There is so much FAKE, outrageous BS out there posing as fact and the truth, that the average "Joe Sixpack" just latches onto whatever they fancy and they move on to the next "outrage of the day".

The process of critical thinking is dead.
I think the average person nowadays is flooded with information. At the same time, people also often feel like they have to have a firm opinion on everything. However, most people are only inclined to spend a minimal amount of time and effort investigating anything.
I had to endure a 30 minute cab ride in Chicago with some know - nothing cabbie who proceeded to lecture me about the Sandusky scandal after I told him where I was from. Uber next time.
 
Franco gave an interview yesterday on the FAN morning show in response to DeAndre Levy's recent comments about Joe. The FAN hosts have bought into most of the false narratives on the fiasco including the 1970's accusations that Joe was told by an accuser that Sandusky had molested him and that Joe did nothing. Franco did his best to dispell the false narratives, but IMO did not make much headway.

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016...-revealed-about-paternos-role-in-sex-scandal/
Franco could have spoken with the eloquence and reason of Winston Churchill and it would have made little difference. Thanks to the actions, and inactions, of our Board of Trustees, most people have accepted the public narrative and are unlikely to change their minds. Oddly, I find the ones most open to change, and a quest for the truth, are those who believe Joe did nothing wrong.
 
Nor, likely, will any of us, so why not give a man with a lifetime of decency and honor the benefit of the doubt?

Yes, Joe left such a trail of garbage his entire life. All those NCAA violations...those horrible graduation rates...the fact that JVP was all about the $$$$ and never gave back to the university....he did so many things in his life that showed he would cover up for a pedophile....
 
Sadly, this is indicative of the state of this country today. A majority is not encumbered by or curious for the truth. Everyone is just out there looking for affirmation of their existing world view. In short, my world view IS "the truth" and yours is a lie.

There is so much FAKE, outrageous BS out there posing as fact and the truth, that the average "Joe Sixpack" just latches onto whatever they fancy and they move on to the next "outrage of the day".

The process of critical thinking is dead.
You hit the nail squarely on the head.
 
He literally just gave you an example that completely contradicts your assertion.
I didn't think I needed to spell it out -- certainly my error. Regarding the OP talking about 1970's allegations. MM has nothing to do with that. And I contend Franco will never know all there is/isn't to that.
 
Nor, likely, will any of us, so why not give a man with a lifetime of decency and honor the benefit of the doubt?
I'm not picking on Franco. I'm just stating that as it relates to the OP's mention of 1970's allegations Franco is very unlikely to ever know everything. If he contends he does it's blind faith if you elect to believe him.
 
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Sadly, this is indicative of the state of this country today. The majority are not encumbered by or curious for the truth. Everyone is just out there looking for affirmation of their existing world view. In short, my world view IS "the truth" and yours is a lie.

There is so much FAKE, outrageous BS out there posing as fact and the truth, that the average "Joe Sixpack" just latches onto whatever they fancy and they move on to the next "outrage of the day".

The process of critical thinking is dead.
I am very curious of the truth in this case, but I am also a realist. Realistically, I don't see how we are going to learn what the truth is. It happened far too long ago and now we are left to choose who to believe... the alleged victims or the coaches, administrators and the convicted pedophile. It's really not worth the effort because in the end, you will end up with nothing more than an opinion.
 
Yet the jury awarded MM $7 m
I'm not picking on Franco. I'm just stating that as it relates to the OP's mention of 1970's allegations Franco is very unlikely to ever know everything. If he contends he does it's blind faith if you elect to believe him.

I listened. Unfortunately, Franco failed to mention that this man (who has to be at least 50) showed up at a pay window nearly 40 years later and got money. The three idiots on the Fan failed to make the connection. When you are on radio or TV talking about this you just can't leave out any details. Colony said he believed Joe got such a call back in the 70s. I simply couldn't believe how he was pandering to the Pitt audience.

Even Dr. Barron questioned it by releasing a statement.
 
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I'm not picking on Franco. I'm just stating that as it relates to the OP's mention of 1970's allegations Franco is very unlikely to ever know everything. If he contends he does it's blind faith if you elect to believe him.
If you read the article linked in the OP, Franco states outright that he does not know everything.

"'I haven’t heard (the truth) yet and if you find it, please let me know.'"
 
I'm not picking on Franco. I'm just stating that as it relates to the OP's mention of 1970's allegations Franco is very unlikely to ever know everything. If he contends he does it's blind faith if you elect to believe him.
You have no idea what Franco knows, nor do I. The likelihood that he does not know everything does not discredit his opinion based upon what he does know. I have listened, and read, much of what Franco has said over the past 5 years and I have yet to find any substantive error in any of it.
 
I'm not picking on Franco. I'm just stating that as it relates to the OP's mention of 1970's allegations Franco is very unlikely to ever know everything. If he contends he does it's blind faith if you elect to believe him.

https://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threads/just-the-facts-about-joe-paterno.147223/
Fact 15
There are no facts that point to Paterno knowing anything in 1970’s
. Joe Paterno had been questioned in his Grand jury testimony if he had any prior to 2001 knowledge of Jerry Sandusky inappropriate sexual conduct.
Q: Other than the incident that Mike McQueary reported to you, do you know in any way, through rumor, direct knowledge or any other fashion, of any other inappropriate sexual conduct by Jerry Sandusky with young boys?
Mr. Paterno: I do not know of anything else that Jerry would be involved in of that nature, no. I do not know of it.

Even the 1976 accuser’s own lawyer Michael Boni said “The headlines of these stories is Paterno knew of Sandusky’s molestation in the ’70s, ’76 or ’77. I’m unaware of direct, irrefutable evidence that that’s the case. Believe me, I’m the last person to defend the guy, but I am the first person to believe in our justice system. And I think you need more than anecdotal evidence or speculative evidence.”

There are 2 claims of abuse in the 1970’s but neither falls into the way Jerry Sandusky was to have victimized the boys
Sandusky victimizing acts according to testimony from his reported victims:
1. Never victimized a female.
2. Never victimized a minor male in the presence of a minor female.
3. Never overtly victimized a minor male in the presence of other minor males.
4. Never overtly victimized a minor male in the (known) presence of other adults.
5. Never victimized a stranger.
6. Never used violence to force himself on a minor male.
7. Never provided victims with drugs or alcohol in the commission of his crimes.
Yet the 70’s claims and previously publicized claims include one or more of these as allegations by claimants who received settlements from Penn State. According to Sandusky's criminal profile, he was an acquaintance offender who slowly groomed his victims to comply with various levels of sexual abuse. Not all victims would comply to the same levels, therefore there is varying testimony about the actual crimes. However, what was consistent among Sandusky's victims was the manner in which he operated or his modus operandi. He met his victims through The Second Mile, took about one year to assess them and choose his targets, then began the grooming and apparently victimizing of them.
 
Let's be serious. Franco doesn't now, and never will, know the full truth.
Let's be serious......

Knowing the "whole truth"? Whatever that is even supposed to mean.......I don't think ANYONE will EVER feel that they "know the whole truth"

But "knowing the whole truth" is most certainly NOT a prerequisite to KNOWING - for certain - that many things currently "accepted" are pure bullshit

Seriously. :)
 
I am very curious of the truth in this case, but I am also a realist. Realistically, I don't see how we are going to learn what the truth is. It happened far too long ago and now we are left to choose who to believe... the alleged victims or the coaches, administrators and the convicted pedophile. It's really not worth the effort because in the end, you will end up with nothing more than an opinion.

Still here?

Like stepping into dog crap while wearing tennis shoes........those last bits of "GetMyJive" can be a real pain in the ass to clean off
 
The big question is what brainiac at the BoT thought it would be a good idea to pay these claims without vetting them? THAT guy should be lined up, shot, propped up and shot again.

OR......UNANIMOUSLY ELECTED AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD

Thank You, A9
.

:)
 
Let's be serious......

Knowing the "whole truth"? Whatever that is even supposed to mean.......I don't think ANYONE will EVER feel that they "know the whole truth"

But "knowing the whole truth" is most certainly NOT a prerequisite to KNOWING - for certain - that many things currently "accepted" are pure bullshit

Seriously. :)
I agree.
 
Franco gave an interview yesterday on the FAN morning show in response to DeAndre Levy's recent comments about Joe. The FAN hosts have bought into most of the false narratives on the fiasco including the 1970's accusations that Joe was told by an accuser that Sandusky had molested him and that Joe did nothing. Franco did his best to dispell the false narratives, but IMO did not make much headway.

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016...-revealed-about-paternos-role-in-sex-scandal/
Let me tell you something. I have an Uncle - Pennsylvania native - who had a successful Law practice in Southern California for 30+ years and is now retired. He's an extremely well educated Man who also played college football. (His claim to fame was playing against the #1 ranked Bud Wilkinson Sooners at the time although his Team lost). It wasn't until about a year ago that I had the opportunity to sit down and get his impressions of Penn State and Joe. His first response was of course Joe knew. He's Joe Paterno. Joe Paterno knew everyting that went on at Penn State. Joe himself said he should have done more. When I mentioned that statement was prefaced "with the benefit of hindsight", he couldn't recall. His entire impression was formed on the basis of Media spoon-fed information. Sadly, there's not a thing we can do about it.
 
If you read the article linked in the OP, Franco states outright that he does not know everything.

"'I haven’t heard (the truth) yet and if you find it, please let me know.'"
So we're all in agreement. And I didn't insult Franco. And posters that only accept absolutes now have this content in the thread. We all win.
 
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I think the average person nowadays is flooded with information. At the same time, people also often feel like they have to have a firm opinion on everything. However, most people are only inclined to spend a minimal amount of time and effort investigating anything.
I had to endure a 30 minute cab ride in Chicago with some know - nothing cabbie who proceeded to lecture me about the Sandusky scandal after I told him where I was from. Uber next time.

And there in lies the problem. Yes they are "flooded with information" problem is about 10% are flay out lying to either get web hits or make a name for themselves, 60% just have the facts wrong, 20% have the facts but have and agenda (and maybe that number should be higher) and a mere 10% have the facts correct and are just trying to get the story out without out any spin.
 
And there in lies the problem. Yes they are "flooded with information" problem is about 10% are flay out lying to either get web hits or make a name for themselves, 60% just have the facts wrong, 20% have the facts but have and agenda (and maybe that number should be higher) and a mere 10% have the facts correct and are just trying to get the story out without out any spin.
And are not held accountable for one bit of it.
 
And are not held accountable for one bit of it.
I had a discussion today with very intelligent Notre Dame fan about yesterdays events and his take was if Brian Kelly didn't know why should they be punished. I told him if that was his reasoning I would think a man with Joe Paterno's background definitely earned the benefit of doubt and he acted like a complete idiot. Strike the part about being intelligent
 
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