Nonsense. James Franklin is the guy.
Franklin Is Not The Guy
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As much it pains me to say it, he is a good coach and excellent recruiter. Wish we had someone like him.
Disagree. CJF is not interested in one year wonders. His plan is to built a program that challenges every year and I believe is doing it. It may take 2 to 3 more years but are going in the right direction. Trust the process.
Franklin is exactly the kind of Coach you need in today's college football landscape. You need somebody who is going to be the CEO of the program, not an offensive or defensive specialist or even just a recruiter. Running a program these days means so much more... from branding to recruiting to scheming x's and o's. There is nobody that works harder than Franklin and he is in the process of building not just this team but a program that will be sustainable for many years to come. He will make sure he has the right people in place to execute his vision and if they are not the right people, he will replace them. Like I said nobody works harder then CJF so I wouldn't lose sleep
PSU has their coach and he will be an all time great. Character matters, building character matters more. Success matters, success with honor matters more. Academic achievement matters. Making academic achievement top priority matters more. There are ~115 other P5 programs that wish they had what PSU has.
The Tradition Continues...
The Tradition Continues...
This is absolutely true. Very hard worker. If you listen to his press conference he is saying all the things we are. Trust him as a man and less importantly as a coach.
The fact that Duzzy is NOT on the hot seat shows just how low expectations have fallen in the slums of Oakland.....
Some call it the post of the year, I call it ignorant. Franklin has produced a highly rated, exciting, competitive team. 3 point loss to USC in the best game any of us will ever see, 1 point loss to OSU in another exciting clash and then the rain bowl at MSU, 3 points. These were all ranked teams. Some people just have to complain, do you want to go back to the final Paterno years?
I really think it's just sad that we have come to accept such results not just with begrudging acceptance but with seeming joy. I just apparently have higher standards for Nittany Lion football than some of you do. Hopefully Franklin and his staff have the same that I do.
Really? We've won one major bowl since 2000. This isn't the 80's anymore. We are in the process of trying to rebuild the program back to that point. This is all part of the process.
This is year 4 for Franklin. I always have said you need to give a college coach ~ 4 years to see if there has been improvement. I think we all agree there has been improvement. However, some of the Xs and Os and time management have not improved. The defense got shredded two straight weeks. I hate when Franklin says we need to improve...and then don't. However next year is the year if he wants to win. Our home schedule is loaded and we really only have one tough road game (@ Michigan). We also have a senior qb, experience OL, and strong skill players. The DL should be slightly better as well. Is he the guy? Ask me next year.
Wow, do people have short memories.
We haven't been operating at a super-high level for a very long time.
Paterno let the program fall off a cliff after the 1990s. 2003-04 was the lowest point for PSU football since the early 1930s, the early years of Bob Higgins.
Paterno did an amazing job of bouncing back from that between 2005 and 2009, but never got the program quite back to where it was. And the program started sliding again after 2009. This is all independent of the sanctions.
The program has never gotten back to where it was 20-25 years ago.
This post doesn't even deserve a response...
Thanks for stopping by; now, goodbye, don't let the door hit you kin the a$$ on the way out.
We just won the Big Ten and finished #7 overall last year. We have the #4 ranked recruiting class for 2018. He just signed a 5 year contract extension. We don't need to wait for your evaluation "next year".
We just won the Big Ten and finished #7 overall last year. We have the #4 ranked recruiting class for 2018. He just signed a 5 year contract extension. We don't need to wait for your evaluation "next year".
A coach should be evaluated on a constant basis. Franklin's 1st two years were not great, last year was amazing, and this year we haven't done anything unexpected. We lost 2 games which a lot of people predicted. So this year he has met expectations...not blown them away. In 4 years the biggest improvement was from year 2 to 3. If he can't improve us a little bit next year then what? Are we going to be happy with 10 wins and consistently being good but not great?
Penn State hasn't had back to back 10 win seasons since 08 - 09. If you recruit Top Ten classes and consistently hover around 10 win seasons or better, that is doing an outstanding job and something every program would take outside of Alabama and Ohio State. The first two seasons we had reduced scholarship numbers and poor talent in the upperclasses due to the sanctions.
It always amuses me that the exact same people who claimed Penn State would be terrible for a decade or more due to the impact of the sanctions now claim that those same sanctions are an "excuse". Intellectually dishonest morons.
When did I say the sanctions had anything to do with this? I am saying to be a great coach you have to be above expectations more so than not. If Championships aren't your standard then you have no clue what you are talking about. We were ranked 2 and then 7 with a legitimate shot at the playoff. The team blew it. 9-10 wins is what most people expected. So Franklin has had 2 down years, 1 great year, 1 average year. Next year he'll have a senior QB, a experienced OL, and a plethora of skill players (no Barkley but still). If our line sucks again next year its a major problem.
No, I'm saying that sanctions were the major factor in the 7-6 seasons. And no team but Alabama and Ohio State (and maybe Clemson now) has a "Championship or bust" mentality. It isn't realistic. If you recruit at a high level and string together 10 win seasons, you put yourself in the rare category of teams that could win it in any season if things come together right, you get a little luck. Penn State is on the right path to be a consistent Top Ten team. Franklin will be our coach and isn't going anywhere. Sucks for you.
And if a 10 win season is "an average year", Pitt has been average once in 35 seasons.
When did I say I don't want Franklin to be the coach? Suck for me? I want PSU to win a championship. Is Franklin the right guy? After last year I thought maybe. After Michigan I thought maybe. As of today I still think maybe. However, next year is the key. Obviously, teams have studied our film and been able to execute against us. This will be the 4th year of very good recruits coming in under Franklin. We will have a top 5 recruiting class, which should lead to a top 5 ranking. Mix that in with our other recruits and we should be a perennial top 10 team.
It doesn't matter what you think. He signed an extension and is "the guy" for the foreseeable future.
Penn State is currently ranked #13 and will still likely finish in the top ten. Posts like this saying that Franklin can’t win it all are premature and ridiculous.
Look at the composite recruitIng rankings among the upperclassmen and tell me how we are underachieving on the field?
5th year players = 33
4th year players = 25
3rd year players = 15
Yet somehow we are supposed to win every single game when our upper classes had an average composite recruiting ranking of 24th in the country?
Some folks need to get a clue.
Look at the composite recruitIng rankings among the upperclassmen and tell me how we are underachieving on the field?
5th year players = 33
4th year players = 25
3rd year players = 15
Yet somehow we are supposed to win every single game when our upper classes had an average composite recruiting ranking of 24th in the country?
Some folks need to get a clue.
That's the buyout for him to leave. We'd owe him all of the contract if, in some Pitt fan's fantasy, Penn State would let him go.
He's a college coach, he turned down NFL head coaching interviews to take this job, he was born and raised in PA, he dreamed of playing for Penn State, he is surrounded by a coaching staff with many/most of them being from PA. He isn't going anywhere.
If you're ever 1/10 the fan of the people you're criticizing (you won't ever be) you'll be doing well for yourself.
nitpride4eva is uncannily similar in delivery and sentiment to "Lyin'revival."
nitpride4eva = Lionrevival?
nitpride4eva = Lionrevival?
J. Franklin is going nowhere. The guy is undoubtedly all in to making Penn State a national powerhouse (again). Next year's recruiting class is outstanding and the year after that it'll get even better. To suggest getting rid of this guy because he lost a couple of away games by less than 4 points combined is borderline insane.
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Are we really that confident that next years team is going to far outstrip this year's? We had a generational talent in Saquon and will come away with 0 playoff appearances to show for it.
I don't give a shit about your standards. Keep them to yourself.....you know like a alot of other things.
Your efforts to set up these (no doubt steadily escalating) binary pass/fail tests for Franklin are transparent and weak. Elite recruiting, continued program building, exciting showcases like the White Out, exploding season ticket sales, appearing in 3 of the top 8 most watched games of the season, etc etc etc. Exciting times for the program and fanbase despite your concern-trolling.
It is possible Penn State could take a step back next year to 8/9 wins which would be one of the best seasons in 35 years for Pitt
2019 and forward are setting up to be really really good
I'm sure you think Narduzzi bringing in the
65th
29th
38th
57th
Recruiting classes has a Title right around the corner
Please don’t be stupid. Apply your four-year schedule anywhere else you want, but not with Franklin. Look at what he had to start with. Besides, he won the freaking b1g in his third season, well ahead of what was expected.
Oh, and Franklin doesn’t need your approval next year or any other year.
