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Football GAME THREAD: Penn State vs. Michigan State

No excuses, guys.

That 4th down and long for the clinching Spartan TD in the 4th quarter is the hallmark of Franklin's tenure.

I'm not saying it's his fault. I don't know whose fault it is. But it never seems to end.

Oh well, at least we beat Maryland and Rutgers.
Well maybe you ought to blame #3, the guy who didn’t make the play for starters.
 
After last year’s debacle I didn’t think it could get worse, but this team lacks focus and a killer instinct in games that matter. What a horrendous performance today. Why is every 4th down call such a stupid call? This coaching staff plain sucks at getting the most out of the team
Well the coaching staff didn’t miss a makeable FG and PAT in a 3 point loss or fumble twice in the last 10 minutes of the game. But let the geniuses on here keep blaming Franklin and the coaching staff for that.
 
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Well the coaching staff didn’t miss a makeable FG and PAT in a 3 point loss or fumble twice in the last 10 minutes of the game. But let the geniuses on here keep blaming Franklin and the coaching staff for that.
You are what your record says you are.
 
Insanity—- why the hell would we try to run the ball most of second half with the worst O line in PSU history and worst running backs in PSU history while we have Dotson going against the worst pass defense in college football this year?? Why would we not blitz on the key 4th down?? Pry, Yurcich/Franklin, offense, defense and special teams all lost this game— no pride. Time for some players to leave and bring in Allar and Singleton and have freshmen and sophomores on Oline. Clean the house!!!
 
Well the coaching staff didn’t miss a makeable FG and PAT in a 3 point loss or fumble twice in the last 10 minutes of the game. But let the geniuses on here keep blaming Franklin and the coaching staff for that.
Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser. Sorry bud, but 8-10 in B1G play gets you fired at every single blue blood program with the exception of 1. Penn State. WPS!
 
Well the coaching staff didn’t miss a makeable FG and PAT in a 3 point loss or fumble twice in the last 10 minutes of the game. But let the geniuses on here keep blaming Franklin and the coaching staff for that.

The thing is, I'm not even blaming Franklin. I don't know who to blame. All I know is we keep finding ways to give up big plays and lose big games in the 4th quarter.

Happened again today...and it's been happening for years now.
 
Franklin is what he is. A great recruiter and a suck a$$ coach. There really isn’t a better coach on the horizon right now to hire. My problem is why do you tie ourselves to this for 10 years. Absolutely mind boggling.
 
When taken over a reasonable period, I agree with that.

We are, right now, about the third or maybe second best program in the Big 10.

Really, pretty simple.
Lmao. We're 8-10 in B1G play over the last two seasons. What formula are you using to say we are 2nd or 3rd in the conference?
 
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Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser. Sorry bud, but 8-10 in B1G play gets you fired at every single blue blood program with the exception of 1. Penn State. WPS!
If you want to see a loser look in the freaking mirror. There has been two consistent themes this season: players failing to make key plays in crunch to IME and knuckleheads blaming those failures on the coaches. How many critical FGs has Stout missed this year? A game losing 47 yard TD to a TE on a crossing pattern thrown 5 yards beyond the LOS against Michigan. A TD on 4th and 15. 2 fumbles in the last 10 minutes. Stout leaving 4 points on the board today in a 3 point loss. Coaches coach and players have to execute and make plays. Was not surprised at all that Pry’s defense stunk out the joint today.
 
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This whole offense needs a complete reboot. The blocking sucks, the QB play is dated, and the running game is non existent. I don’t care if you get another OC, but soon I’m gonna stop watching this pitiful scheme of football. It makes me sick to my stomach when I reflect on this whiff of a season.
 
I have refrained from getting involved in this debate but those who have defended Franklin need to stop. He may be a good guy and a great recruiter but he simply cannot coach on game day and apparently can’t hire others that can keep him out of his own way. There is no righteous universe where he is worth the contract he just got. Rip away at me , put me on ignore but I am a long time poster who has been hoping for the best and I am not a flamer. If you can’t see what’s going on right now you simply don’t want to.
Franklin's contribution is signaling with his finger for the 1 point conversion! I too dont see the value of his contract, nor his near extortion mid season as the team folds to obtain the larger longer contract. Disgusting really.
 
Franklin seems to be too much of a players coach and not someone who's going to get in their ass and hold them accountable. Our guys are snuggled up on the sideline in coats and sitting on the bench- meanwhile sparty is firing each other up = worried about getting a w and shutting down our pass o.

Where does that fire come from? Ideally it comes from within - but when it doesnt its up to the coach to help them out.

We may get lucky and out recruit everyone to keep us in contention but we will never be great without a great coach or great OC and DC.

Not sure why, as a bad running team against the worst pass defense we continue to try and run it???
 
If you want to see a loser look in the freaking mirror. There has been two consistent themes this season: players failing to make key plays in crunch to IME and knuckleheads blaming those failures on the coaches. How many critical FGs has Stout missed this year? A game losing 47 yard TD to a TE on a crossing pattern thrown 5 yards beyond the LOS against Michigan. A TD on 4th and 15. 2 fumbles in the last 10 minutes. Stout leaving 4 points on the board today in a 3 point loss. Coaches coach and players have to execute and make plays. Was not surprised at all that Pry’s defense stunk out the joint today.
8-10. Have a nice winter.
 
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Don’t shoot the messenger but the entire team sitting on benches heated with their legs covered with capes. Paterno would have gone crazy
Yeah, trying the tough guy act worked so well in that Iowa game.

Very very few truly satisfying seasons since ‘96.
 
Yeah, trying the tough guy act worked so well in that Iowa game.

Very very few truly satisfying seasons since ‘96.
I not saying the tough guy but maybe better is support. I my life time I never thought I would see PSU football players acting like cold women
 
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If you want to see a loser look in the freaking mirror. There has been two consistent themes this season: players failing to make key plays in crunch to IME and knuckleheads blaming those failures on the coaches. How many critical FGs has Stout missed this year? A game losing 47 yard TD to a TE on a crossing pattern thrown 5 yards beyond the LOS against Michigan. A TD on 4th and 15. 2 fumbles in the last 10 minutes. Stout leaving 4 points on the board today in a 3 point loss. Coaches coach and players have to execute and make plays. Was not surprised at all that Pry’s defense stunk out the joint today.
The buck stops where in your world ?
 
The thing is, I'm not even blaming Franklin. I don't know who to blame. All I know is we keep finding ways to give up big plays and lose big games in the 4th quarter.

Happened again today...and it's been happening for years now.
We are soft
 
Just a reminder that Jim Harbaugh, who this board loves to mock, took a pay cut and will have his team in the playoff.

while James Franklin takes a $75 million extension while going 11-10 over 2 years
 
So 7-6, 7-6, 4-5, and 7-5 four out of your 8 years gets a 10 year contract for 80 mill and your best year you lose three games with Barkley, Goodwin, Gesicki, Hamilton and McScorly. Going to be a long ten years.
 
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