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Give me your prediction: PSU-Iowa

Good for you ... at least you have some more background knowledge for the football conversations. I wonder about connor, lazydave or rmem. If they want to rip me or my team, fine, but have some kind of information to backup your stance, hence the question about watching other teams.

I'm not saying if you watched Iowa games you would necessarily change your minds about Petras, even our own fans rip him way more than he deserves at times LOL, however you would at least have a more data to support your claim.

It is the nature of the QB position ... As someone else said, PSU fans are ripping Clifford too ... It's damn hard to be a QB in the Big 10. It's easy for us knuckle heads on a message board to rip them. I didn't mean to disrespect Clifford (if you guys took exception to it), I just think he has some flaws (like Petras and every QB in this league for that matter) and not sure he will have enough pure passing skill to take you guys over the top on Saturday. If I'm wrong I'll admit it on Saturday night.
If you’re going to call me out by name, look at what I’ve said about your football team. Not much. I will care about the Iowa football team for exactly one game this year, on this Saturday night. After that they will be as irrelevant to me as they always have been.
 
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I can totally get on board with this take SR108. Good post. Iowa has 1 95 yard drive that took over 8 minutes, but it wasn't against the PSU defense ;-).

The Iowa OL is a work in progress as they have been flipping guys in and out all season so far trying to get the right combination (one of our best guards - Kyler Schott #64 - is coming off injury and is now getting close to 100%, other freshman and sophomores are being shuffled in and out). This can account for some of the inconsistency in the run game. It will be a big test to see how far they have progressed this Saturday.

I like Iowa because of these 3 things:

1) Home field advantage - It is huge this year due to the C19 layoff. The crowds just seem even more engaged and raucous, though Kinnick has really been that way anyway, but it may even be more so this year. Which tough environment has Clifford been in so far? How will he react? We'll see ...

2) Iowa's Special Teams. This is a top 3 unit overall in the country. Kick-off, Kick-return, punt, punt-return, FG unit are all top notch. There will be some big plays in the STs game and Iowa has the advantage.

3) Iowa's Defense. The very young DL (save VanValkenburg) has been playing a high level. They rotate 8 guys to stay fresh up front. The back 7 could be the best Iowa has had in a very long time. They don't give up many chunk plays so Clifford will need to be patient. I watched the whole Wisconsin vs PSU game and there were a couple of breakdowns in the Wisconsin secondary which gave PSU their scoring strikes. Great job on exploiting that, but that won't likely happen vs Iowa. We'll see ...

This should go down to the wire unless Clifford and the PSU offense get impatient, or the PSU special teams have an off day. I'll have a prediction later in the week.
Our special teams have been good too. Stout's KOs and punts are great. I'm not sure what to think about FGs. We haven't broke off a big PR but there is potential.

I expect Iowa to do like Indiana and try to take away explosive plays. I agree that Clifford will have to be patient and take the underneath stuff.

I think this game will be won or lost on turnovers.
 
If PSU doesn’t turn the ball over I could see an Iowa loss. Our offense has been a little better recently but still isn’t good at long sustaining drives. Luckily the defense has gifted them a lot of short fields and has a capitalized.

Team stats look very identical. Home field should be good for a couple points. I picked 27-17 hawks but I also believe PSU will lead much of the first half. Clifford throws a pick and a sack and fumble in Q3 are the difference.
 
If you’re going to call me out by name, look at what I’ve said about your football team. Not much. I will care about the Iowa football team for exactly one game this year, on this Saturday night. After that they will be as irrelevant to me as they always have been.
At least you man up and admit you don't know sh*t about our football team (no surprise) ... and you called me arrogant LOL. Take care connor.
 
At least you man up and admit you don't know sh*t about our football team (no surprise) ... and you called me arrogant LOL. Take care connor.
Wow, you’re an insufferable jackass and further cementing my opinion of Iowans. Honestly, how old are you?
 
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Good for you ... at least you have some more background knowledge for the football conversations. I wonder about connor, lazydave or rmem. If they want to rip me or my team, fine, but have some kind of information to backup your stance, hence the question about watching other teams.

I'm not saying if you watched Iowa games you would necessarily change your minds about Petras, even our own fans rip him way more than he deserves at times LOL, however you would at least have a more data to support your claim.

It is the nature of the QB position ... As someone else said, PSU fans are ripping Clifford too ... It's damn hard to be a QB in the Big 10. It's easy for us knuckle heads on a message board to rip them. I didn't mean to disrespect Clifford (if you guys took exception to it), I just think he has some flaws (like Petras and every QB in this league for that matter) and not sure he will have enough pure passing skill to take you guys over the top on Saturday. If I'm wrong I'll admit it on Saturday night.

I'm being far more generous than the average poster to the Hawkeyes. I have watched parts of every game save for Kent State. I see a team that has jumped all over the 3 better teams on the schedule. Yes, it is schemed and quality defense plays by really good to great players, but it's been highly beneficial to your offense. That's not talking down, it's just reality.

Your QB threw for 250 against Indiana and Iowa State combined. Was that by design? I'm thinking not.

But hey, y'all might turn us over a bunch and the game get away from us. It's a definite possibility.
 
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So, this is fun and all, but getting back to the topic:

66-65 good guys.
However, in all fairness, I’m well into the Costco box wine this evening……
 
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PSU 24-20 or IA 20-17. Its too close to call. It just depends on which team gets the key play in the 4th qtr.
 
Your QB threw for 250 against Indiana and Iowa State combined. Was that by design? I'm thinking not.
It was kinda by design since Iowa was in control of the games early (Indiana sooner than ISU). Defense and STs for Iowa were good enough for those games (the O just couldn't screw it up, so very conservative play calling ensued).

Listen, I know Petras doesn't put fear into any opposing teams fan bases ... I get it. He doesn't have very good conventional offensive stats. I also understand he needs to continue to improve and do more in order for Iowa to win the Big 10 (and beat PSU). Believe it or not he has been on track starting last year and into this year ... this will be his biggest test to date IMO.

Thanks for the interesting replies to all those who like to talk CFB, it is appreciated. You guys have some very knowledgable fans and some interesting opinions. Take care!
 
I know the IU game ended less than 12 hours ago but it’s time to move on to one of the biggest games of the year.

Listened to some of the PSU media talking about Iowa and PSU and they seem to think low scorIng game with PSU having a bit of an edge.

PSU-17
Iowa-13

i say the defense either score or sets up a short scoring drive vs The Hawks
This game depends on which Sean Clifford shows up and if the OL/TEs block for the running game.
 
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I'm in my mid 50's is that good enough? I have a couple kids in college ... I'll stop replying to you if you stop replying to me (if you don't want to actually talk about the game), is that cool? If I make it out to PSU sometime (hoping to do it perhaps the next time we are scheduled) I'll buy you a beer. I'm actually pretty charming in person ;-)
 
I'm in my mid 50's is that good enough? I have a couple kids in college ... I'll stop replying to you if you stop replying to me (if you don't want to actually talk about the game), is that cool? If I make it out to PSU sometime (hoping to do it perhaps the next time we are scheduled) I'll buy you a beer. I'm actually pretty charming in person ;-)
I don’t care if you reply, it doesn’t bother me. I do find it odd to be on other team’s sites talking up your team but to each their own.
If you go to Penn State there is next to zero chance of catching me there. I haven’t been to a game since the mid-90s. I did have a thought to go to the game this Saturday since my wife and two youngest are flying to MN to see her parents but I decided I would enjoy having the house to myself more than going to the game. There was no reason to have thought this would be a 3 vs. 4 game when the tickets were purchased. Are you attending?
 
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I'm being far more generous than the average poster to the Hawkeyes. I have watched parts of every game save for Kent State. I see a team that has jumped all over the 3 better teams on the schedule. Yes, it is schemed and quality defense plays by really good to great players, but it's been highly beneficial to your offense. That's not talking down, it's just reality.

Your QB threw for 250 against Indiana and Iowa State combined. Was that by design? I'm thinking not.

But hey, y'all might turn us over a bunch and the game get away from us. It's a definite possibility.

The Squakeyes average of only 3.4 yards per rushing attempt, second worst in the Conference (and worse than PSU's 3.9 ypc) is by design as well, don't you know? Actually, it's all explained by the fact that the mighty Squakeye defense "turns over" 100% of opponent drives in their own territory and only has to go 40 yards on their drives LMFAO???? (I learned this on the "b1g assholes" network - it might not be apparent to you what one, has to do with the other [even ignoring the utter bullshit-iness of the claim], but that's because you're not an unbiased "traditional b1g" football genius, you're just a fan of a team that's lucky the b1g cesspool is "letting them" even play.
 
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Good lord that was pass interference and it will get called every time.

I think the game will be close but bitching about officiating before a game has even started is kind of weird. It might imply you already have a bias.
Yeah, offensive PI.

Uh… that game happened many years ago.
 
That play is defensive pass interference 100/100, except if you’re a Penn State fan with a persecution complex. The defender went over the offensive players back and through him before the ball got there. End of discussion

Wrong, the DB went up to catch a ball, and the WR ran right into him. Watch it without your bias. End of discussion.
 
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We shall see. Iowa was younger last year. Still a young team. Should be a good one Saturday at Kinnick Stadium.



Bye bye B1G two.

Don't see Ohio State having much of an issue with Maryland, but Michigan at Nebraska could get interesting.
Agree regarding Nebraska. They may have finally put it all together and could give Michigan a game.
 
Wrong, the DB went up to catch a ball, and the WR ran right into him. Watch it without your bias. End of discussion.

Not sure what was called - or even watched video, but assuming your description is correct, and the offensive player's contract is a result of offensive player making a play on the ball, it's actually "no penalty", not Offensive Interference (it isn't Defensive Interference either though if the offensive player initiates contact before ball arrives in an attempt to make a play on the ball). The rule regarding contact before the ball arriving is different for the Offensive and Defensive player. The Defender is never allowed to go through the Offensive player (i.e., early contact before ball has arrived) regardless if he is making a play on ball or not - IOW, strict prohibition on defender from making early meaningful contact with receiver prior to ball arriving. There is no such prohibition on Offensive Player and, in fact, the Offensive Player always has a right to make a play on the ball regardless if it results in early contact with defender or not (it isn't Defensive PI however if the early contact is a result of the offensive player's actions in making a play for the ball.). The only time an Offensive Player's early contact is a penalty is if they are done to make themselves, or another offensive player, more open and are not a result of a legitimate play for the ball (i.e., offensive player attempting to access the ball which an offensive player is ALWAYS entitled to do regardless if the attempt to access the ball causes contact with defender before ball is actually there.).
 
Not sure what was called - or even watched video, but assuming your description is correct, and the offensive player's contract is a result of offensive player making a play on the ball, it's actually "no penalty", not Offensive Interference (it isn't Defensive Interference either though if the offensive player initiates contact before ball arrives in an attempt to make a play on the ball). The rule regarding contact before the ball arriving is different for the Offensive and Defensive player. The Defender is never allowed to go through the Offensive player (i.e., early contact before ball has arrived) regardless if he is making a play on ball or not - IOW, strict prohibition on defender from making early meaningful contact with receiver prior to ball arriving. There is no such prohibition on Offensive Player and, in fact, the Offensive Player always has a right to make a play on the ball regardless if it results in early contact with defender or not (it isn't Defensive PI however if the early contact is a result of the offensive player's actions in making a play for the ball.). The only time an Offensive Player's early contact is a penalty is if they are done to make themselves, or another offensive player, more open and are not a result of a legitimate play for the ball (i.e., offensive player attempting to access the ball which an offensive player is ALWAYS entitled to do regardless if the attempt to access the ball causes contact with defender before ball is actually there.).

The receiver was moving downfield with a pass over the shoulder. The defender was moving towards the line of scrimmage tracking the ball. The receiver went up for the ball and, before the ball arrived the defender went through the receiver to make a play on the ball. That is textbook defensive pass interference. You can’t go through the receiver to get to the ball before the ball arrives.

That’s the end of the discussion.
 
Iowa wins a close one, and it’s higher scoring than people are expecting.
You could make an argument that Clifford is indeed the main reason we are 5-0, (along with some great timely defensive play), It certainly isn’t our run game. The thing Clifford is doing this year that has been effective is when he is pressed he uses his feet to buy time with his eyes downfield looking for and often finding an open receiver.
He is not Tom Brady by any means but he has been poised, efficient and has not been careless throwing into coverage except for one instance.
 
I don’t care if you reply, it doesn’t bother me. I do find it odd to be on other team’s sites talking up your team but to each their own.
If you go to Penn State there is next to zero chance of catching me there. I haven’t been to a game since the mid-90s. I did have a thought to go to the game this Saturday since my wife and two youngest are flying to MN to see her parents but I decided I would enjoy having the house to myself more than going to the game. There was no reason to have thought this would be a 3 vs. 4 game when the tickets were purchased. Are you attending?
No, I won't be able to make anything during the regular season as my wife is going through a health situation so I need to stick around home and not go to big events for a bit. I'm hoping if they make Indy I can perhaps go to that. I used to attend at least 1-3 games per year, but my last game was 2019 vs ISU in Ames.

It will be a madhouse in IC this weekend. Would have been fun.

Ok, take care! I truly don't mean to act like an a-hole on these boards but I won't back down from any kind of argument or debate and I do love to talk CFB so it goes ... I'm a bit over passionate for my Hawks but there are worse things. I save my Sundays for golf in the fall but Saturdays are all about CFB!
 
I’m really worried that is the game where inconsistency in our FG kicking bites us in the ass. Sure, the run game sucks and we have to stop relying on the deep ball. But we lose a close one due to a couple of missed FG opportunities. I sure hope I’m wrong.
 
You could make an argument that Clifford is indeed the main reason we are 5-0, (along with some great timely defensive play), It certainly isn’t our run game. The thing Clifford is doing this year that has been effective is when he is pressed he uses his feet to buy time with his eyes downfield looking for and often finding an open receiver.
He is not Tom Brady by any means but he has been poised, efficient and has not been careless throwing into coverage except for one instance.
Yes, I do agree with this, as he buys time with his feet when the pocket is compromised or if they roll him out. He doesn't just run, he looks to throw. I'm more concerned with this than him dropping back and picking us apart marching down the field. I'm not as concerned with any designed play to go over the top of our defense either, this secondary is very disciplined and veteran, they normally won't give that up (but of course, it is still possible, especially with Dotson).
 
No, I won't be able to make anything during the regular season as my wife is going through a health situation so I need to stick around home and not go to big events for a bit. I'm hoping if they make Indy I can perhaps go to that. I used to attend at least 1-3 games per year, but my last game was 2019 vs ISU in Ames.

It will be a madhouse in IC this weekend. Would have been fun.

Ok, take care! I truly don't mean to act like an a-hole on these boards but I won't back down from any kind of argument or debate and I do love to talk CFB so it goes ... I'm a bit over passionate for my Hawks but there are worse things. I save my Sundays for golf in the fall but Saturdays are all about CFB!
Good luck to your wife with whatever it is she’s dealing with. I can obviously sense the passion you have for your team. No problem having that passion. I wouldn’t be so forceful on another team’s board (nor would I be there at all) but I’m not you.
I’ll be driving through Iowa at Christmas. Please leave a beer out for me and I’ll pick it up on my route.
 
Good luck to your wife with whatever it is she’s dealing with. I can obviously sense the passion you have for your team. No problem having that passion. I wouldn’t be so forceful on another team’s board (nor would I be there at all) but I’m not you.
I’ll be driving through Iowa at Christmas. Please leave a beer out for me and I’ll pick it up on my route.
Thanks, appreciate that ... Ha, I'm in MN but still might be able to leave that beer out in the snow somewhere ;-). Safe travels ... would love to be playing PSU 2x this year ;-)
 
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On the bottom, you have the CSU defender (Group of 5) a few steps late. The top shows a Maryland (probably 2nd tier Big Ten East) defender arriving just a step late. The next picture will be a Penn State defender batting the pass away at the last second.

Iowa when favored vs a ranked opponent under Kirk Ferentz:
10-3 SU & 10-3 ATS [7/6 O/U]
Avg for: 31
Avg opp: 14

Maybe it is Iowa's time to shine.

 
Not sure what was called - or even watched video, but assuming your description is correct, and the offensive player's contract is a result of offensive player making a play on the ball, it's actually "no penalty", not Offensive Interference (it isn't Defensive Interference either though if the offensive player initiates contact before ball arrives in an attempt to make a play on the ball). The rule regarding contact before the ball arriving is different for the Offensive and Defensive player. The Defender is never allowed to go through the Offensive player (i.e., early contact before ball has arrived) regardless if he is making a play on ball or not - IOW, strict prohibition on defender from making early meaningful contact with receiver prior to ball arriving. There is no such prohibition on Offensive Player and, in fact, the Offensive Player always has a right to make a play on the ball regardless if it results in early contact with defender or not (it isn't Defensive PI however if the early contact is a result of the offensive player's actions in making a play for the ball.). The only time an Offensive Player's early contact is a penalty is if they are done to make themselves, or another offensive player, more open and are not a result of a legitimate play for the ball (i.e., offensive player attempting to access the ball which an offensive player is ALWAYS entitled to do regardless if the attempt to access the ball causes contact with defender before ball is actually there.).

Thanks for your input. I did say it was somewhere from defensive PI to a no call in post #130. The call was clearly wrong, regardless of what it should have been. I don't think the ball was catchable for the double covered receiver, and the defender was the only one who could make a play on it. So one could argue that the receiver was simply trying to break up the interception when he initiated contact with the defender, since it never looks like he makes a play on the ball. (It especially suspicious the way he receiver gets up over acting for a flag.) Either way, this garbage call cost PSU the game and a perfect season.

The receiver was moving downfield with a pass over the shoulder. The defender was moving towards the line of scrimmage tracking the ball. The receiver went up for the ball and, before the ball arrived the defender went through the receiver to make a play on the ball. That is textbook defensive pass interference. You can’t go through the receiver to get to the ball before the ball arrives.

That’s the end of the discussion.

You need to watch it again. The defender went up for the ball, the receiver went through the defender. It's impossible for the jumping defender to "go through" the running receiver. The defender is allowed to make a play on the ball. I guess in your reality the defender, even if he has the best chance to catch the ball, simply needs to stand there and let it sail over the receivers head? (That's a rhetorical question)

That's the real end of the discussion.
 
What a jackass. Why are you here?
My opinion has nothing to do with the Iowa fan base, it has to do with my many, many experiences in Iowa. I have been in (and more enjoyably just passing through) Iowa dozens of times over the last 23 years. I know many people from Iowa. My experiences dealing with Iowans has been that there is a level of arrogance that is unbearable. Thanks for the lecture though, you’ve changed my opinion.
My daughter lives in Iowa, I have visited many times. Iowans help saved her life last year. My experience is 100% the opposite of yours to say the least. Post would go on for pages with details. I guess arrogance can be measured as needed. I live in Philly, I know we are a bunch of assholes
 
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