Give me your prediction: PSU-Iowa
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Hope your wife's medical issues work themselves and she gets better soon. We can argue about football and which team is the best and why they are and what flaws the other team has and why. At the end of the day no matter which team wins and which one loses there are bigger things than football. Again my prayers to your wife! GO PSU!
Not taking anything away from an excellent Iowa D, but this is partly who they've played. If PSU had played Tua they'd have about 5 more interceptions as well.
Barring a blow out, whomever loses this game should not fall too far - meaning they can still climb back into a potential CFP race.
Iowa’s journey will be easy after they lose, just as ours would be in the west cause the west is weaksauce.
This is one of the most astute posts in this thread. This game is impossible to predict. Both are good teams but how good, we don't know. This will be the best opponent each has faced. Statistically you can't make a case for one team over the other. Matchup wise PSU might have the edge at a couple spots, but the game being played in Kinnick is probably worth a TD for Iowa.
Last year Iowa blew PSU out with turnovers and a lot of PSU problems in the secondary. This year the PSU secondary's playing very well and PSU's offense isn't producing turnovers.
Given the quality of the defenses it should be a low-scoring game but it seems like every time you expect a low-scoring game, you get a high-scoring game. Given the history of the series there's every reason to expect a close game with turnovers/breaks deciding the winner.
If John O'Neill hasn't retired and ends up in charge of this game, that's bad news for PSU but otherwise, the B1G officiating probably won't be a factor.
If PSU-Indiana is any indication, the B1G officials have decided to rein in the targeting calls a bit and that is a good thing. The message has been sent about targeting, and there's no need to have players disqualified on ticky-tacky fouls. Hopefully we won't see that. Iowa and PSU are very physical defenses but not dirty defenses and they need to be allowed to play football. It's going to be vicious but it is going to be B1G football at its best.
Thanks Paguy35, yes, puts football games into perspective. She should be fine in the long run but life can hit you with some curve balls. Take care guys, safe travels to all coming to IC. BTW, there is a pretty good thread about where to park, restaurants, bars, etc. in Iowa City for those going. Here it is: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/ic-questions.369963/#post-9340910
First, great to hear about your daughter. Hope she is still doing well.
Second, your last point hits the nail on the head. I’m from Jersey. You are from Philly. We will both acknowledge our asshole nature. People from Iowa (from my experience) don’t think they are and would think anybody that thinks so is out of their mind. That’s the arrogance I’ve dealt with.
Lastly, I’m not joking about Iowa being my least favorite state in the union. But in the name of full disclosure, when I am in Iowa it is either towards the tail end of a 12-hour car ride to MN with my wife and 4 daughters to the in-laws house or at the front end of a 12-hour car ride home after having been at the in-laws house. Not exactly the setup for positive feelings.
Oh we have our a-holes for sure in Iowa. No doubt about it ... just like everywhere. Hopefully you have better days at the beginning or toward the end of your trips next time Connor!
Ok, here is my long winded prediction ... I've had a good time over here taking football, thanks for that.
This game looks like a coin flip on paper. Both teams are playing great defense and have great special teams (thanks to the guys who gave me some insight into PSU’s strong legged, do it all kicker). Which offense can muster enough yards without turning over the ball looks like the key to victory.
PSU escaped Iowa City in 2017 and 2019 with arguably better teams than this 2021 team (but the jury is still out on this one). In 2017, that was one of the best (if not the best) offensive teams that has played in Kinnick since I’ve been a fan (early 80’s). The bend but don’t break Phil Parker defense played a great game to keep Iowa in it. PSU was the overall better team that year, but the Iowa defense and Kinnick magic almost was enough to upset the Lions that night. It was a great game and I tip my hat to PSU in that one. McSorley and Saquon were outstanding.
This year’s PSU team doesn’t have the same dynamic offense as 2017 (no disrespect, not many teams on that side of the ball have ever existed). Saquon isn’t running out of that tunnel on Saturday night (thank goodness). Iowa is arguably better on defense and better overall on STs than the 2017 Iowa squad. My point is Iowa has a much better matchup vs PSUs offense this time than back in 2017. The counter to this is Iowa’s offense, which has been a work in progress. The OL has been a revolving door trying to figure out the best 5. Petras has been inconsistent, but has shown steady improvement in touch and accuracy (his arm strength was never in question). If Iowa can continue to keep TOs in check, move the ball at least a little they have a good chance … if not, then all bets are off.
Based on how Phil’s defense plays and the struggles PSU offense has had so far consistently running the ball, I like Iowa’s chances. I think it is possible the Iowa D will shutdown PSUs run attack and if you have to pass on most downs, it leads to Iowa’s back 7 tipping balls and getting interceptions. I don’t think PSU will be able to throw over the top against the 2 deep zone Iowa deploys in most situations. I do think Clifford will scramble on a broken play and burn Iowa for at least 1 deep ball (hopefully not more than that or Iowa could be in trouble).
I think the energy of the home crowd will play a big role in the outcome as well (another reason I’m favoring Iowa, obviously). PSU escaped with better teams in 17 and 19 (both times I think the better team won, but history suggests this is hard to do for even really good teams). I think this time Iowa will finally prevail at home.
One last intangible. KF is from PA, so there is always a little more in the tank for his team (his team obviously knows this and plays with an extra chip on their shoulder). KF is in the twilight of his career so this could be the last time he faces the team he loved growing up.
I think the final will be something like 23-16 Iowa, but if PSU wins the TO battle then flip the teams and PSU wins it …
Thanks for talking CFB! Enjoy the game and stay safe.
This game looks like a coin flip on paper. Both teams are playing great defense and have great special teams (thanks to the guys who gave me some insight into PSU’s strong legged, do it all kicker). Which offense can muster enough yards without turning over the ball looks like the key to victory.
PSU escaped Iowa City in 2017 and 2019 with arguably better teams than this 2021 team (but the jury is still out on this one). In 2017, that was one of the best (if not the best) offensive teams that has played in Kinnick since I’ve been a fan (early 80’s). The bend but don’t break Phil Parker defense played a great game to keep Iowa in it. PSU was the overall better team that year, but the Iowa defense and Kinnick magic almost was enough to upset the Lions that night. It was a great game and I tip my hat to PSU in that one. McSorley and Saquon were outstanding.
This year’s PSU team doesn’t have the same dynamic offense as 2017 (no disrespect, not many teams on that side of the ball have ever existed). Saquon isn’t running out of that tunnel on Saturday night (thank goodness). Iowa is arguably better on defense and better overall on STs than the 2017 Iowa squad. My point is Iowa has a much better matchup vs PSUs offense this time than back in 2017. The counter to this is Iowa’s offense, which has been a work in progress. The OL has been a revolving door trying to figure out the best 5. Petras has been inconsistent, but has shown steady improvement in touch and accuracy (his arm strength was never in question). If Iowa can continue to keep TOs in check, move the ball at least a little they have a good chance … if not, then all bets are off.
Based on how Phil’s defense plays and the struggles PSU offense has had so far consistently running the ball, I like Iowa’s chances. I think it is possible the Iowa D will shutdown PSUs run attack and if you have to pass on most downs, it leads to Iowa’s back 7 tipping balls and getting interceptions. I don’t think PSU will be able to throw over the top against the 2 deep zone Iowa deploys in most situations. I do think Clifford will scramble on a broken play and burn Iowa for at least 1 deep ball (hopefully not more than that or Iowa could be in trouble).
I think the energy of the home crowd will play a big role in the outcome as well (another reason I’m favoring Iowa, obviously). PSU escaped with better teams in 17 and 19 (both times I think the better team won, but history suggests this is hard to do for even really good teams). I think this time Iowa will finally prevail at home.
One last intangible. KF is from PA, so there is always a little more in the tank for his team (his team obviously knows this and plays with an extra chip on their shoulder). KF is in the twilight of his career so this could be the last time he faces the team he loved growing up.
I think the final will be something like 23-16 Iowa, but if PSU wins the TO battle then flip the teams and PSU wins it …
Thanks for talking CFB! Enjoy the game and stay safe.
Why is corn-s*cking pig-p*rking POS allowed to stay here???? Get rid of this A-Hole!!!!
I made up with Connor and don't think he is an a-hole anymore ... I'm not as much of a corn-s*cking pig-p*rking POS as you think. Just want to talk some football with you guys.
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Other team fans coming here expecting opponents to NOT be homers are idiots. I think most home boards have some varied degrees of dissenters and "realists" calling for the sky to fall, but let's be real, here. There is a reason homers is a term and you find homers on the home boards. Ours is chuck full of them too going the other way. So I agree, any Iowa fans mocking the fact that most PSU fans are calling for a happy valley in Iowa City just aren't thinking with their heads.
In my mind this game is a pickem if both teams show, a potential boat race if one or the other doesn't show, and by boat race, I still mean no more than 2 scores one way or the other.
Were those not SEC officials? SEC people are famously bad at math.
BTW I was at least as big a PSU fan that game as some of your doom and gloomers around here.
Definitely a battle of two very similar teams. If both teams limit turnovers, it will be a dog fight.
Fair warning, the ESPN crowd is already starting to call this game overrated because OSU is going to beat everyone left on their schedule and finish undefeated in the BIG. The drum beat is also on for an undefeated Cincinnati to get in over anyone not named Georgia or Alabama. If PSU wins, get ready for the biggest "not a big deal" win spin you ever saw.
I have already seen the machine starting up about how OSU has really figured it all out. It is definitely coming, all we can do is win.
I predict the company that sells the black pellets for the Iowa artificial turf will be the real winners. Be prepared to see the largest amount of black pebbles bouncing up from every step!
I commented on Saturday that with these defenses, it will be 3 yards and a cloud of rubber pellets.
That has to be one of the best performances by a RB in PSU history.
Excellent angles by the Iowa defense as well. Barkley was close to breaking 2-3 plays.
The black pellet dust is crazy to see on the replays.
We get a 100 yard back or a combination of 175 yards between Clifford and the running backs we win. Turnovers will be big in this game so will field position. We have a huge advantage with our punter.
Only need to listen to Wanny talk for seconds to hear the Yinzer accent - love it.
Actually that isn’t true. I think your punter is averaging approx 2 yards more (going from memory… your guy was 7th and our guy was 13th. Something like that). Our guy was a freshman all American last year.
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If Yursich is really good maybe he can come up with a way for the backs to get big yards with minimal blocking. If he can we should be ok, but I won't be betting the farm. And maybe conjure up some trick plays to use for goal to go at the one yard line.
Are you taking into account anything other than distance on punts? Seems like your guy doesn't punt much with these short fields and we he does, he can kick full leg. Our guy hits them 65 yards if he is fortunate enough to kick the length of the field.
It was punt average … was looking at NCAA stats. Net Punting was another category which I just looked up … you guys had about 2-3 yards better average in that (4th in the nation vs 24th). It’s funny because on the Iowa board everyone thinks we have a huge advantage in punting (obviously not paying attention to the other guy). 😀
Stout is a serious weapon in a game like this, he hits certifiable piss missles for field goals and punts. I think I like you guys over us in this game, but punting we will impress
You will be impressed with Taylor as well. He can drop them inside the 10 or 5 pretty nicely too. These teams are very similar actually. The offense which is more effective and doesn’t turn it over likely wins. But punter battle will be huge. Cannot wait!
I hope he's your most impressive player. With 10, maybe 12 punts. Lol
We have athletes too, they just don't have as many stars coming in.
We've played many teams with "superior" athletes and kicked their asses. Lol
Here's to a great game with no injuries, I have no clue how this one is going to turn out.
One thing I know , it's freaking sweet to see us ranked 3 and 4!!
Here’s to no injuries. Nightmares about the twist in the Maryland receivers leg.
I agree with Connorpozlee, for reasons other than football, although I’ve met some Hawkeye fans at Kinnick that simply sucked.
Can’t believe the doom and gloom in this thread. Glad I didn’t play sports with this thread’s naysayers. Never would have won anything.
PSU wins this game in a slugfest. Our D is better overall.
I liked the part where they didn’t talk about Iowa’s running game at all.
Try going to a game in Miami, the cops were heckling me and my son.
True story, douchebag central.
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