good article on the tix situation
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It seems like we may a victim of our own success -- by helping to grow the sport.
Thanks for nothing, Cael Sanderson!
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The explanation makes zero sense next to the anecdotes we're hearing. The NCAA's explanation is that it only seems like schools are receiving fewer tickets because those schools are all requesting more. I think someone on the other thread was making the same argument.
In other words, the NCAA is saying that b/c School X received 400 of its 500 requested (80%) in 2018, it only seems like they're receiving less when they receive 400 of the 1000 of they requested (40%) in 2019.
But that explanation is nonsense b/c the school are not saying they're receiving a smaller percentage, they're saying they're receiving fewer than they received the year prior. And we can see that here because (a) Penn State has said they're receiving fewer tickets, and (b) because Penn State operates on seniority system, we can see by virtue of who is being shut out that the allocation has shrunk.
The article quotes Holmes as saying that they had to revert to a older system, one that supposedly benefits the better-performing schools, and gives Penn State up as an example of a school that should have received more tickets than the previous year. But again, we know that isn't accurate.
...the NCAA response was too simple and I don't think it's the whole story...
...over the years the Iowas, Okie States and Okies seemed to rule the attendance while the growing Penn State fan base could not get tickets...
...when the NCAA Championship started to attract more interest the NCAA took the tournament off college campuses ...the real impetus in my opinion was more $$$s for the NCAA through corporate partners in the sponsoring cities and the ability to increase ticket prices ten-fold over the years...supply and demand still rules...
...but thas jes my opinion...
...over the years the Iowas, Okie States and Okies seemed to rule the attendance while the growing Penn State fan base could not get tickets...
...when the NCAA Championship started to attract more interest the NCAA took the tournament off college campuses ...the real impetus in my opinion was more $$$s for the NCAA through corporate partners in the sponsoring cities and the ability to increase ticket prices ten-fold over the years...supply and demand still rules...
...but thas jes my opinion...
Schools got less tickets. Period. Percentages may be affected by numbers requested but schools did get notably less.
Smaller venue also. Only holding litttle over 16k compared to 19k so even if same numbers out to sponsors etc.. less to go around to schools. But I’m guessing ncaa kept more.
This paragraph from the article struck me as a factor...
"The NCAA was able to fulfill the requests for schools that requested 100 tickets or fewer. Those that asked for between 100 and 500 tickets usually got 80 percent of their requests filled, and those that sought more than 500 received 70 percent of their request."
With 77 Division 1 programs, if a bunch of schools at the low end of ticket allocations in past years asked for more, and got them, it will take from those schools at the high end. With so many schools at the low end, it adds up. Combined with the smaller venue, and the NCAA tweaking the model, and I'm starting to see a slightly clearer picture. Still, it's not quite as transparent as it could be.
"The NCAA was able to fulfill the requests for schools that requested 100 tickets or fewer. Those that asked for between 100 and 500 tickets usually got 80 percent of their requests filled, and those that sought more than 500 received 70 percent of their request."
With 77 Division 1 programs, if a bunch of schools at the low end of ticket allocations in past years asked for more, and got them, it will take from those schools at the high end. With so many schools at the low end, it adds up. Combined with the smaller venue, and the NCAA tweaking the model, and I'm starting to see a slightly clearer picture. Still, it's not quite as transparent as it could be.
But those numbers aren't accurate. Not based on numbers we know. NDSU requested 150 or so and got 50. No where near 80%. tOSU requested 1200 and got 500. Again no where near 70%. So again the whole thing this year rings hollow to the fan who supports the sport and now is getting shut out of its main event.
It’s Spyker’s fault. He called the 800 number and bought 30 to 40 thousand tickets already.
Uh Oh, wait till his wife finds out.It’s Spyker’s fault. He called the 800 number and bought 30 to 40 thousand tickets already.
Googling it Cleveland capacity was 20,562 and Pittsburgh 19,758. Those numbers are for bball
Uh Oh, wait till his wife finds out.
He has a fictitious wife to go along with his fictitious son? I didn't know that.
That link is priceless because it confirms Real-Spyker and PSU-Champs are the same poster.
All you have to do is scroll down from the linked post #64 ... down 2 spots to where it's quoted in post #66. Compare handles from original to quoted, and there it is.
