Letting Nevills get his weight to nearly 260 pounds was a head-scratcher for me. He seems to do better at around 250.
Head Scratching Decisons 2016-17
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Vegas. Travel, lodging, and dining options are both abundant and relatively inexpensive. Lots of extracurricular opportunities for those not interested in watching all six sessions (read: wife).
Would prefer Cliff Keen over The Scuffle. Chattanooga is not easy to get to and I prefer to spend the holidays with family and friends. I also liked that our wrestlers got to go home and recharge their batteries over Christmas and New Years. I believe it gives us an advantage over the schools that attend The Scuffle or Midlands, both as a recruiting tool (wrestle for us, be home for the holidays) but also helping towards peaking at the right time of year. Western exposure is also a plus.
Snyder's performance proved his injury was not that much of a risk. Lifting Medberry pretty much extinguished any idea that the rib injury was as severe as thought. Not only that but also facetious to claim that Ryan put him on the mat only for the team score as I'm sure Snyder wanted to wrestle in the championship regardless of whether his team had a shot or not. Plenty of other things to criticize Ryan on, but this isn't one of them.
Las Vegas will never be an option. The T-Mobile Arena may meet the specifications at about 18,000 for a National Championship, but that's on the small side, and won't be a feasible option. Then there's the whole gambling thing...so again, no go.
Saw an article from Mark Palmer that suggests Las Vegas is an option. I'm still not convinced it is. Here's a list of the largest arenas in the country, and a capacity (which may or may not represent the capacity for an 8-mat wrestling setup. Sorry in advance for the formatting..listed is the arena name, capacity, and city. I went all the way to the Wells Fargo Arena in Des Moines, as it was held there several years ago...but never will again (too small). The bottom half or so are probably out, based on the current level of attendance for the National Championships.
Rupp Arena 23,500 Lexington
Greensboro Coliseum 23,500 Greensboro
Marriott Center 22,700 Provo
Scottrade Center 22,610 St. Louis
The Palace of Auburn Hills 22,076 Auburn Hills
KFC Yum! Center 22,000 Louisville
Dean Smith Center 21,750 Chapel Hill
Thompson–Boling Arena 21,678 Knoxville
Wells Fargo Center 21,600 Philadelphia
American Airlines Center 21,041 Dallas
United Center 20,917 Chicago
BankAtlantic Center 20,737 Sunrise
Rose Garden 20,630 Portland
Quicken Loans Arena 20,562 Cleveland
Target Center 20,500 Minneapolis
St. Pete Times Forum 20,500 Tampa
Verizon Center 20,173 Washington, D.C.
Joe Louis Arena 20,066 Detroit
Izod Center 20,049 East Rutherford
Amway Center 20,000 Orlando
EnergySolutions Arena 19,991 Salt Lake City
Madison Square Garden 19,763 New York City
RBC Center 19,722 Raleigh
American Airlines Arena 19,600 Miami
Chesapeake Energy Arena 19,599 Oklahoma City
Oracle Arena 19,596 Oakland
Kemper Arena 19,500 Kansas City
Nationwide Arena 19,500 Columbus
Bridgestone Arena 19,395 Nashville
Pepsi Center 19,309 Denver
Bud Walton Arena 19,200 Fayetteville
First Niagara Center 19,200 Buffalo
Jerome Schottenstein Center 19,200 Columbus
Consol Energy Center 19,100 Pittsburgh
Time Warner Cable Arena 19,026 Charlotte
Bradley Center 19,000 Milwaukee
Barclays Center 19,000 Brooklyn
Staples Center 18,997 Los Angeles
Freedom Hall 18,865 Louisville
AT&T Center 18,797 San Antonio
Thomas & Mack Center 18,776 Paradise, Nevada
Philips Arena 18,729 Atlanta
TD Garden 18,624 Boston
HP Pavilion at San Jose 18,500 San Jose
Sprint Center 18,500 Kansas City
Prudential Center 18,500 Newark
US Airways Center 18,422 Phoenix
Consol Energy Center 18,387 Pittsburgh
Bankers Life Fieldhouse 18,345 Indianapolis
Toyota Center 18,300 Houston
FedExForum 18,119 Memphis
Xcel Energy Center 18,064 Saint Paul
Verizon Arena 18,000 North Little Rock
Colonial Life Arena 18,000 Columbia
Comcast Center 17,950 College Park
BOK Center 17,839 Tulsa
Jobing.com Arena 17,799 Glendale
Birmingham Jefferson Convention Arena 17,654 Birmingham
Honda Center 17,600 Anaheim
CenturyLink Center Omaha 17,560 Omaha
The Forum 17,505 Ingelwood
Allstate Arena 17,500 Rosemont
Times Union Center 17,500 Albany
Assembly Hall 17,456 Bloomington
Power Balance Pavilion 17,317 Sacramento
New Orleans Arena 17,188 New Orleans
MGM Grand Garden Arena 17,157 Paradise
Kohl Center 17,142 Madison
The Pit 17,126 Albuquerque
KeyArena 17,098 Seattle
U.S. Bank Arena 17,000 Cincinnati
Frank Erwin Center 16,755 Austin
State Farm Center 16,618 Champaign
Pinnacle Bank Arena 16,590 Lincoln
Allen Fieldhouse 16,300 Lawrence
XL Center 16,294 Hartford
Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum 16,234 Uniondale
Los Angeles Memorial Sports Arena 16,161 Los Angeles
Wells Fargo Arena 16,110 Des Moines
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...and then still losing by 40 points.
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I think the head scratcher for Ryan, will be somebody pulling down to 157 this year, rather than somebody pulling down to 125.
Ohio State will be closer next year. Okie State and Iowa probably do not chase 100 and that will leave more points on the table for the NatureNuts.
If he can get NATO down to 125 that gives them probable AAs in the first 4 weights as well as the bottom 4 weights (all 4 at least past finalists) with Campbell at 165.
If he can get NATO down to 125 that gives them probable AAs in the first 4 weights as well as the bottom 4 weights (all 4 at least past finalists) with Campbell at 165.
An update on North Carolina (where I know the Greensboro Coliseum, capacity 23,500 at the top of Roar's list, and experienced at holding big sporting events) has been interested in hosting the NCAA Wrestling championships: the state legislature passed and the Governor signed a bill changing the provisions of their policy toward transgender discrimination. The NCAA has since said they WILL consider North Carolina again for hosting championship events (and the ACC has done the same thing).
This is obviously late in the selection process, but we'll see if it makes any difference. Would love to see the wrestling tournament in Greensboro.
This is obviously late in the selection process, but we'll see if it makes any difference. Would love to see the wrestling tournament in Greensboro.
Actually they passed a law restating that LGBT discrimination is OK, then put out a press release saying they didn't do that. Nobody was fooled. North Carolina is still off limits to the NCAA.
North Carolina had a choice between being a modern prosperous state and being a slum full of barefoot hicks. They chose barefoot hicks.
You can debate the NC policies, but the NCAA is back in play for championship events in North Carolina.
From the New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/sports/ncaa-hb2-north-carolina-boycott-bathroom-bill.html?_r=0
N.C.A.A. Ends Boycott of North Carolina After So-Called Bathroom Bill Is Repealed
By MARC TRACYAPRIL 4, 2017
I thought St Louis was great. My first time at the NCAA's But I can see why the tournament goes there so often.
Sort of. They originally said no but then sort of removed the ban. From the article you reference:
The N.C.A.A.’s carefully worded statement left the door open to its continuing to make decisions on a case-by-case basis and even to retracting hosting opportunities on short notice in light of new developments — as it did last year, when it moved several championship events, including men’s basketball tournament games, out of the state. The N.C.A.A. noted that it requires prospective hosts to submit “additional documentation” — it includes a questionnaire — about their ability to protect visitors from discrimination.
Looks like you have difficulty admitting your post was wrong.
And maybe you need some work on your own tolerance?
The NCAA allowing ESPNever the rights to broadcast the event. Sorry, forgot about their collusionary relationship.
Head Scratching Decision: Zain decides, again, to scratch a guy's head using the mat:
Easy on the Campbell AA thing: Kid scored 3 points last month in St Louis, and the weight class is LOADED again next season.
BS politics.... the ACC wrestling championships were in Raleigh this year. NCAA should stick to governing its own programs and not others. They have plenty of work to do within.
I'd love to see it in the southeast and promote wrestling more down here. Was at the last one down here (I believe the last one)--UNC 1994 when McCoy won his first NCAA title and Abe & Kolat came in 3rd.
I thought of another comical one... Mark Hall forgetting to take a singlet to the Scuffle.
He represented North Forsyth High School pretty darned well though, didn't he!
Neutral-site events were pulled from the state. The ACC Wrestling Championships were hosted by North Carolina State University, and as such, was not pulled.
Hey after the Flo debacle, I was just happy to be able to watch our wrestlers without having to resort to finding the action on someone's Facebook page... That was painful
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Head Scratching Decision: Zain decides, again, to scratch a guy's head using the mat:
Darn Dog, that's funny.
NYWrestler94, over on HR, agreeing with someone's post about Cael being a "scumbag".
And no, you cannot agree to 35 percent of a post. Someone writes something, you agree with it, and you are on the hook for the whole post.
Unless you are a card carrying member I suppose...
And no, you cannot agree to 35 percent of a post. Someone writes something, you agree with it, and you are on the hook for the whole post.
Unless you are a card carrying member I suppose...
In that vein I don't disagree. Wrestling exposure on a big stage is always good. Especially when the good guys are winning.
He wrestled a poor TACTICAL match. He certainly did NOT "fade" as others claim.
How was it physically possible for Cory Clark to wrestle that well with an injured shoulder AND wrist on the same arm? The kid gets world class bad ass status in my book.
PSU wrestling fans complaining about anything ever.
I was surprised by that, as well as Mayes taking down on Zain in 3rd period, and Lizak not taking top against Cruz (he dominated Cruz from the top the first time they wrestled).
How about 2009-10 edition:
Iowa fan base selling Cael short:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.blac...29/1284010/welcome-back-cael-1-iowa-wrestling
Iowa fan base selling Cael short:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.blac...29/1284010/welcome-back-cael-1-iowa-wrestling
Me being surprised that people continued to question the PSU coaching staff..... definite head-scratcher.
I've lived in both states. I was actually born in Winston Salem and have tons of family a stones throw away from the Greensboro Coliseum in nearby Kernersville. Moving back there in my early twenties, I quickly realized North Carolina was doing some great things there in terms of population growth and their economy. Haven't looked it up but I'd say growth in PA pales in comparison to NC in both categories.
After my job brought me back to Pa, first to the Harrisburg/York area then to Western Pa, at times it almost felt like I was moving back in time. Don't get me wrong, in my opinion the hills of Pa is a great place to raise a family but let's face it, there ALOT of areas of this great state that has been terribly forgotten. And when you mention "barefoot hicks".. you might want to make a trek toward the Appalachian mountains. I'm still unsure how counties such as Bedford, Cambria and Somerset escaped being mapped into West Virginia. When I brought my wife here, that bare foot Logan County WV coal miners daughter felt right at home.
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Cory Clark is a class act. Just listen to his interview after he won the national championship.
Ranking OK ST #1 for 99% of the season.
Using computers to rank OK ST #1
Not using computers and ranking OK ST #1
Using computers to rank OK ST #1
Not using computers and ranking OK ST #1
"Anyone that thinks pulling Mark Hall's redshirt was a mistake, is an idiot" CP
"Even if he takes SEVENTH, it's a good decision" Willie.
So, stick that in your cake hole.
"Even if he takes SEVENTH, it's a good decision" Willie.
So, stick that in your cake hole.
