He's good right now, and he'll have to be accounted for. He's not Clayborn, but he has potential.
Herbstreit & Fowler are doing the game this week?
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He's good right now, and he'll have to be accounted for. He's not Clayborn, but he has potential.
The best duo on ABC is Tessitore and Blackledge. Fowler and Herbstreit are their "A" selections for broadcast, but not their best team.
I think Fowler is awful at this gig. Nothing to do with sanction or shame talk.... he's just not good at football play by play
Bring back Brent
Bring back Brent
I think you can dismiss the ISU game as evidence that Iowa isn't very good. That's a huge rivalry game and is close in many years, even when there appears to be a big talent gap between the 2 teams. I'm never surprised to see that one end in a close score.
If they bring up sanctions, it will be to demonstrate how much JF and the team have overcome. Not to shame us. You guys need to get a grip.
Yeah right - what will be their excuse in 10 years for bringing it up every game because I bet that happens.
Fowler isn't perfect: His style is bland, and while his manner is professional, he is somewhere in the middle of all the play by play announcers. I do have a soft spot for him, though: He had to literally work his way up the ladder, from the very bottom at ESPN. When he started they had him doing their worst, filler programming. He was the anchor of the scholastic sports spotlight, and did things like mountain biking, triathalons, and nearly all the women's minor sports like field hockey, etc. This will be hard to recall for many, but Fowler also was one of the very few Paterno defenders in the early 2000's when nearly the entire nation was calling for his retirement, including many in the PSU fan base. Fowler even did a commercial illustrating how to fix the many problems with PSU, during what is now called "The Dark Years". No, I don't have the clip, but it is out there, and perhaps someone else can find it.
Clayborn was poorly assessed in high school. He was far better than a 4 star and single handedly beat PSU in 2009. He and Mitch King were simply unblockable for both of those games.
I don't understand why people are debating the merits of Fowler and Herbie on this thread. Doesn't everyone just mute the sound on their TV and listen to Steve Jones and Jack Ham? They provide much more insight on Penn State football than any TV commentator. Also, since TV has a couple seconds of delay, you know what to watch for before each play shows up on TV. Some people hate this but I consider it an advantage. I know what to watch for.
Penn State will get three turnovers and win going away. No disrespect to Iowa only to their low life fans. WE ARE !!!!!!
Board is hysterical...Didn't someone point out that Fowler made a jab back at Herbie after the Ohio State loss to Oklahoma that the student section was "empty"...and I'm paraphrasing...that jab was made because of Herbie's comments about last years PSU vs OSU game ?
I like Fowler...think he has been fair. Regardless of comments made about what transpired at our school. You can't escape...justified or not ...that our University is associated with one of the most notorious "criminal" acts in the history of college sports. Agree it was not an "athletic" issue but...we had NO ONE stand up for ourselves...a text book case on EPIC failure of leadership...EPIC.
Bringing up the past is not the fault of announcers..."we" let this happen
I place a HUGE blame on the weak ass CLOWNS who were running the University at the time...and Erickson has a building named after him ?
OMG...
I'm a fan of Fowler...always have been. Herbie is Herbie...however neither come close to Blackledge in terms of Professionalism within their craft...
IMO...
How precisely did "we" let this happen? That's a ridiculous assertion given that the primary damager of PSU's reputation was, and is, a corrupt, debased, immoral, indecent, hypocritical, scumbag lawyer-turned-politician AG supposed "public servant" who did nothing except corruptly and tyrannically abuse his public authorities & powers to advance his own narcissistic political career and lust for power. This corrupt lawyer-turned-politician abused his public office to become Governor and then corruptly abused his standing on Pennsylvania's "Land Grant" Flagship University, created by an Act of the Pennsylvania Legislature in 1862, which gave the Governor not only a seat on the Board of the University, but extraordinary powers to CONTROL the University's BOT including 6 direct appointees, members of the Governor's Cabinet hold seats on the Board, etc... such that the Governor and The State are the only party with a directly-controlled voting-block on the PSU BOT that had direct-control over 6 additional BOT seats via the "B&I Appointments" which are effictively directly appointed by the "Execuive Committee of the BOT" via control of nominations. Again, the only party on the Board who controls an unassailable "voting block", and therefore control of the BOT itself, is the Governor.
Do tell precisely how "we" (a clear allusion to PSU Alumnus) could have prevented a corrupt lawyer-turned-politician who was bent on immorally and corruptly abusing his public offices and powers including his ability to control PA's Government-Created Land-Grant Flagship University for his own narcissistic, ceaselessly self-serving political agendas, averice and never-ending lust for power & advancement regardless of means?
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Any English majors out there willing to attempt to diagram the Preppie's third sentence?
I don't think I disagree with his point of view, but that ran on longer than Barkley's TD in the Rose Bowl.
It's going to be a long night on this board Saturday with all the "Herbie is being mean to us" and "ESPN hates us" posts. Not quite sure why highly intelligent football fans (we have a bunch of them who post here) give a crap what these talking heads have to say.
I don't think I disagree with his point of view, but that ran on longer than Barkley's TD in the Rose Bowl.
It's going to be a long night on this board Saturday with all the "Herbie is being mean to us" and "ESPN hates us" posts. Not quite sure why highly intelligent football fans (we have a bunch of them who post here) give a crap what these talking heads have to say.
I think he actually writes pretty well. The only error I caught was his using "illusion " when he meant "allusion." The verbiage is perhaps a bit overwrought for some people's taste, but I frequently agree with him, particularly concerning his opinion of people like Corbett and Fina.
LB - I can GUARANTEE that he'll never be accused of plagiarism! I just need to keep an oxygen tank handy as I sometimes feel faint getting through some of his longer sentences.....
"WE" is not the Alumni base I was referring to..."WE" I refer to were the people put in place who were supposed to protect the University at the time ( Old Guard BOT ; Frazier , Peetz , Surma , Erickson etc)
I do believe their actions or inactions were a huge part of this tragedy spinning so dangerously out of control.
Must be because it's Iowa week. No one has a bigger persecution/inferiority complex than Iowa.
There's no doubt that the people you refer to are weak, cowardly, narcissistic, craven individuals, but they are clearly not the "prime movers" in this tragedy, massive injustice, political tyranny and hugely damaging incident to the tune of billions of dollar to innocents. It is beyond clear imho, via basic logic and Occam's Razor, that the proximate cause of the unjust damage to PSU and the PSU Community was Corrupt Corbutt and the corrupt "Political Junta" that created him - the MontCo/Hershey GOP Crime Syndicate. The construction of the "False Narrative" and the corrupt abuse of the PA Statewide Investigating Grand Jury Law (HIT THIS LINK - Go to 4544) to "bait and switch" the Statewide Investigating Grand Jury ("SWIGJ") to be exclusively about a "Malicious Prosecution" of PSU for the purpose of using PSUas an Indemnification Company rather than the stated purpose of the SWIGJ Application to Investigate Sandusky and TSM, a children's charity founded by Sandusky and an entity where he was listed as the most-powerful "Control Person" on Regulatory & Licensing Filings!:
Corrupt Corbutt who made the application on 5/1/2009 while still AG after the DPW forwarded their Formal Investigative Report with a Request for Prosecution under PA CPSL which "Indicated a Report of CSA" on 03/03/2009 as even acknowledged in Corbutt's Application.
It is beyond clear imho that Corbutt used the SWIGJ as a sledgehammer to cajole anybody who resisted his agenda to provide "paid politicial and criminal protection" for allies at The Second Mile and to shift the responsibility for Sandusky's 5 Decade absue of the PA DPW's various Child Care & Welfare Programs such as Adoption, Foster Parenting and Group Homes as well as the DPW's County-Level CYS Offices' ability to provide access to the County Public School Systems such as Central Mountain High School where the seminal subject of the SWIGJ, V1 Aaron Fisher, attended and Sandusky was a Counsellor and Football Coach via the auspice of TSM and the Clinton County CYS Office's full-time "Second Mile Coordinator".
IOW, it is pretty clear to me that Corbutt via his GOP Political Ally, Surma, basically told any craven PSU BOT members (again, keep in mind, the PA Governor is the only party on the PSU Board of Trustees that CONTROLS an unassailable "voting block" on the PSU BOT and therefore absolute CONTROL of the all-powerful "Executive Committee of the PSU BOT") that it was either the "False Narrative Foil" that he had constructed, including its "fall guys" OR if they resisted, he'd go after them....(he simply held a gun to their head, just like the NCAA would corruptly do less than a year later and the craven cowards fell-in-line again - go figure!).
How about the alumnus/alumni mix up? Although I swear that most of the posters here think alumni is singular.
Don't think you are correct. I am fully aware that Alumni is plural and Alumnus singular (technically speaking, an "alumnus" is a singular male graduate and "alumnae" a singular female graduate....just as Alumni is technically the plural masculine form of the noun in Latin. However by convention Alumni and Alumnus are used as the "gender neutral form" of the noun as well in the English Language). In any event, the OP used the term "we" in his sentence to allude to each individual PSU Alumnus' responsibility for how this went down due to each individual Alumnus' lack of action to prevent it imho. "Alumni" can not carry responsibility and accountability for an individual member's lack of action - only the individual can carry that responsibility and accountability for their actions, or lack thereof; therefore, I believe the correct form of the noun was "Alumnus", not "Alumni".
I don't believe the final sentence in PSU-I's post is a question despite the "?," but I will admit my brain was a bit numb by the time I got that far.
The Preppie is actually a pretty impressive wordsmith. I, too, tend to agree with a lot of his posts. And even those I disagree with are usually well thought out once you wade all the way through them.
But he starts to grind my gears with all the personal attacks and absurd name-calling that show up nearly ever time someone dares to offer a different opinion. Then there is the constant beeching about the officials nearly every game day.
The Preppie is actually a pretty impressive wordsmith. I, too, tend to agree with a lot of his posts. And even those I disagree with are usually well thought out once you wade all the way through them.
But he starts to grind my gears with all the personal attacks and absurd name-calling that show up nearly ever time someone dares to offer a different opinion. Then there is the constant beeching about the officials nearly every game day.
