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Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go! -- Game Thread

Tomlin is simply not a good coach. Bad game day decisions and can’t keep his players from shooting off their mouths and talking about contracts when they still have work to do. Heck, he couldn’t control himself from talking about a Pats/Steelers AFC championship leading up to their regular season game. If he can’t exercise self control, how can he control his team. Steelers were the most talented team in the AFC (at least offensively) and were built to beat the Pats, except for their head coach. Also, I think Haley has to go.
 
Tomlin is simply not a good coach. Bad game day decisions and can’t keep his players from shooting off their mouths and talking about contracts when they still have work to do. Heck, he couldn’t control himself from talking about a Pats/Steelers AFC championship leading up to their regular season game. If he can’t exercise self control, how can he control his team. Steelers were the most talented team in the AFC (at least offensively) and were built to beat the Pats, except for their head coach. Also, I think Haley has to go.
He doesn’t practice any discipline and his team reflects it
 
Yeah, the inside kick was questionable, but the jags were getting 4-5 yards every carry so it’s not like a 3 and out was very likely. My goodness though, that onside kick was f****** atrocious.

The big surprise for me was how overmatched the steeler dline was. They got man handled.
There’s a big flaw in Tomlin’s Onside kick logic. The league-wide success rate is 20%. I have to think the odds of a Steelers stop on D we’re higher than 20%.

Just a quick look at the game drive summaries shows Jax went 3 and out on 4 of 11 drives. So the odds say 36% chance of a stop while kicking deep vs 20% for the onsides kick.

And that ignores the fact that the onsides kick allows Jax to attempt a FG without getting a first down.
 
There’s a big flaw in Tomlin’s Onside kick logic. The league-wide success rate is 20%. I have to think the odds of a Steelers stop on D we’re higher than 20%.

Just a quick look at the game drive summaries shows Jax went 3 and out on 4 of 11 drives. So the odds say 36% chance of a stop while kicking deep vs 20% for the onsides kick.

And that ignores the fact that the onsides kick allows Jax to attempt a FG without getting a first down.
Well where the hell were you when tomlin needed you. Because he should have kicked it away. 10th dumbest thing they did on the day .

Hey Sj you should make a coaching video or what not to do in a a game.
 
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I think Tomlin and Halley are arrogant in thier game planning and in game coaching decisions.

I don't know if was Haley or Ben who called it, but those two 4th and inches plays where they failed to convert on a toss to Bell and pass to Juju were killers. You have a 6' 5" 240lb QB and you can't get enough push to pick up a foot on a sneak?
 
It's sad to think that my head coach gave up on our team today. But that's what Tomlin did at the 2:15 Mark of the game. He called an onside kick because he gave up on the defense.
And he stated that at the post game press conference. Pathetic.
 
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I don't know if was Haley or Ben who called it, but those two 4th and inches plays where they failed to convert on a toss to Bell and pass to Juju were killers. You have a 6' 5" 240lb QB and you can't get enough push to pick up a foot on a sneak?
Juju was held badly on that fourth down play. That could have been a TD without the hold. The pass was perfect
 
Oops. I forgot just how awful Tomlin and Haley are. The Patriots convert those 4th and a foot plays 100 times out of 100 because they're smart enough to just have Brady lean forward. The Steelers pitch it backwards 6 yards instead.

Very frustrating to know the Steelers are the better team, but the coaching is such a joke.
 
Well steelers and Penn state do not run qb sneaks. Stubborn or stupid! Most basic play of all in football. Is it to old school to be cool? Well first downs are cool in my book.


I believe NO & Brees converted a 4th and 1 today.
 
How good is Mike Mitchell? He hits hard, talks a lot but is he average or better than average?
 
Both coordinators need to go. Just can’t beleive the 3rd down conversion rate with no pressure on bortles. Maybe we should lose because i can’t go through this again against Brady

Yea I'm pretty disgusted with Haley on those 2 4th down calls but he should have gotten Int. on the last one.
That being said its not Haley or Ben's or the Offense thats the problem, its the sieve that is The Steelers Defense.
They flat out stink.
 
I suspected as much...but now I'm convinced Tomlin does not know football. The onside kick is the absolute wrong decision.

Most times I would agree with what you said but I think Tomlin knew his defense wasn't going to stop them, I mean they hadn't all day so I'm actually ok with the onside kick. Now if you want to talk about the execution of it. Geesh it looked like a highschool on side kick. Pathetic.
 
Anyone seen Jesse James lately? Injured today?

He was running wide open for a TD on the Pass Ben made to Brown for the TD.
But yea they didnt' seem to use him much, actually I didnt' think they used him much after his catch (it was a catch) against the Pats.
 
How good is Mike Mitchell? He hits hard, talks a lot but is he average or better than average?
Not sure if you're kidding, but you left out "he's awful," which is the correct answer. If he is on the Steelers roster next year, I will out-Mitchell him and guarantee the Steelers will not make the Super Bowl.
 
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It kind of did. I don't think Tomlin had any faith in his defense being able to stop them, I know I didnt.
It was idiotic. The Steelers' last successful onside kick was more than 10 years ago. The odds of a successful onside kick have to be infinitesimal. The Steelers at least held the Jags to one 3 and out earlier in the game -- and then did so after the onside kick. The only problem was it was in game-clinching FG territory.
You kick it deep. You call timeout after 1st down and before the 2:00 warning. The 2:00 warning comes after 2nd down. You call timeout after 3rd down, with about 1:54 left. They punt, and you get the ball at about your 30 with 1:45 left. End of story.
 
Most times I would agree with what you said but I think Tomlin knew his defense wasn't going to stop them, I mean they hadn't all day so I'm actually ok with the onside kick. Now if you want to talk about the execution of it. Geesh it looked like a highschool on side kick. Pathetic.
My perspective is two-fold. First, even though the defense was not making stops all day, the odds of making a stop are better than recovering an onside kick. Second, Tomlin basically gave up on his defense. And as head coach, you should never give up on your team. You have to at least give the defense a shot at it.
 
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My perspective is two-fold. First, even though the defense was not making stops all day, the odds of making a stop are better than recovering an onside kick. Second, Tomlin basically gave up on his defense. And as head coach, you should never give up on your team. You have to at least give the defense a shot at it.

Absolutely agree. I didn't mean to imply I agreed with the decision, I didn't, but I understand why. Sort of.
It was an incredibly poorly coached game by all Steeler Parties.
I would be looking for a new DC today.
 
Excellent game. I wasn't rooting against or pulling for either team, just wanted to watch some football on a Sunday afternoon. My take on the game was that Tom Coughlin will make the Jacksonville Jaguars one of the most feared teams in then NFL. Both Mara and Tisch made a big big big mistake forcing this man out. Like he did for the Giants he's bringing discipline and self respect to a team that was in disarray. My other take on the game was the questionable play calling by the Steelers in the 4th qtr, downright terrible! Although I don't believe Mike Tomlin made those bone headed calls he certainly could have overruled them thereby preventing the Steelers from loosing the game. Honestly, those last 4 or 5 calls should cost someone their job.
 
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