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Hernandez had Stage 3 CTE.

Don't near all NFL players suffer from this? 110 out of 111 studied. Perhaps that is not a significant correlation.

Tragic.
 
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I heard on sports talk radio yesterday that his autopsy showed he had angel dust in his system when he died. It's crazy what can be smuggled into prisons.
 
That must have been the reason he was in a gang all his life and murdered those people....all because of football....yeah....ok
 
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His problems with getting into trouble go back to when he had just started as a freshman at UF. So, IMO, that type of behavior predates his advanced CTE and therefore is not attributable to football.
 
We should just assume that when a football player is going crazy-eight-bonkers, he has CTE or is on drugs. I am thinking that nasty defender for the Bengals is a candidate. He is just not normal with the stupid stuff he does.
 
I would like to see what autopsies of the brains of football players who played before the performance enhancing era show.
 

So how does this explain all his violent "gang-associated" criminal behavior as a minor in CT before he ever arrived at Florida or the Patriots (or his distributing pictures via mobile phone media brandishing guns as a "Gang'sta" while at Florida)??? Certainly "CTE" does not explain his propensity for crime, violent crime and to get in trouble as a teenager? I sense some PC bull$hit to use a CTE diagnosis as an overly broad explanation for lack of personal accountability for one's own behavior. Trying to make Hernandez into a "victim" here when his criminal "gang life" began as a teenager is a huge stretch imho.
 
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So how does this explain all his violent "gang-associated" criminal behavior as a minor in CT before he ever arrived at Florida or the Patriots (or his distributing pictures via mobile phone media brandishing guns as a "Gang'sta" while at Florida)??? Certainly "CTE" does not explain his propensity for crime, violent crime and to get in trouble as a teenager? I sense some PC bull$hit to use a CTE diagnosis as an overly broad explanation for lack of personal accountability for one's own behavior. Trying to make Hernandez into a "victim" here when his criminal "gang life" began as a teenager is a huge stretch imho.

IMO, arguing that his actions are 100% attributable to CTE is as crazy as arguing his actions are 100% to his prior gangster ties.

From what I understand about CTE, social instability, depression, and impulsive and suicidal behavior are symptoms of the disease. If he had stage 3 CTE, it was likely hard for him to control his impulses and likely contributed to Hernandez's actions.
 
Hernandez' death is no tragedy.
Yes it was. As was a substantial portion of his life. From the accounts, prior to UF he was a nice kid prone to run with the wrong crowd. Became one of the trouble characters at UF, but it was brushed under the rug. And the higher he went with football, the longer his leash. He was a thug. Can't blame it on the CTE, but it likely didn't matters.

Like you, I wasn't shedding tears when I heard the news he was convicted or ultimately gone. But the whole thing is a tragedy.
 
Anyone else ever had a serious head injury? I was hospitalized for 2 weeks with the entire left side of head caved in. How many of us are living a normal life and could very well be diagnosed with CTE.

Lawyers are on a feeding frenzy with CTE cases!
 
IMO, arguing that his actions are 100% attributable to CTE is as crazy as arguing his actions are 100% to his prior gangster ties.

From what I understand about CTE, social instability, depression, and impulsive and suicidal behavior are symptoms of the disease. If he had stage 3 CTE, it was likely hard for him to control his impulses and likely contributed to Hernandez's actions.

Maybe they contributed to his decision to commit suicide (generally associated with severe depression personality disorder), but I think it is a stretch to claim they were the proximate cause of his violent, criminal behavior as that behavior dates all the way back to his "Juvenile" days in CT.
 
When I retire I am going to open a marketing firm called Sarcastic Bitterness Marketing.

Vision: To help our clients cling to the tiniest disagreement forever.
Slogan: We. Never. Let. It. Go.

Just like the news media with JoePa.
 
He was a bad guy but many of these other ex-players were not and are not and are really having a hard time with CTE - I only have girls but if I had a boy not sure I would want him to play football at this time, this stuff is scary and I had a nephew who had to give up football at 13 due to several concussions - crazy.
 
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The real story will be the impact this is going to have on moving up the demise of football.
 
haven't paid much attention but the NFLPA already settled their suit regarding CTE with the NFL. I am not sure the validity of this suit versus that. I would assume that the NFLPA suit barred AH, as a member of the NFLPA, from filing an individual suit..but who knows.
 
Maybe they contributed to his decision to commit suicide, but I think it is a stretch to claim they were the proximate cause of his violent, criminal behavior as that behavior dates all the way back to his "Juvenile" days in CT.
Plus he probably had a few knocks to the noggin in fights during his pre college gang days that contributed to to his CTE. In the "old days" CTE was called "punch drunk" due to its prevalence in prize fighters.
 
Yes it was. As was a substantial portion of his life. From the accounts, prior to UF he was a nice kid prone to run with the wrong crowd. Became one of the trouble characters at UF, but it was brushed under the rug. And the higher he went with football, the longer his leash. He was a thug. Can't blame it on the CTE, but it likely didn't matters.

Like you, I wasn't shedding tears when I heard the news he was convicted or ultimately gone. But the whole thing is a tragedy.

No, it wasn't.

Kindly explain your thoughts to Odin Lloyd's family, I am sure they would be interested to hear your explanation.
 
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No, it wasn't.

Kindly explain your thoughts to Odin Lloyd's family, I am sure they would be interested to hear your explanation.

Read.

I'm not suggesting AH wasn't a thug. I'm also not suggesting his end isn't something befitting of a thug who did as he did.

The story was a tragedy, whether what he got in the end was just or not.

Don't reply. I don't have time to argue this stupid point any further.
 
Anyone else ever had a serious head injury? I was hospitalized for 2 weeks with the entire left side of head caved in. How many of us are living a normal life and could very well be diagnosed with CTE.

Lawyers are on a feeding frenzy with CTE cases!
Jake LaMotta fought over one hundred professional fights against some of the greatest fighters of all time. Hundreds of rounds and thousands of punches not counting sparring and training. He died last week at 95 and supposedly was sharp as a tack. How come no CTE problems?
 
Jake LaMotta fought over one hundred professional fights against some of the greatest fighters of all time. Hundreds of rounds and thousands of punches not counting sparring and training. He died last week at 95 and supposedly was sharp as a tack. How come no CTE problems?
Some people smoke well into their 80s and never get lung cancer, but smoking still CAUSES LUNG CANCER.
 
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Every brain they studied was from an individual who was showing symptoms.
True, but my understanding is that even if every single untested brain over the same time frame tested negative, the number of positive results would still be statistically unusually high. CTE is going to be the death of football as we know it. I think it's only a matter of time.
 
Hernandez was also a thug. I am sympathetic to his Stage 3 CTE diagnosis, but it is not an excuse for being a thug during and before he played football!
He's a murderer. Plenty of thugs don't take someone's life. The word is murderer.
 
When I retire I am going to open a marketing firm called Sarcastic Bitterness Marketing.

Vision: To help our clients cling to the tiniest disagreement forever.
Slogan: We. Never. Let. It. Go.
For your Grand Opening, I'll stop by and we can cook some hot dogs over your fire. :p
 
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He was a sociopath. CTE may even have contributed to some of the things he did in some form but he was an evil pile of...

In almost all extreme cases the worst of the anger/depression is directed inward. Not just thoughtless murder.
 
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Perfect. For every one you eat, I'll give one away for free. Invite 21 Guns to come with you.
I grew up on a vegetable farm. Anything you can get without a pesticide license is lightweight. Seriously.

BTW, WD-40 works great as a replacement for hornet spray.
 
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He's a murderer. Plenty of thugs don't take someone's life. The word is murderer.
Exactly. Look at when he took his OWN life. Right after the second murder trial. Then he goes back to his cell, and realizes, "I'm still here....". He took his own life. Remember the victims of his horrific crimes. Don't worry about Hernandez,.
 
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