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No the difference was the different ways the games were called. Stop the BS
It's not. There's no BS.
The defense gets called for holding when the receiver actually beats there man. Also OSU wasn't called for defensive holding once. They were also called for DPI against us.
 
You can't "throw it up" on that route. Run a fade if you want to do that.
Allar made the right decision...the issue was Downs took away option one and he only had 2 plus their was pressure
If you think that ball should have gone to Warren then I am Saban compared to you
Yeah, like throwing to Warren on a fade in the corner when he was totally covered with Evans streaking across the "wide open middle of the field" for an easy TD!
 
Yeah, like throwing to Warren on a fade in the corner when he was totally covered with Evans streaking across the "wide open middle of the field" for an easy TD!
What are you talking about? You all believe there's always someone open as though a QB is reading all 5 routes instantly. Warren was the first read. There was pressure. He did nothing wrong there.
Even during NFL games announcers love to say X was wide open. Typically the aren't open for starters as the announcer can't read coverage but when they are it wasn't a presnap mistake or the read.
 
Maybe. But Bill Snyder Just as a guess:

Maybe he plays the Bill Snyder way of football. Doesn't have to be flashy. Just go out there and do your job.
Perhaps. I just thought that it was some kind of weird flex, being that he transferred to a program that has a greater winning mentality than K State.

And Bill Snyder hasn't been at K State for 5 years and never coached Will Howard to my knowledge.

I guess I'm just not a fan Gus and Klattz .....
 
What are you talking about? You all believe there's always someone open as though a QB is reading all 5 routes instantly. Warren was the first read. There was pressure. He did nothing wrong there.
Even during NFL games announcers love to say X was wide open. Typically the aren't open for starters as the announcer can't read coverage but when they are it wasn't a presnap mistake or the read.
The middle of the field was "wide open" which you could see before the snap. Not even a LB in site. Allar was looking at the wide open field prior to the snap!
 
The middle of the field was "wide open" which you could see before the snap. Not even a LB in site. Allar was looking at the wide open field prior to the snap!
My head hurts...he had man coverage across the field. Warren wasn't doubled. Warren was his first read. He had pressure and got the ball, correctly, to his first read for a contested catch. A no deep safety look doesn't mean you target the middle. You target the best player against man. We have one guy capable of consistently meeting man.
 
My head hurts...he had man coverage across the field. Warren wasn't doubled. Warren was his first read. He had pressure and got the ball, correctly, to his first read for a contested catch. A no deep safety look doesn't mean you target the middle. You target the best player against man. We have one guy capable of consistently meeting man.
If your head hurts, go out and get "laid" and stop with this ridiculous imitation you try to convey as some expert. How did the fade turn out. He had Evens open streaking to the goal line!
 
If your head hurts, go out and get "laid" and stop with this ridiculous imitation you try to convey as some expert. How did the fade turn out. He had Evens open streaking to the goal line!
Lol...see this is the amazing expertise I'm accustomed from you. A pass being incomplete doesn't mean it's the wrong decision. A guy being open elsewhere doesn't mean it was a miss. I blame announcers for your ignorance here. You have no clue what you're talking about
 
Lol...see this is the amazing expertise I'm accustomed from you. A pass being incomplete doesn't mean it's the wrong decision. A guy being open elsewhere doesn't mean it was a miss. I blame announcers for your ignorance here. You have no clue what you're talking about
And, you know what you're talking about. Please provide me with you qualifications to be an offensive expert? Completely "wide open" middle of the field with no one around. Allar in the shotgun and should have seen this easily. The fastest player on the field streaking on a post route with his man beat, and Allar throws to deep in the corner of the end zone with a defender all over him.

That is common sense for a QB; you don't have to be some "TV Expert" like yourself to figure out he threw to the wrong player.
 
And, you know what you're talking about. Please provide me with you qualifications to be an offensive expert? Completely "wide open" middle of the field with no one around. Allar in the shotgun and should have seen this easily. The fastest player on the field streaking on a post route with his man beat, and Allar throws to deep in the corner of the end zone with a defender all over him.

That is common sense for a QB; you don't have to be some "TV Expert" like yourself to figure out he threw to the wrong player.
You're wrong about so much here. His read presnap was pressure and man. That read was correct. Man against you with no help means your first read is Warren. He had Warren one on one and took the shot. He can't see all 5 guys at the same time even in the gun. No QB can. The last guy he's looking for is the worst route runner even if he's the fastest guy. No coach or even a fan with adequate knowledge is going to say he did something wrong there. Just guys that think every time a guy is allegedly open (usually they aren't especially in zone) that the QB should have been psychic and knew that when it wasn't the read or design.
 
You haven't provided your qualifications to be an expert other than watching TV. You think you are some kind of offensive expert, yet you are just a TV watcher who thinks he is a an OC.

3rd down and 9 and Allar throws a "4 yard" out route to Warren who he is obsessed with. Ended up 4th down and 5.

Evans streaking across a wide open middle of the field and Allar throws to the back of the end zone, real smart.
 
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You haven't provided your qualifications to be an expert other than watching TV. You think you are some kind of offensive expert, yet you are just a TV watcher who thinks he is a an OC.

3rd down and 9 and Allar throws a "4 yard" out route to Warren who he is obsessed with. Ended up 4th down and 5.

Evans streaking across a wide open middle of the field and Allar throws to the back of the end zone, real smart.
This is further evidence that you have no clue what you're seeing. I love when people make the argument for me.
 
You haven't provided your qualifications to be an expert other than watching TV. You think you are some kind of offensive expert, yet you are just a TV watcher who thinks he is a an OC.

3rd down and 9 and Allar throws a "4 yard" out route to Warren who he is obsessed with. Ended up 4th down and 5.

Evans streaking across a wide open middle of the field and Allar throws to the back of the end zone, real smart.

Biggest knock on Drew is that he makes the wrong throw sometimes and makes no throw other times hanging onto the ball way too long when he has plenty of time to at least get rid of the ball in the area of an eligible receiver instead of taking a massive loss. Both of these point to taking too long to scan the field, make all the reads and finally incorporate all the information... make a decisive decision (even if it's just getting rid of the ball) and getting the ball out. This includes assessing when a play is blown up and either getting it to a safety valve or getting rid of it in a way that won't draw a flag (i.e., get outside pocket and throw away or throw away near an eligible receiver). IMHO, Drew seems to need too much time which will hurt his NFL draft status as you have to be able to get rid of the ball in less than 2.5 seconds (with the proper decision) on an every play basis when you need to... - you can't count on perfect protection on every play, but you still have to make great decisions consistently based on a complete read of the field inside 2.5 seconds regardless of less than perfect protection. Drew seems to eat the ball (or miss wide-open receivers) too often which is a remnant of needing too much time to fully assess the field and make decisions based on that assessment. Not a knock on Drew, he's a very good QB - the intangible that allows some QBs to make quick reads, consistency make great decisions and get the ball out in <2.5 seconds when required and whenever they need to... is what has always separated "The Greats" from the guys who have all the measurables, throw a great ball, etc... Nobody has ever been able to define the intangible, but I believe a lot of it has to do with the abilities related to "pre-snap" reads and the ability to anticipate what is going to happen right after the snap (where to look first based on what you're seeing pre-snap and synthesizing that anticipation with what transpires directly after the snap.... etc....).
 
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