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Inquirer, DN sue for Sandusky settlement records

They are just looking to pin more JVP and football!
Newspapers are a business- what they are looking for is a profit. With Internet news so easily obtained, the business model for traditional printed newspapers is obsolete. The news media is scrambling for relevance in today's world and will seize any opportunity to gain readership in order to sell their advertising. Unfortunately this results in sensational unresponsble reporting. The "truth" is a secondary motive to circulation. People don't want to read the details, they just want to know if Paterno did it.
 
Any lawyers want to weigh in on a precedent for this request. Seems like a loser argument to me and would like to know if a judge has ever made settlements like these public.
 
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yup..if any of this info gets released, bet the house that they will look for any person who claimed Joe knew...and that will be the headlines. No fact checking, no acknowledging that this is just one person saying this and theres no proof, it wont matter.
 
The reason that was put in about TSM was so PSU could sue or recoup some of the payout money from TSM. Never mind the fact that TSM doors were already locked, papers shredded, and basically nonexistent. I'm not sure if that is PSUs official stance, but that's how that situation was explained to me and you can bet that will he their reasoning if questioned.
Of course it will be - actually it is not "will be", they have been spewing that line all along

Just like with the circle-jerk BS from guys like GTASCA - - no matter how many times they say it, it doesn't make it any less "stupid".
 
Be careful what you wish for.

Is that you Ira?

Want to tell us why, as Chair of the Legal Subcommittee, you failed to inform the ENTIRE Board of your machinations?

You already threw Peetzie under the bus when I chatted with you. You regretted how everything went down and wished you could have changed that.

You told me that Joe, Tim, Gary & Graham "knew" about Jerry - yet YOU were more intimately involved with Second Mile than any of those guys.

Conveniently all references to Second Mile have been scrubbed from your Board associations.

Now I wonder why a HIGH PROFILE & INFLUENTIAL Philadelphia businessman would take pains to remove their name from a Child Sex Offenders charity.
 
The reason that was put in about TSM was so PSU could sue or recoup some of the payout money from TSM. Never mind the fact that TSM doors were already locked, papers shredded, and basically nonexistent. I'm not sure if that is PSUs official stance, but that's how that situation was explained to me and you can bet that will he their reasoning if questioned.
Disagree. The pessimistic answer is it was put there to protect. TSM from lawsuits, leading to investigations of certain OGBOT members connections to TSM (and any financial malfeasance). The optimistic answer is PSU wanted this to go away, people to "move on," and suing TSM would rehash the Sandusky stuff in court and more importantly, perhaps, in the media where PSU would be dragged through the mud during EVERY trial. It would be like ripping a bandaid off the wound every time, with no control of the narrative. Imagine new victim trial after new victim trial.

I'd like to think some smart people in the room said its worth the money just to avoid the constant drum of negative press, with new details being released over months. However, some days I'm not sure they were that smart.

On paper that looks like a smart strategy. Notice how little has been made about TSM being indemnified in those agreements. Except by alumni. If that was the reasoning, no one anticipated the pushback from the alumni, and a refusal to move on.
 
I think it's very insensitive to the victims for these newspapers to sue to find out how much money these people got. Maybe they should think more about these victims than their bottom line in the advertising department and show some compassion.

Oh, shush! We at PSU are the only people authorized to be cast as insensitive in this entire ordeal.
 
They will use this to destroy Joe further. Bet on it.

I agree... someone on OGBOT set this latest "leak" to the media to keep the narrative and attention away from Mr.Lubrano... They will do this again to keep the spotlight and narrative on Joe and make it look as if it was all his fault. Someone on the OGBOT has close contacts with the press and is using the press to control the narrative as we get closer to the real truth and transparency
 
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The more I think about it, the more I believe that this will be a preemptive strike by Lubert and company, now that Lubrano et al have the settlement records themselves. Lubert couldn't give them to the Inquirer himself, so they need to go thru official channels. I wouldn't bet on the request getting denied.

The Inquirer will then write the story the way the BOT wants it written. Let's hope that Anthony beats them to the punch somehow.
 
Indeed. Outstanding. Lay it all out on the table.

"Given the interest in and concern about this case, I think it's very important that the judge makes these records public," said Stan Wischnowski, senior vice president of Philadelphia Media Network and executive editor of the Inquirer, the Daily News, and Philly.com. "Not only would it instill a high level of confidence in the judicial system. But it would also potentially get us closer to the truth in a matter of great public importance to the Commonwealth, its citizens and beyond."

Hear! Hear! Although it would take more than this for any informed member of our beloved Commonwealth to feel confidence in our judicial system, it would no doubt possibly get us closer to truths concerning this debacle.


If Joe looks worse will you blame the BOT?
 
The more I think about it, the more I believe that this will be a preemptive strike by Lubert and company, now that Lubrano et al have the settlement records themselves. Lubert couldn't give them to the Inquirer himself, so they need to go thru official channels. I wouldn't bet on the request getting denied.

The Inquirer will then write the story the way the BOT wants it written. Let's hope that Anthony beats them to the punch somehow.

Exactly... maybe it's the conspiracy theorist in me but someone on the OGBOT has been trying desperately to control the narrative and where the spotlights are aimed and off themselves. Using the press to control the narrative through leaks and ways to leave the door open for the media salivating and chasing the Joe fault narrative with them lapping it up like a fat kid loves cake....
 
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Truth. The real truth doesn't hurt Joe, but a BOT-slanted fabrication could and will make things look a lot worse for him.

These assholes don't get it. The Paterno suit is going to unmask all of this, in a court of law, in the news, under oath and in front of a judge.
 
Truth. The real truth doesn't hurt Joe, but a BOT-slanted fabrication could and will make things look a lot worse for him.

These assholes don't get it. The Paterno suit is going to unmask all of this, in a court of law, in the news, under oath and in front of a judge.

The BoT Nuts are all clowns. They love the lies and Joe attacks. Assholes.
 
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So you think JVP couldn't look worse? Think again. If its established that abuse reports were made to him in the 70s which he ignored you can forget about resurrecting the statue, forget about an "Honor Joe" day, forget about "Paterno Field at Beaver Stadium", forget about Peachy Paterno ice cream, and say adios to Paterno Library. That would be game, set, and match.

So, yes, it could get a lot worse. I hope it doesn't.
 
Zwick, even in your wildest dreams, do you really think the authentic truth could make Joe look worse? If you really believe that, it's no surprise that Kathleen Kane spurned your overtures of love.


I could say the same about the BOT. You seem to think one will will worse but the other will suddenly look great. Probably Won't happen. They will both go the same direction.
 
I could say the same about the BOT. You seem to think one will will worse but the other will suddenly look great. Probably Won't happen. They will both go the same direction.

I have no doubt that some people are going to look worse when this is all over. I am also firmly convinced that Joe shouldn't be one of them. There is a huge concerted effort to trash him: if the dirt on him truly existed, they wouldn't need to bother to attack him so fervently. Given that he is the sole focus of their attacks, it is very reasonable to assume that they fear the truth about him coming out.

They aren't attacking Curley or Schultz or Bradley or Spanier, are they? Nope, because those guys are alive, and if they lie about them, they are eventually getting their asses sued off. So, these cowards heroically attack the dead guy, who can't sue them. They are using Joe to cover their own asses, and it is despicable, and ultimately it will fail.
 
So you think JVP couldn't look worse? Think again. If its established that abuse reports were made to him in the 70s which he ignored you can forget about resurrecting the statue, forget about an "Honor Joe" day, forget about "Paterno Field at Beaver Stadium", forget about Peachy Paterno ice cream, and say adios to Paterno Library. That would be game, set, and match.

So, yes, it could get a lot worse. I hope it doesn't.


F'ing liar. You hope it does get worse, and you spew that sort of venom every day. There's no dirt on Joe. They may manufacture some, in the hope that it will shift the spotlight away from them, but it won't work. The Paterno suit will make sure that all of this stuff eventually sees the light of day. And if you don't think so, then explain to me why your BOT butt buddies seem so goddamned scared???
 
The reason that was put in about TSM was so PSU could sue or recoup some of the payout money from TSM. Never mind the fact that TSM doors were already locked, papers shredded, and basically nonexistent. I'm not sure if that is PSUs official stance, but that's how that situation was explained to me and you can bet that will he their reasoning if questioned.
Oh, they've been existent. Right up until recently, with an "anonymous" Board of Directors as well. There was that little question of about $2M in assets they almost immediately sought to hide away in another corporation based in MY state. And $1.8M spent on bulldozing to basically push around dirt all during the "investigation". (Check/analyze the 990 forms like Ray did). You should really read the Dissolution case in the Orphan's Court. I've been watchdogging it since the shredder truck sighting and so have a few others. http://centrecountypa.gov/index.aspx?NID=506

Don't be fooled by the start date of 08/2012. Dig into it, as Wendy has said, it started within about 6 weeks of the distraction of the PSU "Perp Walk" Press Conference.

This is where the media should have been circling like vultures if they cared one little bit about the welfare of children being "served" under the auspices of The Second Mile/Arrow Ministries of TEXAS, (Maryland, California, Pennsylvania, etc.) Media editor's answers when asked about it? We covered it here: (provide old and moldy links that barely skim the surface).

Another thing media SHOULD have been digging into are who is their insurer (Federal out of Warren, NJ , under the umbrella of Chubb), and what coverages their policy had. ( Did TSM have adequate coverages considering they were a youth-serving organization? ) If not, WHY NOT? Where are those State audits? Find the audit history by OAG and other state regulators.

TSM can still be sued thru the insurer.

MEDIA: Ask every single V/survivor attorney to explain in detail why they chose not to sue TSM and went for a PSU payout instead. Is PA's media AFRAID to ask the right questions? They ask for "comments" but never print the questions they are asking and which ones were answered and which were dodged. Why not?
 
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Think about this....they open the records and there is some info about certain people that the masses want protected....like the BoT and Corbutt did with the 2M. I am in the school of belief that there was more than one prominent person that liked messing with young boys....what if that comes out???
 
So you think JVP couldn't look worse? Think again. If its established that abuse reports were made to him in the 70s which he ignored you can forget about resurrecting the statue, forget about an "Honor Joe" day, forget about "Paterno Field at Beaver Stadium", forget about Peachy Paterno ice cream, and say adios to Paterno Library. That would be game, set, and match.

So, yes, it could get a lot worse. I hope it doesn't.
Who's behind that false face....
 
Think about this....they open the records and there is some info about certain people that the masses want protected....like the BoT and Corbutt did with the 2M. I am in the school of belief that there was more than one prominent person that liked messing with young boys....what if that comes out???
Then justice will have been served, no quarter asked, none given
 
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I doubt that this suit is going anywhere but why does it matter? What has the media done with the information they already have?

Here's the bigger question. The media already knows that the police and child protection agencies investigated 1998 and came up empty. So why do they blame Joe and PSU for what happened during that time? How many stories have you read that said forget Paterno, what's wrong with the child protection agencies? How many have you read that talked about a culture of corruption at TSM? After last week's shitstorm, how many wrote about how unlikely if would be that Paterno could have kept 3 different ADs and University Presidents (+ coaches and players) quiet for 40 years?

For the media outlets, this is like the gift that keeps on giving. While I have no analytics to support this claim, I would venture to say that JVP, PSU Football, JS, ect. garner heads and shoulders interested and revenue/views, clicks, etc. above any other story.

The media wants to bring the news, do they care about the outcomes? No! If this suite drives our (PSU Supports) emotionally charged, ravishing action, protect PSU, protect JVP, do they care? I don't think so.

Nothing will be better than the truth, but until then, staying quiet with a calm confidence; what we know to be true is the right course of action. If the media does not get clicks on the story, they will move on! Right now, we are playing into their hands! Stop It!
 
For the media outlets, this is like the gift that keeps on giving. While I have no analytics to support this claim, I would venture to say that JVP, PSU Football, JS, ect. garner heads and shoulders interested and revenue/views, clicks, etc. above any other story.

The media wants to bring the news, do they care about the outcomes? No! If this suite drives our (PSU Supports) emotionally charged, ravishing action, protect PSU, protect JVP, do they care? I don't think so.

Nothing will be better than the truth, but until then, staying quiet with a calm confidence; what we know to be true is the right course of action. If the media does not get clicks on the story, they will move on! Right now, we are playing into their hands! Stop It!

Don't count on the truth coming out. It's virtually impossible to prove that you didn't know about something, especially after you're dead.
 
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The bottom line to me is quite simple. If Joe knew about any of this and didn't act, then why in 01 all of a sudden did he? Why would he then follow up on it as well? If he did then he is Nixon with a mile wide ego and is a narcissist. He just didn't live or act that way. Calling bs on this.
 
Disagree. The pessimistic answer is it was put there to protect. TSM from lawsuits, leading to investigations of certain OGBOT members connections to TSM (and any financial malfeasance). The optimistic answer is PSU wanted this to go away, people to "move on," and suing TSM would rehash the Sandusky stuff in court and more importantly, perhaps, in the media where PSU would be dragged through the mud during EVERY trial. It would be like ripping a bandaid off the wound every time, with no control of the narrative. Imagine new victim trial after new victim trial.

I'd like to think some smart people in the room said its worth the money just to avoid the constant drum of negative press, with new details being released over months. However, some days I'm not sure they were that smart.

On paper that looks like a smart strategy. Notice how little has been made about TSM being indemnified in those agreements. Except by alumni. If that was the reasoning, no one anticipated the pushback from the alumni, and a refusal to move on.
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So you think JVP couldn't look worse? Think again. If its established that abuse reports were made to him in the 70s which he ignored you can forget about resurrecting the statue, forget about an "Honor Joe" day, forget about "Paterno Field at Beaver Stadium", forget about Peachy Paterno ice cream, and say adios to Paterno Library. That would be game, set, and match.

So, yes, it could get a lot worse. I hope it doesn't.
You cannot be serious. Is this another one of CR66's accounts?
 
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