Article: Penn State set for big recruiting advantage from house settlement
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Well I still say they need each other. Your Pitt example is interesting. They just had QB that the Steelers drafted.Was their attendence that year lot better? The pros have contracts, salary caps, slotted comp by position and draft round. College has every player on a one year contract, with unlimited free agency, and no salary caps and anyone can help pay the salaries.
At some point some sanity needs to re enter the picture.
I am going to the Penn State playoff game. It's the first one, my cousin had tickets available for the cover price, $180 apiece. But my parking pass I believe is $45. This is getting nuts so I don't go to games anymore. I might cherry pick one every now and then, I look at it like a concert ticket not a regular fall thing I do anymore.
I'm going to see two shows I'm looking forward to next year and I paid fairly big money for decent tickets. I'm in the second row for Aaron Lewis at the Wing Creek Center and I'm in the VIP section for Kid Rock at his rock the country tour in York Pennsylvania. My wife and I are gonna stay over for both and have a nice time.
Other shows we might go see usually involve a tribute band at a place that's a somewhat midsize venue like Pease Peak and Jim Thorpe, that's one of my favorite places to go. And a reason is the cost, if you see get the led for example you get a great Led Zeppelin show for roughly 40 something a ticket.
The ironic thing this is way more than you never pay to see Led Zeppelin went back in a day lol
One of the ironies of this whole debacle. It specifically is NOT pay for play so you can't fire them. It is so someone can use their name image or likeness. [sure thing]
I always thought that the original intent of NIL was for a football player to be paid for his name or likeness being put on a jersey or some other piece of clothing on which the school made money, or for appearing in a car commercial, etc. I never dreamed that it would devolve into boosters outright paying players just for verbally commiting, which is why SMU received the death penalty.
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You are so right. I know the courts will not allow limits to NIL but it seems to me something like this might be the beginning of some guardrails.
EXAMPLE ONLY
University funds allowed to be used. $20.5 million
Allowable NIL [could anything from 0 to xxx] let's use 4.5 million
Total NIL pot per school before adjustments $25.0 million
We know you can't limit outside NIL but why couldn't the NCAA or House of Reps or someone sane pass a law that says
any outside NIL money that takes the total over $25.0 will result in a dollar for dollar eduction of the allowable university money. That would make any NIL spent in excess of the allowable amount [in this example $4.5 million] "wasted money" for the next $20.5 million. If a collective wanted to spend $25 million the University would get $0.
Make that change and change the transfer rule back to sitting out 1 year unless HC changes, OR if you transfer you payback scholly money plus any University paid NIL . Those 2 changes IMO would start the return to sanity.
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I'm going back into the history of the NCAA. Had there maybe been more reasonable steps taken long ago- like Paterno's "pocket money" request for athletes- then maybe things wouldn't have accelerated so quickly.
The O'Bannon case made it clear that the NCAA shouldn't be able to profit on players' Name, Image and Likeness without some compensation parameters. The NCAA using Ed O'Bannon's name and skill set in a video game is not just selling a UCLA #31 basketball jersey.
My first gut reaction was that some top players may get paid to do ads- but that most would still be "student-athletes" whose main compensation would be tuition plus room and board.
To fast forward to Underwood getting $10 million to sign, and Bill B/Dean Lombardi going to Chapel Hill as Head Coach/GM with intents to run a Pro Model team is crazy.
But it all goes back to the NCAA not following a basic rule of Wall Street:
Pigs Get Slaughtered.
That's how- in my opinion, the NCAA screwed the pooch and mismanaged what is now called NIL but really is pay for play.
I agree. Not sure how they rein it in now. It also seems there is little value placed on the cost of a full scholarship and all that entails.
Name any professional non-NFL league that generates revenue anything close to CFB.
This is a nonsense question. Why would PSU suddenly become a 2-10 type team? Are they supposed to be an outlier and treat players differently than everyone else in CFB?
This is such a non-traditional business model. The 'employees' are participants for 3 to 5 years with a 25% influx of new 'employees' who have only tangentially approved the terms and conditions that they are playing under.
How often should the terms be permitted to be renegotiated because of the consistent planned turnover of the 'workforce' players.
I could go on and on as it is a very complex problem. So many fractionalized interests, revenues, conferences, university policies, etc.
The premise of the post that I was responding to was that it is the school and the uniform, not the players, that bring in the money so the players should not expect to be paid. The point I was making is that quality of the players is absolutely the reason people pay to go to CFB games and they should be paid.
I'll repeat myself. they need each other.
. 99% of fans could care less who is PSU QB as long as we win, so from that standpoint we really are supporting the school and uniform
. On the other hand PSU needs good players no matter who they are to fill 106,000 seats.
They are co-dependent
I didn’t make a comment about the players being paid or not being paid.
If the players in all of CFB were of a lower talent level (say FCS), but teams’ success rates were all relatively the same as now, there would be a negligible to nominal drop in attendance, if any.
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