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Football Drew Allar set to return to Penn State in 2025

Could you repeat that last line, one ... more ... time!
Anything to erase the fact that he was so certain that Allar would not return. Told us stupid masses again and again. As if he had inside sources or some other way to know this absolutely.

I'd say that @LandoComando has lost some serious credibility on this one.

But did he ever have credibility?
 
How can you blame Franklin? He historically has encouraged kids he thought were ready to move on! Do you have insider info?
Blame isn't the right word but there's a huge difference between an elite QB and any other position.
 
Anything to erase the fact that he was so certain that Allar would not return. Told us stupid masses again and again. As if he had inside sources or some other way to know this absolutely.

I'd say that @LandoComando has lost some serious credibility on this one.

But did he ever have credibility?
Kids make bad decisions sometimes. If that hurts my credibility so be it. We'll see if he changes his mind the next few weeks.
 
If Allar was rated as a 2nd round or lower draft pick this year, then returning and playing himself into the 1st round next year makes all the financial sense in the world, especially with NIL and income loss insurance purchased in case of career threatening injury.
 
He himself obviously doesn't feel that he's NFL ready now, and I have to believe that his family and he consulted with NFL executives who probably told them that he's not NFL ready now.

The NFL is notable for destroying college football QB talent. If Allar is not literally 100% confident, there is a chance it will eat him too. My feeling is that he's playing a long game. Good for him.
 
Here are my unsolicited thoughts:
#1 - I am happy for me.
#2 - Get on phone right now for 2 WRs with 1 year of eligibility left and get them in for a visit.
#3 - A couple more players on Defense and we should be good to go for 2025. Need 1 or 2 DTS.....hoping that Ford can play in the playoffs and next year at DT.
#4 - Nice to have perhaps the best QB in college football starting for us in State College with a second year under the same OC.
Wasn't FORD classified "long term injury" by CJF? Coded speech for done for the season.
 
Wonderful news and a win-win for both Allar and Penn State. Drew would not have been a 1st-round pick this year. Next year? Hopefully a different story.

Sorry we lose Beau in the deal. If making the call before the playoff game was the better choice for him personally, given his options, it's hard to blame him. It's clear as a bell that his decision was dictated by knowledge of Drew's plan to return.

Seriously, the name of the game now is look-out-for-Number-One. Coaches too, to include Franklin...check the record. Drew. Beau. Everybody. Nobody's falling on his sword for the honor and glory of universities whose top priority is money.
 
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Does this mean that Coach AK committed to staying at least one more year? I know he turned down the WVU job (at least based on reports I read). However, other offers could crop up after the championship run. I can't imagine Allar would make this decision without that commitment from AK. So that's good news for us on two major fronts. Allar and AK will be here for the 2025 season!

We will not replace Warren, he's not only a great TE, but super athletic and versatile like no one else. We have many great options at TE and we'll be fine, just not at Warren's level. AK's strength as an OC is playing to the strength of his players. He will find another player (beyond Allar) that adds the wrinkles and headaches for opposing DC's :)
 
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I never said there weren't multiple ways to create matchups. However, you said "I don't care about the matchups."
Lol I didn't mean all matchups, just the pretend ones when Drew is split out wide or on the sidelines. I understand the short yardage and goal line situations when we're actually trying to gain an advantage like having an extra blocker. It's when we just gained 40 yards in 5 plays and then we suddenly split Drew out wide as though we need to mix things up. That's not creating matchups. That's throwing off our offense that was just rolling along, all because we need to appease our backup QB who might leave at the end of the year.
 
I feel like the RB group will be fine. There’s a strong room with young men waiting for their opportunity.

You don’t replace Warren, but TE will again be a plus position.

QB will only improve. Question is whether backup QB will be as strong. Beau was awesome at Wisconsin. Had a great couple of runs vs Oregon in big situations, was on the field a lot all season, and could be counted on to lead the team to victory if needed.
 
Yeah, except top 10 rookie contracts are 30-40mil. About 2x as much as mid to late first rounders.
Sure. I guess weigh that big rookie deal likely with a terrible team vs a decent team (mid to late 1st round) that just needs a new qb. I would argue that a qb is much more set for success picked by a good team. And more likely to be around for the big second deal.
 
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Sure. I guess weigh that big rookie deal likely with a terrible team vs a decent team (mid to late 1st round) that just needs a new qb. I would argue that a qb is much more set for success picked by a good team. And more likely to be around for the big second deal.

We can collectively list 30 decent QB prospects who didn't make it in the NFL. As you note, some of it is luck of the draw. Daniel Jones and Mac Jones to speak of recently. Go back to Joey Harrington, Heath Schuler, Ryan Leaf.................. The window only opens an inch, and they have to make the best of it. Not easy.
 
We can collectively list 30 decent QB prospects who didn't make it in the NFL. As you note, some of it is luck of the draw. Daniel Jones and Mac Jones to speak of recently. Go back to Joey Harrington, Heath Schuler, Ryan Leaf.................. The window only opens an inch, and they have to make the best of it. Not easy.
Danny Dimes got paid--very worth it
Do you believe going back to school would have helped any of them?
 
Danny Dimes got paid--very worth it
Do you believe going back to school would have helped any of them?

You will never know. All we know is that they didn't make it.

The long game. People way smarter than you play it.
 
Danny Dimes got paid--very worth it
Do you believe going back to school would have helped any of them?
I don't agree with the first or early second round projections for Allar. Yes, he has the physical tools, but he has not performed well against our toughest opponents. Actually, the whole team and the coaches under performed along with Allar, so I don't blame just him. Still the pro scouts haven't seen him win a big game - yet.
 
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I don't agree with the first or early second round projections for Allar. Yes, he has the physical tools, but he has not performed well against our toughest opponents. Actually, the whole team and the coaches under performed along with Allar, so I don't blame just him. Still the pro scouts haven't seen him win a big game - yet.
We completely disagree--any scout that watches him against Oregon is pushing him to go in the top 10
Imagine not having a decent WR and having the success he is--watch the throw in the 4th quarter with a defender on him
He was great against USC and Oregon--he was almost perfect against Wisconsin--against Ohio State he was fine. Wallace dropped a TD which was his only pick.
 
Here are my unsolicited thoughts:
#1 - I am happy for me.
#2 - Get on phone right now for 2 WRs with 1 year of eligibility left and get them in for a visit.
#3 - A couple more players on Defense and we should be good to go for 2025. Need 1 or 2 DTS.....hoping that Ford can play in the playoffs and next year at DT.
#4 - Nice to have perhaps the best QB in college football starting for us in State College with a second year under the same OC.
Ok good job we got 1 stud WR, let’s get another.

Beau who???
 
We completely disagree--any scout that watches him against Oregon is pushing him to go in the top 10
Imagine not having a decent WR and having the success he is--watch the throw in the 4th quarter with a defender on him
He was great against USC and Oregon--he was almost perfect against Wisconsin--against Ohio State he was fine. Wallace dropped a TD which was his only pick.
So you communicate with NFL scouts on a regular basis? You don’t think Allar has been given draft grades by scouts? I know you know better than everybody else. Allar has all the tools, but lacks emotional maturity. Clearly he and his parents see that and know he would benefit from another year. Franklin has slowly brought Drew along and is just starting to let him loose. The USC game was a perfect example of Drew literally growing up in a game. Him crying and hugging Franklin after the game showed how much he trusts and appreciates Franklin. Throwing a 20 year old kid to the sharks before he’s ready is a huge mistake and could ruin him. I think it’s a smart decision that was carefully made by Drew and his parents. Of course to you turning pro is the only choice and Drew and his parents are morons. As a parent I applaud his parents for being more concerned about Drew’s well being and growth as a person rather than quick cash.
 
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Beau leaving just made life easier for the SMU defensive coordinator.

Maybe, maybe not. They defend a mobile QB in practice daily. And nothing that Beau did is drastically different than anything 60% of cfb teams do. It's not the Triple Option that requires assignment sound defense.
 
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Maybe, maybe not. They defend a mobile QB in practice daily. And nothing that Beau did is drastically different than anything 60% of cfb teams do. It's not the Triple Option that requires assignment sound defense.
Are you saying that SMU will be ready for the Omari package? Because they might see that a couple times.
 
So you communicate with NFL scouts on a regular basis? You don’t think Allar has been given draft grades by scouts? I know you know better than everybody else. Allar has all the tools, but lacks emotional maturity. Clearly he and his parents see that and know he would benefit from another year. Franklin has slowly brought Drew along and is just starting to let him loose. The USC game was a perfect example of Drew literally growing up in a game. Him crying and hugging Franklin after the game showed how much he trusts and appreciates Franklin. Throwing a 20 year old kid to the sharks before he’s ready is a huge mistake and could ruin him. I think it’s a smart decision that was carefully made by Drew and his parents. Of course to you turning pro is the only choice and Drew and his parents are morons. As a parent I applaud his parents for being more concerned about Drew’s well being and growth as a person rather than quick cash.
I think it's insulting that you believe he lacks emotional maturity when that's clearly untrue.
Last year, you and others complained that he had no emotion--now he's too emotional.
Allar has fire and passion which is good for a QB--at no time was there a lack of emotional intelligence/maturity. Not once.
This isn't about "quick cash" either--staying is quick cash too. I've explained many times why this is a mistake so I won't waste your time repeating that but nothing here alter that
And, yes, as Dylan said "possibly first round pick". at worst--he's an early day 2 guy.
 
Are you saying that SMU will be ready for the Omari package? Because they might see that a couple times.

What is the Omari package? Lol

He truthfully could probably do the Beau plays as well (former HS QB), but I'd be fine if we save those for Warren.

Or do you mean the Go route and Post route off play action? Definitely his forté.
 
What is the Omari package? Lol

He truthfully could probably do the Beau plays as well (former HS QB), but I'd be fine if we save those for Warren.

Or do you mean the Go route and Post route off play action? Definitely his forté.
Yup, I mean lining Omari up at QB running the Beau plays. I'm sure he hasn't been throwing the ball much but he has the speed and the previous experience. It sure sounds like Franklin wants to hand that package to somebody.
 
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Yup, I mean lining Omari up at QB running the Beau plays. I'm sure he hasn't been throwing the ball much but he has the speed and the previous experience. It sure sounds like Franklin wants to hand that package to somebody.
Please God no with this--Warren if anyone
 
It sure sounds like Franklin wants to hand that package to somebody.

Oh wow, really? Did he say that today? Haven't listened to the PC.

JF loves having a battering ram who can slip tackles run the ball from QB. Stevens. Levis. Beau. Even Clifford he altered his skill set to do it.
 
Oh wow, really? Did he say that today? Haven't listened to the PC.

JF loves having a battering ram who can slip tackles run the ball from QB. Stevens. Levis. Beau. Even Clifford he altered his skill set to do it.
I forget the exact words but it sure sounded like it. Omari isn't a big guy but he would satisfy most of the requirements.

I can picture Franklin asking Omari to be Kevin Jennings on the scout team and then having that little light bulb light up when he makes our defense look silly a couple times. OK, probably didn't happen but I wouldn't be shocked to see an Omari package.
 
Oh wow, really? Did he say that today? Haven't listened to the PC.

JF loves having a battering ram who can slip tackles run the ball from QB. Stevens. Levis. Beau. Even Clifford he altered his skill set to do it.
Which is why Warren would be perfect. Anybody JF lines up at qb besides Drew is going to run a running play. The threat of a pass is all but gone.
 
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Him not needing money isn't reason to stay
Dave hit on it. Allar loves Franklin and there's no doubt in my mind he's allowing that to impact him
There's zero logic in announcing this now. I'd believe less emotion was involved after the season ends.
The logic was courtesy to Pribula which is something you would never understand. Maybe you should track Allar down and tell him Mr. Always Right thinks you are wrong.
 
Kids make bad decisions sometimes. If that hurts my credibility so be it. We'll see if he changes his mind the next few weeks.
No what hurts your credibility is that you never concede that you are wrong about anything and then double and triple down on your stupidity when others call you on it.
 
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I think it's insulting that you believe he lacks emotional maturity when that's clearly untrue.
Last year, you and others complained that he had no emotion--now he's too emotional.
Allar has fire and passion which is good for a QB--at no time was there a lack of emotional intelligence/maturity. Not once.
This isn't about "quick cash" either--staying is quick cash too. I've explained many times why this is a mistake so I won't waste your time repeating that but nothing here alter that
And, yes, as Dylan said "possibly first round pick". at worst--he's an early day 2 guy.
Just stop already. We know your opinion. You believe he should go pro. No need to repeat it 1000 times in one thread. If you were truly a PSU fan, you would be happy and hope it turns out great for him. Quit dwelling on your tired take and move forward. The decision has been made so be happy for him and the team. It is his life, not your’s.
 
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