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Football Drew Allar set to return to Penn State in 2025

This was pretty much announced yesterday with the Beau portal.

Pretty much expected since he is only 20 yrs old. Another year will do him good.
Exactly, Drew is a good kid, and probably did not want to see Beau twisting in the wind so he let everyone know he was coming back. This was a pretty strong rumor on one of the other boards that he was returning not long ago.
 
We need Singleton back but not sure that will happen. Reynolds has a shot to be like Friermuth but not Warren. Hopefully this news attracts a high end WR or two or three from the portal. Maybe Denmark can emerge. I still think Hagans needs to be fired after our playoff run. Franklin and AK have to be eyeing options.
I have a feeling that Singleton also will return; the running back group should be great next season.
 
Who's he throwing the ball to next year?
He's NFL ready right now--"possibly first round pick" per Dylan
He started 2 years--most NFL QBs started 2 or less
Very few started for 3.
He himself obviously doesn't feel that he's NFL ready now, and I have to believe that his family and he consulted with NFL executives who probably told them that he's not NFL ready now.
 
I have a feeling that Singleton also will return; the running back group should be great next season.
I think Allen stays (good college player not quite fast enough for the NFL), but I would doubt Singleton stays.
 
I was wrong on him entering the draft because he's not making a logical decision.
You don't know that he's making an illogical decision. He might have been offered $1.5 million to stay. He might want to finish up his degree. He probably has insurance that will pay off if he's injured.

I've seen him projected to go anywhere from #1 QB to #7 QB which is a big difference.
 
We need Singleton back but not sure that will happen. Reynolds has a shot to be like Friermuth but not Warren. Hopefully this news attracts a high end WR or two or three from the portal. Maybe Denmark can emerge. I still think Hagans needs to be fired after our playoff run. Franklin and AK have to be eyeing options.
When you say "hopefully" or "a shot" those are reasons he can't come back. This is all risk. Fleming was our big get last year. How'd that play out?

If Drew's happy I'm happy for him. Why none of you comprehend how much of a risk is involved here is dumbfounding
 
He himself obviously doesn't feel that he's NFL ready now, and I have to believe that his family and he consulted with NLF executives who probably told them that he's not NFL ready now.
He obviously didn’t talk to Lando, the most important resource he could have used and obviously did not.
 
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You don't know that he's making an illogical decision. He might have been offered $1.5 million to stay. He might want to finish up his degree. He probably has insurance that will pay off if he's injured.

I've seen him projected to go anywhere from #1 QB to #7 QB which is a big difference.
All of this things are illogical...1.5M is nothing for a second contract, he can always get a degree and may already have his and insurance doesn't give you the career your losing back.

He's not QB7....he's at worst 4 likely 3 could be 1 or 2 with a good run
 
From my experience, the people who blame Franklin tend to be tunnel vision with their blame. The ones who defend him tend to be the same way, just on the other end of the spectrum.

Franklin isn't faultless, but nobody has a 4th year 2nd string QB unless he isn't drawing interest as a starter elsewhere. This is just the business side of things. We were lucky Beau didn't hit the portal last December, but honestly he put out better film under AK and probably will be making visits before the weeks out.
He may have a deal already in the bag.
 
When you say "hopefully" or "a shot" those are reasons he can't come back. This is all risk. Fleming was our big get last year. How'd that play out?

If Drew's happy I'm happy for him. Why none of you comprehend how much of a risk is involved here is dumbfounding
Maybe he sees young receivers in practice and also knows about portal receivers coming that neither you nor I see or know about; he's obviously not making this decision in a vacuum. Why would he proverbally cut off his nose to spite his face; he's probably staying for several reasons, including believing that he will have a very good team to lead next season.
 
He may have a deal already in the bag.

Very well possible. Waiting for his next step. We can assume more then, but right now I'm leaning towards "Beau expected Allar to turn pro, Allar decided to return" hence he's looking.
 
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All of this things are illogical...1.5M is nothing for a second contract, he can always get a degree and may already have his and insurance doesn't give you the career your losing back.

He's not QB7....he's at worst 4 likely 3 could be 1 or 2 with a good run
Blah blah blah. Go run your fantasy football team which is likely in 7th place in your 8 team league. You’re wasting our time.
 
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Maybe he sees young receivers in practice and also knows about portal receivers coming that neither you nor I see or know about; he's obviously not making this decision in a vacuum.
Then they'd be playing now
People don't always make logical decisions. His life. Hopefully he doesn't see a fall like countless others have that returned when they shouldn't have. Simply not worth the risk but thrilled to have him.
 
if Allar went pro next year he'd be just 21.5 years old at the start of the NFL season. I don't care how good you are, that is young to be playing QB in the NFL. There is a lot on a QBs shoulders. I think it's smart for him to come back. If he was an RB or WR it'd be a different story.

If he makes it big in the NFL then he'll make so much money that losing that one year won't hurt. OTOH if he comes out too early and makes it less big or not big at all as a result of coming out too young then he'll lose a lot of money.

The only risk is injury next year. He should buy a nice injury insurance policy for fall 2025, just in case. He can afford it with his NIL money.
It would not surprise me that Drew is getting an uptick in his NIL money and Penn State has agreed to pay for the insurance policy.
 
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He'd be better off listening to me but most people would
If he was told "possibly a first round pick" and is coming back he's doing it out of emotion not logic--if he just wants to be a kid a little while longer that's great but this is a bad business decision.
Great for Penn State. Great for Franklin. Horrible for Drew
Who's he throwing the ball to next year?
The only wide out they lose is Fleming. Wallace, Clifford and Evan’s will be back. There is also the portal as well as the possibility of one of the freshmen on the team stepping up like say Denmark. The tight end room is loaded and I wouldn’t be surprised to see both backs return next year.

I’m more worried about what we lose on Defense than what we will have on offense.
 
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Thrilled for us--think he's getting awful advice
We want him to play 4 games like a first rounder, but if he does this and becomes a likely first round QB, can he really stay and risk injury or a less than stellar year? The obvious answer seems to be "no".
 
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The only wide out they lose is Fleming. Wallace, Clifford and Evan’s will be back. There is also the portal as well as the possibility of one of the freshmen on the team stepping up like say Denmark. The tight end room is loaded and I wouldn’t be surprised to see both backs return next year.

I’m more worried about What else on Defense than what we will have on offense.
Are those WRs coming back a good thing?
I'm very worried about the pass game next year but hopefully you're right
 
And here it is. The reason Beau is leaving.
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if Allar went pro next year he'd be just 21.5 years old at the start of the NFL season. I don't care how good you are, that is young to be playing QB in the NFL. There is a lot on a QBs shoulders. I think it's smart for him to come back. If he was an RB or WR it'd be a different story.

If he makes it big in the NFL then he'll make so much money that losing that one year won't hurt. OTOH if he comes out too early and makes it less big or not big at all as a result of coming out too young then he'll lose a lot of money.

The only risk is injury next year. He should buy a nice injury insurance policy for fall 2025, just in case. He can afford it with his NIL money.

Drew is going to make a whole lot of money by coming back. I am talking millions between whatever PSU pays him and his NIL.
 
The only wide out they lose is Fleming. Wallace, Clifford and Evan’s will be back. There is also the portal as well as the possibility of one of the freshmen on the team stepping up like say Denmark. The tight end room is loaded and I wouldn’t be surprised to see both backs return next year.

I’m more worried about What else on Defense than what we will have on offense.
I agree; with Allar's return, I expect the offense to be just as good as if not better than this year's offense, even with Warren's loss. You just can't replace the experience that Allar will bring to games next season; he'll have seen it all and should know how to manage games as well as any qb in the country.
 
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Very well possible. Waiting for his next step. We can assume more then, but right now I'm leaning towards "Beau expected Allar to turn pro, Allar decided to return" hence he's looking.
"Beau expected Allar to turn pro, Allar decided to return" hence he's looking.
Most definitely, however people were pissed that he was not waiting around till after the playoffs, if he already has a landing spot, then his future team may want him there asap.
 
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He'd be better off listening to me but most people would
If he was told "possibly a first round pick" and is coming back he's doing it out of emotion not logic--if he just wants to be a kid a little while longer that's great but this is a bad business decision.
Great for Penn State. Great for Franklin. Horrible for Drew
Who's he throwing the ball to next year?
How do you actually know that he is making a decision on emotions ? Were you in his house with his parents possibly having dinner with them during a very personal decision making process ? Allar has plenty of very very high level people around him from College , NFL etc.. why this does make it an easier decision is NIL money.. in the past you could leave early staying purely financial.. but now they have an income… just hope we maintain a Healthy OL , Singleton comes back, Tight End produces and we get a couple kids out of the portal at WR…of course Drew’s announcement can certainly help any of those WR’s still on the “ fence” about coming to Penn State..
 
But Allar's played two years
I just don't see how this is a smart move at all for him. And we know all I care about is the player. I think he'll regret this but it's his life and his choice.
Happy for us--think it's a horrible move for him
Yeah, spending another year in college and getting a degree...so dumb!
 
The only wide out they lose is Fleming. Wallace, Clifford and Evan’s will be back. There is also the portal as well as the possibility of one of the freshmen on the team stepping up like say Denmark. The tight end room is loaded and I wouldn’t be surprised to see both backs return next year.

I’m more worried about What else on Defense than what we will have on offense.
Clifford took part on "Senior's Day" and doesn't appear to be coming back even though he is a RS Jr.

 
How do you actually know that he is making a decision on emotions ? Were you in his house with his parents possibly having dinner with them during a very personal decision making process ? Allar has plenty of very very high level people around him from College , NFL etc.. why this does make it an easier decision is NIL money.. in the past you could leave early staying purely financial.. but now they have an income… just hope we maintain a Healthy OL , Singleton comes back, Tight End produces and we get a couple kids out of the portal at WR…of course Drew’s announcement can certainly help any of those WR’s still on the “ fence” about coming to Penn State..
Him not needing money isn't reason to stay
Dave hit on it. Allar loves Franklin and there's no doubt in my mind he's allowing that to impact him
There's zero logic in announcing this now. I'd believe less emotion was involved after the season ends.
 
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And this is why returning is a mistake
Hopefully Luke Reynolds is Tyler Warren 2.0
Just curious- and an honest question..... what you do for a living (or have done) that would make me put any value in your opinion vs any other anonymous keyboard warrior with these hot takes?
 
Just curious- and an honest question..... what you do for a living (or have done) that would make me put any value in your opinion vs any other anonymous keyboard warrior with these hot takes?
Corporate attorney
I have plenty of experience with contracts at this level. This is a huge mistake on a business level. He knows that and is risking it like countless others have.
The risk doesn't trump the reward here
This is better for the staff than him obviously
 
Delaying the second contract absolutely makes those dumb. He can get a degree when his career is over if he wants
You do realize that there is no second contract if he doesn't play well, right? And you also realize that the second contract will be much better the more prepared he is while playing under his first contract...
 
You do realize that there is no second contract if he doesn't play well, right? And you also realize that the second contract will be much better the more prepared he is while playing under his first contract...
Well aware...returning doesn't increase those odds.
He's started for 2 years. Already at 26 games. May have as many as 30. That's plenty.
 
Corporate attorney
I have plenty of experience with contracts at this level. This is a huge mistake on a business level. He knows that and is risking it like countless others have.
The risk doesn't trump the reward here
This is better for the staff than him obviously
Your employers sure are getting their money’s worth.
 
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