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Football Drew Allar set to return to Penn State in 2025

You can spin this many ways but I doubt he is getting bad advice nor that the cupboard is bare talent wise. It means that Drew sees AK returning and talent as very strong for another CFP type season. He wants to put up NFL elite numbers and believes CJF can get it done. Huge statement for PSU's future. The transfer portal will take notice. I expect some big gets at WR.
 
Here are my unsolicited thoughts:
#1 - I am happy for me.
#2 - Get on phone right now for 2 WRs with 1 year of eligibility left and get them in for a visit.
#3 - A couple more players on Defense and we should be good to go for 2025. Need 1 or 2 DTS.....hoping that Ford can play in the playoffs and next year at DT.
#4 - Nice to have perhaps the best QB in college football starting for us in State College with a second year under the same OC.
 
Thrilled for us--think he's getting awful advice

Let's see how the playoff run goes, and what teams fall to a spot in the draft he might be taken.

Impossible to predict the future, but an extra year here might be preferable to landing with the Jets, Giants or Browns.
 
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In the playoffs? I wouldn't be shocked if it's Warren.
In recent weeks, Warren gradually took over most of the plays that Pribula would run when the first string still was in the game. The only issue is that the only passes that Warren has thrown this season probably have not gone over 5 years. Hopefully, it won't be an issue.
 
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He's not fully polished yet and the NFL hates to develop quarterbacks these days. A lot of "stay all four years" advice right now from those in the NFL when it comes to QBs. He was going to be a first round pick possibly this year, now he's in the conversation for first overall.
Hates is factually the wrong word. It’s “Can’t”. The newest rules for live practice during the season limits it to two hours. This is part of the effort to lessen head injury risk. There is zero time for QB2 snaps. The NFL no longer can develop them. The winning QB’s will mostly likely be those with loads of starts in college.

In the other hand, there is always an idiot GM willing to gamble on an Anthony Richardson.

And…..NIL makes it way easier for the QB to use college as the development engine and precisely what the NFL is hoping.
 
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Corporate attorney. Does your firm know how much time you spend on this board, all day, every day? Do you even work at all? Are you just as much of a know-it-all at work? You are so argumentative and contrarian, you are going to lose your job and your wife (if you actually have one). People like you simply do not get along with anyone because you are a horse's ass with a monster ego (you're never wrong, in your own mind and when you clearly are you just deflect it as something stupid someone else has done).

I bet you don't have a single friend in the world, which would explain your incessant posting where all you want to do is argue with people. There are others here like that but you are Patient Zero. Get lost.

Also, mods here (if there are any) suck. You exist only to fight with everyone and they still let it go. You're insane.

He is not a corporate attorney. Put him on ignore. He's desperate for attention ... nothing more.
 
In recent weeks, Warren gradually took over most of the plays that Pribula would run when the first string still was in the game. The only issue is that the only passes that Warren has thrown this season probably have not gone over 5 years. Hopefully, it won't be an issue.
The only problem with having Warren in the game as the QB is that TE Warren is no longer available as a receiver.

With Beau in as the QB, it provided AK with more options available making it hypothetically easier for our offense to confuse their D and create a splash play.

With Pribula no longer available, I'm not crazy about running the RPO with DA as Drew rarly keeps the ball and the D swarms to whomever the RB in the game is at the time.
 
The only problem with having Warren in the game as the QB is that TE Warren is no longer available as a receiver.

With Beau in as the QB, it provided AK with more options available making it hypothetically easier for our offense to confuse their D and create a splash play.

With Pribula no longer available, I'm not crazy about running the RPO with DA as Drew rarly keeps the ball and the D swarms to whomever the RB in the game is at the time.
I think the bigger issue with making Warren the #2 is that having him under center for short yardage and goal line situations is a lot different than 3rd and long or any obvious passing down. The defense is going to have it a lot easier if they know our TE is going to drop back to pass.
 
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I think the bigger issue with making Warren the #2 is that having him under center for short yardage and goal line situations is a lot different than 3rd and long or any obvious passing down. The defense is going to have it a lot easier if they know our TE is going to drop back to pass.
I guess I was speaking to having Warren take over the QB2 role that Beau provided for our offense this year.

Independent of Tyler's situational QB play on short yardage.
 
The only problem with having Warren in the game as the QB is that TE Warren is no longer available as a receiver.

With Beau in as the QB, it provided AK with more options available making it hypothetically easier for our offense to confuse their D and create a splash play.

With Pribula no longer available, I'm not crazy about running the RPO with DA as Drew rarly keeps the ball and the D swarms to whomever the RB in the game is at the time.
To tell you the truth, I'm perfectly fine with us just riding with Allar and running a regular offense and concentrating on our strengths rather than force feeding eye candy that often times doesn't work. I'm fine with them doing the designed runs for Warren that he's run all season because most of the time they've been very successful. However, we can overcome the six to eight plays that the Pribula package included by just trusting Allar to do what he's capable off; I mean, how ridiculous were those packages that had Allar split wide when Pribula would come in, and not once was a pass ever thrown to him, so basically we were playing with 10 players on offense?
 
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I guess I was speaking to having Warren take over the QB2 role that Beau provided for our offense this year.

Independent of Tyler's situational QB play on short yardage.
Gotcha. I thought you meant if Drew gets injured. God help us if we get to that point.
 
Gotcha. I thought you meant if Drew gets injured. God help us if we get to that point.
Agree. On the other hand, how many second-team QBs have led their teams to major bowl wins? It is like the NFL, why even have a second-team QB if it isn't just to develop a young player?
 
Gotcha. I thought you meant if Drew gets injured. God help us if we get to that point.
Well. if it gets to that point, it's over. It probably would've been over with Pribula too, although it just would've happened at a slower pace, and I say that as somebody who respected what he did for this program. The thing is that except for maybe Texas, you can say the same thing about any of the other teams in the playoffs too, and I still don't know if Manning could come in and beat a playoff team.
 
So you don't comprehend law firms...gotcha. employers lol
By corporate attorney I thought you meant legal counsel because the way you spend all day arguing in circles on a football message board you couldn’t possibly have clients. Simply not possible. And as a CPA I do comprehend billable hours, of which you have none. LOL
 
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To tell you the truth, I'm perfectly fine with us just riding with Allar and running a regular offense and concentrating on our strengths rather than force feeding eye candy that often times doesn't work. I'm fine with them doing the designed runs for Warren that he's run all season because most of the time they've been very successful. However, we can overcome the six to eight plays that the Pribula package included by just trusting Allar to do what he's capable off; I mean, how ridiculous were those packages that had Allar split wide when Pribula would come in, and not once was a pass ever thrown to him, so basically we were playing with 10 players on offense?
I've been asking for that the entire year. Get Drew in rhythm and keep him there. Our offense is damn good when he is dialed in, even without a game changing WR. Splitting him out wide just effs everything up. Franklin doesn't have to worry about appeasing Beau with playing time anymore so keep Drew under center. Please.
 
We need Singleton back but not sure that will happen. Reynolds has a shot to be like Friermuth but not Warren. Hopefully this news attracts a high end WR or two or three from the portal. Maybe Denmark can emerge. I still think Hagans needs to be fired after our playoff run. Franklin and AK have to be eyeing options.
Don't forget about TE Raplyea (sp?) who was ahead of Reynolds on the depth chart before his season ending injury. He was supposedly a better blocker than Reynlds and has good hands.
 
You don't know that he's making an illogical decision. He might have been offered $1.5 million to stay. He might want to finish up his degree. He probably has insurance that will pay off if he's injured.

I've seen him projected to go anywhere from #1 QB to #7 QB which is a big difference.
I know all these guys want to be the top of the draft. But looking at it from a team perspective, I'd rather be rated 6th or 7th. Far less chance of going to a team that is a mess and have a much better supporting cast. And maybe get a year or so learning behind a veteran.
 
And if you're possibly a first round pick you go...every time. Without a second thought.
I think he has people not looking out for his best interest in his head. I don't see us having the weapons next year for him to be successful
Honestly, do you think the offense is better next year?
I think this is great for Penn State--absolutely awful for the kid
Could you repeat that last line, one ... more ... time!
 
My guess is all OL that can return will return as well.

But I am with the previous poster.....they need to get 2 top flight WR right now.
 
I know all these guys want to be the top of the draft. But looking at it from a team perspective, I'd rather be rated 6th or 7th. Far less chance of going to a team that is a mess and have a much better supporting cast. And maybe get a year or so learning behind a veteran.
Yeah, except top 10 rookie contracts are 30-40mil. About 2x as much as mid to late first rounders.
 
Good for Allar.

As I've said before, he's going to be a good one, but later in the season I definitely saw some issues he needs to work on to get to that next level. Kid has an achievable high 1st round ceiling, and if he wasn't feeling that love from the draft world, it makes sense to come back and work on cleaning up those issues.

Selfishly, it's good to have him back. We could get one or both of the stud RBs coming back, and we have some good ones waiting in the wings. We are oozing TE talent, and the dropoff from Warren won't be as great as some people fear (Reynolds > Dinkins). Our WRs definitely aren't as bad as some are crying about. Our line will be stout.

We need one pass catcher to break out and one disruptor to step up on D and we'll be right back in the playoffs, as a top squad.
 
He's not fully polished yet and the NFL hates to develop quarterbacks these days. A lot of "stay all four years" advice right now from those in the NFL when it comes to QBs. He was going to be a first round pick possibly this year, now he's in the conversation for first overall.
No way would he have projected as a 1st round pick this year.
 
My guess is all OL that can return will return as well.

But I am with the previous poster.....they need to get 2 top flight WR right now.
With Allar returning, there is absolutely no reason why his presence shouldn't be a magnet to attract at least a couple of good portal receivers; the staff would have to work hard to mess that up.
 
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if Allar went pro next year he'd be just 21.5 years old at the start of the NFL season. I don't care how good you are, that is young to be playing QB in the NFL. There is a lot on a QBs shoulders. I think it's smart for him to come back. If he was an RB or WR it'd be a different story.

If he makes it big in the NFL then he'll make so much money that losing that one year won't hurt. OTOH if he comes out too early and makes it less big or not big at all as a result of coming out too young then he'll lose a lot of money.

The only risk is injury next year. He should buy a nice injury insurance policy for fall 2025, just in case. He can afford it with his NIL money.
I agree. QBs aren't given much development time in the NFL today. I think another year would be beneficial if he continues to improve like he did this year.
 
Good for Allar.

As I've said before, he's going to be a good one, but later in the season I definitely saw some issues he needs to work on to get to that next level. Kid has an achievable high 1st round ceiling, and if he wasn't feeling that love from the draft world, it makes sense to come back and work on cleaning up those issues.

Selfishly, it's good to have him back. We could get one or both of the stud RBs coming back, and we have some good ones waiting in the wings. We are oozing TE talent, and the dropoff from Warren won't be as great as some people fear (Reynolds > Dinkins). Our WRs definitely aren't as bad as some are crying about. Our line will be stout.

We need one pass catcher to break out and one disruptor to step up on D and we'll be right back in the playoffs, as a top squad.
yes, he is incosistant and tends to throw the ball away to early. another year will definitely help. SMOP.
Good for Allar.

As I've said before, he's going to be a good one, but later in the season I definitely saw some issues he needs to work on to get to that next level. Kid has an achievable high 1st round ceiling, and if he wasn't feeling that love from the draft world, it makes sense to come back and work on cleaning up those issues.

Selfishly, it's good to have him back. We could get one or both of the stud RBs coming back, and we have some good ones waiting in the wings. We are oozing TE talent, and the dropoff from Warren won't be as great as some people fear (Reynolds > Dinkins). Our WRs definitely aren't as bad as some are crying about. Our line will be stout.

We need one pass catcher to break out and one disruptor to step up on D and we'll be right back in the playoffs, as a top squad.
 
Jayden Daniels base salary is about $4M and his bonus is a little shy of $24.3M just to use a recent guy as a benchmark. If we move to say Levis he signed $3.8 base and a $3.9 bonus. That is a big difference for just outside of the 1st round versus high first round.

If you look at the teams looking QB you probably have NYJ, Clev, Tenn, Vegas, NYG, and NO that might be looking at round 1. I think this draft will be a lot like the 2022 draft year. Who of Sanders Milroe, or Ward would you really want to give the keys to the franchise? It seems most view the QB class as meh. Maybe you are better off not being in that group. I am not sure I can say for certain that Allar is better than those three or Ewers, Beck, Gabriel, Dart, etc.

I would add that even though he said he is coming back you don't have to declare for the draft until mid January
 
This team was set to have about 15 to 20 guys hit the portal just to get to the correct number for next year but now this announcement changes a lot of who goes versus who stays now.
 
To tell you the truth, I'm perfectly fine with us just riding with Allar and running a regular offense and concentrating on our strengths rather than force feeding eye candy that often times doesn't work. I'm fine with them doing the designed runs for Warren that he's run all season because most of the time they've been very successful. However, we can overcome the six to eight plays that the Pribula package included by just trusting Allar to do what he's capable off; I mean, how ridiculous were those packages that had Allar split wide when Pribula would come in, and not once was a pass ever thrown to him, so basically we were playing with 10 players on offense?
IDK why everyone always says this. It doesn't matter if Allar is out wide and doesn't do anything. Defenses still put someone out there, so it's not like we are playing 10 vs 11. The coaches are very aware of what they are getting when they line up this way. 2 QBs or a wildcat formation with one QB out wide creates a numbers advantage for the offense by pulling a defender away from the play. Keeping the QB on the field helps to disguise the formation when breaking the huddle so the defense doesn't substitute in expectation of it. We did indeed run a couple of double pass plays with Allar out wide, including the well-known one vs. USC where Warren snapped to Beau who threw the backwards pass to Allar who then passed for a TD to Warren.
 
IDK why everyone always says this. It doesn't matter if Allar is out wide and doesn't do anything. Defenses still put someone out there, so it's not like we are playing 10 vs 11. The coaches are very aware of what they are getting when they line up this way. 2 QBs or a wildcat formation with one QB out wide creates a numbers advantage for the offense by pulling a defender away from the play. Keeping the QB on the field helps to disguise the formation when breaking the huddle so the defense doesn't substitute in expectation of it. We did indeed run a couple of double pass plays with Allar out wide, including the well-known one vs. USC where Warren snapped to Beau who threw the backwards pass to Allar who then passed for a TD to Warren.
Come on, Man. You really don’t think highly compensated, experienced professionals in an ultra competitive environment know more than fans on a message board do you? You’re no Lando, that’s for sure.
 
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IDK why everyone always says this. It doesn't matter if Allar is out wide and doesn't do anything. Defenses still put someone out there, so it's not like we are playing 10 vs 11. The coaches are very aware of what they are getting when they line up this way. 2 QBs or a wildcat formation with one QB out wide creates a numbers advantage for the offense by pulling a defender away from the play. Keeping the QB on the field helps to disguise the formation when breaking the huddle so the defense doesn't substitute in expectation of it. We did indeed run a couple of double pass plays with Allar out wide, including the well-known one vs. USC where Warren snapped to Beau who threw the backwards pass to Allar who then passed for a TD to Warren.
I think it does matter, and I think it matters to Drew as well. Watch some of the early games this year when he had to split out wide and he couldn't hide his frustration. I don't care about the matchups or pretending like the other team has to spend all their practice time on our trick plays. Running a disjointed offense where Drew has to move around and sometimes come off the field does not help him at all. Maybe it's fine when it's Kent State, but against good teams every possession and every first down is critical, and getting Drew out of rhythm for that kind of crap is infuriating.
 
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The only wide out they lose is Fleming. Wallace, Clifford and Evan’s will be back. There is also the portal as well as the possibility of one of the freshmen on the team stepping up like say Denmark. The tight end room is loaded and I wouldn’t be surprised to see both backs return next year.

I’m more worried about what we lose on Defense than what we will have on offense.
I believe Clifford walked on Senior Day.
 
Not sure why everyone is so mad about this
Most here seem happy he's returning as they know he's a great QB that is NFL ready. You selfishly want him back
This is a bad business decision. That's all college football is...its a business
I'll be thrilled watching him next year but truly believe he's letting Franklin and others con him into this over loyally. Even the announcement now helps Beau more than him. Hopefully it doesn't hurt him too much
How can you blame Franklin? He historically has encouraged kids he thought were ready to move on! Do you have insider info?
 
I think it does matter, and I think it matters to Drew as well. Watch some of the early games this year when he had to split out wide and he couldn't hide his frustration. I don't care about the matchups or pretending like the other team has to spend all their practice time on our trick plays. Running a disjointed offense where Drew has to move around and sometimes come off the field does not help him at all. Maybe it's fine when it's Kent State, but against good teams every possession and every first down is critical, and getting Drew out of rhythm for that kind of crap is infuriating.
If you don't care about matchups then you don't care about winning football games. The whole game is about matchups.
 
The only problem with having Warren in the game as the QB is that TE Warren is no longer available as a receiver.

With Beau in as the QB, it provided AK with more options available making it hypothetically easier for our offense to confuse their D and create a splash play.

With Pribula no longer available, I'm not crazy about running the RPO with DA as Drew rarly keeps the ball and the D swarms to whomever the RB in the game is at the time.
As this season progressed, I thought Drew did a great job of running with the ball, when necessary, and seemed more and more comfortable doing so.
 
The only problem with having Warren in the game as the QB is that TE Warren is no longer available as a receiver.

With Beau in as the QB, it provided AK with more options available making it hypothetically easier for our offense to confuse their D and create a splash play.

With Pribula no longer available, I'm not crazy about running the RPO with DA as Drew rarly keeps the ball and the D swarms to whomever the RB in the game is at the time.
Beau leaving just made life easier for the SMU defensive coordinator.
 
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