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Football Drew Allar set to return to Penn State in 2025

Depending how these playoff games go and the end result, there might be a few surprises that stay for unfinished business. Plus, the NIL money makes these players really think about the giving up a sure thing...
 
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Not sure why everyone is so mad about this
Most here seem happy he's returning as they know he's a great QB that is NFL ready. You selfishly want him back
This is a bad business decision. That's all college football is...its a business
I'll be thrilled watching him next year but truly believe he's letting Franklin and others con him into this over loyally. Even the announcement now helps Beau more than him. Hopefully it doesn't hurt him too much
 
Not sure why everyone is so mad about this
Most here seem happy he's returning as they know he's a great QB that is NFL ready. You selfishly want him back
This is a bad business decision. That's all college football is...its a business
I'll be thrilled watching him next year but truly believe he's letting Franklin and others con him into this over loyally. Even the announcement now helps Beau more than him. Hopefully it doesn't hurt him too much

No one is mad. You're wrong again and now doing what you always do. Keep talking to yourself.
 
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No one is mad. You're wrong again and now doing what you always do. Keep talking to yourself.
I'm sorry--what am I wrong about?
I was wrong about him returning--I didn't factor in that he wouldn't do what was best for him--my bad
 
He’s a very good college QB at this point but was looking at late second round or early third.

I don’t know who this Lando guy is except to have him on ignore.
 
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Corporate attorney
I have plenty of experience with contracts at this level. This is a huge mistake on a business level. He knows that and is risking it like countless others have.
The risk doesn't trump the reward here
This is better for the staff than him obviously
Ya a lot of corporate lawyers spend 24 hours a day trolling a message board.
 
Ya a lot of corporate lawyers spend 24 hours a day trolling a message board.
24-7? Interesting. Not working today so this game out at the perfect time.

Here's the reality

This is great for Penn State (which is all most of you care about)
This isn't good for Allar (which many here claim they care about but don't)
This is unbelievable news for Franklin

So that's where we're at. You can all continue to pretend he was a 3rd round pick and this was his best decision with the known supporting cast for next year. Reason won't work so you all enjoy

Hopefully Drew wins a title this year and changes his mind.
 
Corporate attorney
I have plenty of experience with contracts at this level. This is a huge mistake on a business level. He knows that and is risking it like countless others have.
The risk doesn't trump the reward here
This is better for the staff than him obviously
Thanks.
 
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Not sure why everyone is so mad about this
Most here seem happy he's returning as they know he's a great QB that is NFL ready. You selfishly want him back
This is a bad business decision. That's all college football is...its a business
I'll be thrilled watching him next year but truly believe he's letting Franklin and others con him into this over loyally. Even the announcement now helps Beau more than him. Hopefully it doesn't hurt him too much
you are wrong.

If Allar comes out this year he'll be a second or third-round prospect. That will get him a $6/7m four-year contract. After agents and taxes, he'll end up with less than $2m in his pocket. If he works out, he'll get a $50m+ to $300m contract after that. And good NFL QBs play for 10+ years.

So the value is the second deal, not the first. And that means you have to be 100% prepared to be a successful NFL QB in your first year. And that means you need to get as much experience as you can at the college level. Remember, Allar is only 20 years old. Gabiel is 23. Bo Nix and Penix were both 23 last year.

Lastly, Allar will get good NIL money to offset the $2m he'll miss in the NFL. In fact, I've read the HS QB that Michigan flipped from LSU will make more money his Fr year of college than the #1 NFL draft pick next year.

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He'd be better off listening to me but most people would
If he was told "possibly a first round pick" and is coming back he's doing it out of emotion not logic--if he just wants to be a kid a little while longer that's great but this is a bad business decision.
Great for Penn State. Great for Franklin. Horrible for Drew
Who's he throwing the ball to next year?
If he is not a first rounder, his path to a second life changing contract is much more difficult because there is a much greater chance that he never gets a real opportunity to show his stuff. The fact that you refuse to acknowledge the other side of the argument is telling.
 
you are wrong.

If Allar comes out this year he'll be a second or third-round prospect. That will get him a $6/7m four-year contract. After agents and taxes, he'll end up with less than $2m in his pocket. If he works out, he'll get a $50m+ to $300m contract after that. And good NFL QBs play for 10+ years.

So the value is the second deal, not the first. And that means you have to be 100% prepared to be a successful NFL QB in your first year. And that means you need to get as much experience as you can at the college level. Remember, Allar is only 20 years old. Gabiel is 23. Bo Nix and Penix were both 23 last year.

Lastly, Allar will get good NIL money to offset the $2m he'll miss in the NFL. In fact, I've read the HS QB that Michigan flipped from LSU will make more money his Fr year of college than the #1 NFL draft pick next year.

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As Dylan said "possibly first round pick" but even if he's second or third he should go. Everyone should at every program.

Your second paragraph is incorrect. You don't have to be ready day 1. Almost no one is.

NIL money doesn't come close to delaying the second contract. The only potential argument is RBs
 
If he is not a first rounder, his path to a second life changing contract is much more difficult because there is a much greater chance that he never gets a real opportunity to show his stuff.
99.99% is a first rounder
ESPN main 3 guys have him in their top 30
People realize the CCG skyrocketed him right?
 
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I happen to think it is a very good thing for the player to stay in school and get his degree. Never know if pro football is going to work out. Smart move by Allar!
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And he can get a degree after playing if it doesn't work out. Likely won't use it anyway like most people not just athletes

What's your degree? What's your job?
 
As Dylan said "possibly first round pick" but even if he's second or third he should go. Everyone should at every program.

Your second paragraph is incorrect. You don't have to be ready day 1. Almost no one is.

NIL money doesn't come close to delaying the second contract. The only potential argument is RBs
I simply don't agree.

he'll make as much money as a PSU sr as he will a second or third round pick. and if the argument is that he can get into the NFL moneyline earlier, a QB will play for 10+ years so that doesn't hold true for QBs as compared to RBs and DEs in general. Lastly, there is a reason why NFL GMs look at the number of starts you got in college as a key evaluation metric.
 
I simply don't agree.

he'll make as much money as a PSU sr as he will a second or third round pick. and if the argument is that he can get into the NFL moneyline earlier, a QB will play for 10+ years so that doesn't hold true for QBs as compared to RBs and DEs in general. Lastly, there is a reason why NFL GMs look at the number of starts you got in college as a key evaluation metric.
And he'll have 27-30 which is plenty
39-46 doesn't change anything if it's a down year with the lack of a supporting cast.

But it's fine. I accept you all love this so enjoy it. I'll enjoy it next year but feel bad for the kid as this is the wrong business move...if he's happy and content so be it.

So before this becomes 50 pages...good luck to Drew...still time to change his mind if he blows up the next 6 weeks like I expect.
 
The way the NFL is today you better be ready to play right away - they are throwing these QB's in right away and some swim and some sink and it's hard to recover - Darnold seems to be doing it but Zack Wilson and Bryce Young have struggled as has Levis so another year might help like it did for Nix.
 
you are wrong.

If Allar comes out this year he'll be a second or third-round prospect. That will get him a $6/7m four-year contract. After agents and taxes, he'll end up with less than $2m in his pocket. If he works out, he'll get a $50m+ to $300m contract after that. And good NFL QBs play for 10+ years.

So the value is the second deal, not the first. And that means you have to be 100% prepared to be a successful NFL QB in your first year. And that means you need to get as much experience as you can at the college level. Remember, Allar is only 20 years old. Gabiel is 23. Bo Nix and Penix were both 23 last year.

Lastly, Allar will get good NIL money to offset the $2m he'll miss in the NFL. In fact, I've read the HS QB that Michigan flipped from LSU will make more money his Fr year of college than the #1 NFL draft pick next year.

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And that’s the reality that he’s only 20 years old. There’s literally no downside right now for Drew. He’ll continue to grow as a QB, make good money, and get his degree. Good for Drew.
 
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Him not needing money isn't reason to stay
Dave hit on it. Allar loves Franklin and there's no doubt in my mind he's allowing that to impact him
There's zero logic in announcing this now. I'd believe less emotion was involved after the season ends.
There is no way he did not get serious consulting with NFL experts…how many QB’s have we seen come out earlier than they should have.. and failed miserably.. another year under his belt… improve on his mechanics..takes team to playoffs ? 2x.. possibly #1 Draft pick next year ? Smart business decision IMO..
 
24-7? Interesting. Not working today so this game out at the perfect time.

Here's the reality

This is great for Penn State (which is all most of you care about)
This isn't good for Allar (which many here claim they care about but don't)
This is unbelievable news for Franklin

So that's where we're at. You can all continue to pretend he was a 3rd round pick and this was his best decision with the known supporting cast for next year. Reason won't work so you all enjoy

Hopefully Drew wins a title this year and changes his mind.
You’re not kidding anyone. You have tens of thousands of posts. You’re not working any day,
 
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Employers. Yes the companies or organizations that have employed you. Judging by your 20,000 wrong statements on this board you are likely currently between them. Not only are you always wrong, you’re dumb.
So you don't comprehend law firms...gotcha. employers lol
 
There is no way he did not get serious consulting with NFL experts…how many QB’s have we seen come out earlier than they should have.. and failed miserably.. another year under his belt… improve on his mechanics..takes team to playoffs ? 2x.. possibly #1 Draft pick next year ? Smart business decision IMO..
I agree. If Allar got drafted by a team like what Green Bay did with Jordan Love, that would be great. Allar could sit two years behind a good QB and mature. The problem is most teams need to put their #1 pick into the game ASAP for PR and ticket sales purposes. Many get ruined and never mature. it is one thing to be a 24 year old rookie with 3/4 years as a college starter under your belt. It is another to be a 21 year old rooking (Allar next year) having started two years.
 
Who is the #2 QB now?
Probably Grunkmeyer who is a true Fr. QB. The only other option is Jaxson Smolik who is a redshirt FR (true soph). The problem is that Smolik was injured and has only recently been cleared to practice. Under AK, he has only taken a few snaps in practice. Gunkmeyer, while being a year younger, has had over 300 practice snaps according to Franklin.

So I am almost 100% certain, if Allar went down, Grunk would be the guy. I do have to say that I was mystified why he didn't get significant playing time against Purdue. I guess they wanted Beau to get them.

Having said that, if Allar had a significant injury, we'd be screwed anyway. Rarely does a second team QB do great after the starter gets hurt in college football. but we are now screwed even if Allar gets dinged up and has to take a series or more off. There are no gimmies to get a kid seasoned. All snaps are significant against good playoff games.

The best thing that could happen is if we can get up by 17 or more vs SMU and give Grunk some time to take snaps in the 4th Qtr.
 
Corporate attorney
I have plenty of experience with contracts at this level. This is a huge mistake on a business level. He knows that and is risking it like countless others have.
The risk doesn't trump the reward here
This is better for the staff than him obviously
Corporate attorney. Does your firm know how much time you spend on this board, all day, every day? Do you even work at all? Are you just as much of a know-it-all at work? You are so argumentative and contrarian, you are going to lose your job and your wife (if you actually have one). People like you simply do not get along with anyone because you are a horse's ass with a monster ego (you're never wrong, in your own mind and when you clearly are you just deflect it as something stupid someone else has done).

I bet you don't have a single friend in the world, which would explain your incessant posting where all you want to do is argue with people. There are others here like that but you are Patient Zero. Get lost.

Also, mods here (if there are any) suck. You exist only to fight with everyone and they still let it go. You're insane.
 
And if you're possibly a first round pick you go...every time. Without a second thought.
I think he has people not looking out for his best interest in his head. I don't see us having the weapons next year for him to be successful
Honestly, do you think the offense is better next year?
I think this is great for Penn State--absolutely awful for the kid
You've posted this same thought four times already in this thread, almost verbatim. We get it.
 
Those saying this is a bad decision are wrong … drew made step change improvements over the last year but he is not “there” yet. He has talent around him … TE will be solid, rb will be solid and possibly great with a singleton return. Many 4 star receivers. And finally a good o-line. O could actually be better next year. D has me concerned and needs portal help.
 
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