Since 2015 Dabo has 2 national championships and has played in 4 National Championship Games = Elite
Is Franklin elite yet????
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He might be a moron but he has 2 national championships = Elite
I’d be happy with Franklin having a single undefeated team not awarded a mnc, let alone three.
Lets see if he can manage even a 1-loss season. They’ve failed twice when they’ve had an excellent opportunity. Obviously this year won’t be one.
I’ve been critical of Paterno in the past but in fairness he had 4 undefeated teams that didn’t get a title 3 before the 80’s.
Same thing I read on here after we got crushed by Michigan in 2016….we wouldn’t win three games.
Here’s the thing that’s infuriating about Franklin. He’s always talking about national championships and he uses his “interest from other schools” to leverage more and more from the university all to lay eggs when it comes to actual coaching. He looked genuinely disinterested today throughout the game. Same look he had all last season. He’s had 3 very good years here out of 8. Two 7-6 seasons, one losing season, and what looks like a season on a downward spiral this year.
Yeah, if double digit win seasons, a conference championship, and NY6 bowls don’t count, then you’re right on the money. What a fraud. We better give back that Big championship, it was a fake.
Please apologize to Don Brown...he is not the Illinois Defensive Coordinator and therefore the Illinois defense cannot be "vaunted".
Enough already with your sanctimonious bullshit. 2016 was a fluke, James can only beat cupcakes consistently, and the program has peaked under him. He shouldn't get another raise from this University until he earns his bloated paycheck.
Take his nuts out of your mouth.
Two National Championships and playing for a third between 81 and 86 begs to differ.
Just to be clear, because it comes up over and over and is misrepresented... CJF's "elite" comment was an expression of a GOAL. It is fair to say that the goal hasn't yet been achieved, but it is a legitimate goal nevertheless and him saying it out loud has had ZERO negative effects on the program.
What would we think of a coach who didn't aspire for PSU to become an elite program? If he set the standard at being a "winning program" then he would now be a hero and an over-achiever?
With all due respect, it may be reasonable to hold someone to their own self-defined standards, but presenting the "elite" statement of a GOAL as some sort of root cause for everything that doesn't turn out favorably for PSU is very lazy at best.
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Alabama s football success has been a gold mine mine for the university both financially and academically
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To be fair, his comment they were already great. They have never had a great season under his leadership. I wish I were wrong.
If Day had our top 10-15 classes, he would have significant success. Would have had PSU in playoffs multiple times in 8 years
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Come on man. It was an absurd thing
to say at the time, and sounds even more absurd looking back. It also made Penn State look ridiculous. Penn State hadn't been "great", or even "pretty good" for enough years prior for Franklin to make such a statement.
The stat that was shown on the broadcast was very interesting; Psu under franklin was 20-9 (now 20-10) playing when ranked in the top 10
You’re expecting posters to listen to what was actually said and not hear what they want to hear. He says we’re not elite yet, but he wants to be then posters rip him for not being elite. Unbelievable.
No he wouldn’t. And who knows if he would have had our classes if he were the coach. It’s easier to recruit at OSU coming in on the heels of Urban Meyer than it is at PSU coming in on the heels of Jerry Sandusky.
I can name three, but they obviously don’t live up to your lofty standards.
Day is a better coach…I think most objectively would agree. And that includes recruiting…he has improved on Urban. I will tell you this, I would be willing to try Day if he became available.
Hard to say if Day is a better coach….let’s send him to Vandy and see what he can do, then we’ll be able to judge him. He, like Riley, stepped into a really great situation. None of them stepped into the sh!tshow Franklin stepped into.
And that is why Franklin was the right choice at the time. We needed a man who could bring PSU back from the abyss, a man who could recruit and build relationships.
Franklin made recruiting an emphasis for the assistants, perhaps out of necessity. Has that come with a cost? Is part of the cost getting offensive linemen? Is part of the cost player development? Does emotion detract from smart football on the field?
There are no Paul Poslusznys out there. There are certainly no Mike Reids. Franklin teams play well when emotionally high, and vice versa. They often come out flat in a noon kickoff. Why? The effect of game time should be even for both teams.
Even Clifford seems more emotional compared to just about any QB before Franklin took over. The CEO's emphasis ultimately filters down through the organization.
The record after a first loss lends credence, that emotion is too much of a factor with this team. I doubt if this is typical of the norm. It's almost like 1999 is ingrained in our culture.
Franklin was the right man at the time. I'm not sure that holds true going forward. His salary, like that of his boss, is tough to justify based on performance measures. I remember how that sort of thing affected me as a subordinate in a workplace.
Results show Day is a better Coach. I suspect he’s do well at Vandy but he is so, so good we will never find out. If he chooses to leave, it will be for the NFL.
