Is McCutchen Better than Clemente?

[LemonEars]

Roberto Clemente has always been considered the best Pirate player ever. Pirate fans rarely dispute Clemente's place as the best in Pirate history. However, watching McCutchen progress I am beginning to wonder if he is approaching Clemente now and eventually will be better. McCutchen has a lot of Clemente's skills - hit, hit with power, run, field, throw. He doesn't have Clemente's flair but McCutchen might surpass Roberto's stats at the end of his career if he stays healthy.

What do the Pirate fans on this board think? Is McCutchen better than Clemente?

 

[androcles]

...Clemente was something very special, and made one play after another that had fans just shaking their heads ...his arm was outstanding... it was hard to pitch around him 'cause he would swing at a pitch at eye level, almost in the dirt and/or a foot off the plate - and drive it on a line...he almost "willed" the Bucs to beat the Orioles in the World Series...and died while he still has a few good years left...

oh, well...

...'Cutch is also a very special player...probably less daring ... and more conventional... but a real competitor who is undoubtedly the leader of this Pirate resurgence...

 

[bison13]

Not yet, but he is well on his way. The exact opposite personality as a former LF who couldnt throw out Sid Bream at the plate.

 

[Nit777]

Roberto Clemente has always been considered the best Pirate player ever. Pirate fans rarely dispute Clemente's place as the best in Pirate history. However, watching McCutchen progress I am beginning to wonder if he is approaching Clemente now and eventually will be better. McCutchen has a lot of Clemente's skills - hit, hit with power, run, field, throw. He doesn't have Clemente's flair but McCutchen might surpass Roberto's stats at the end of his career if he stays healthy.

What do the Pirate fans on this board think? Is McCutchen better than Clemente?

He may become that, but has not yet passed the test of time.

Clemente played on WS winners in 1960 and 1971, as I recall, and had a few good years before 1960 and a few credible years after 1971.

McCutcheon has been around maybe 6-7 years?

Being very old school from a time when players stayed with one franchise, I would think McCutcheon's chances of eclipsing Clemente is to stay a pirate for his entire career.

Look no further than Albert Pujols. Great player for the Cards for 10 years. Also very well liked.

Along come the Angels with an offer of 30M for 10 more years. The Cards offer 25M/26M and Pujols leaves. I have no problem with that. But then he opened his mouth at the end and talked about the Cards 'dissing' him.

So - Screw Albert Pujols. I can tell you that a great majority of Card fans think the same way I do.

To some degree, the same thing could happen to McCutcheon.

Whether he left with class or without class, I would think the Pirate fan would not remain as enamored with him.

 

[TheGLOV]

Roberto Clemente has always been considered the best Pirate player ever. Pirate fans rarely dispute Clemente's place as the best in Pirate history. However, watching McCutchen progress I am beginning to wonder if he is approaching Clemente now and eventually will be better. McCutchen has a lot of Clemente's skills - hit, hit with power, run, field, throw. He doesn't have Clemente's flair but McCutchen might surpass Roberto's stats at the end of his career if he stays healthy.

What do the Pirate fans on this board think? Is McCutchen better than Clemente?

In a word; one simple yet powerful word: No!

 

[Ten Thousan Marbles]

Roberto Clemente has always been considered the best Pirate player ever. Pirate fans rarely dispute Clemente's place as the best in Pirate history. However, watching McCutchen progress I am beginning to wonder if he is approaching Clemente now and eventually will be better. McCutchen has a lot of Clemente's skills - hit, hit with power, run, field, throw. He doesn't have Clemente's flair but McCutchen might surpass Roberto's stats at the end of his career if he stays healthy.

What do the Pirate fans on this board think? Is McCutchen better than Clemente?

LOL.

Uh. No.

Anybody who would even ask that has absolutely no concept of Roberto Clemente.

And, no....he is NOT "well on his way." LOL

He's just another good ball player, and he'll never approach Clemente as an all around player.

 

[marshall23]

no way

 

[wslee1]

No, but Clutch is the real deal. Remember Clemente was a Pirate for 18 years, that's something pretty amazing right there, and his last year, getting his 3000th hit and 2nd World Series Championship, along with his off the field humanitarian acts, puts him on another level, few could match. I once heard the story of how he made a catch climbing the wire fence in right field at Forbes field, then unbelievably, whirled around, and threw the guy out at home, who was tagging from 3rd on a perfect throw.

I was fortunate to be at Friday and Saturday"s games against Cards. This team is something special. Never say die, and Clutch is the true leader of this team. Leads by example. Ask the question again in 10 years.

Let's Go Bucs!

Roberto Clemente has always been considered the best Pirate player ever. Pirate fans rarely dispute Clemente's place as the best in Pirate history. However, watching McCutchen progress I am beginning to wonder if he is approaching Clemente now and eventually will be better. McCutchen has a lot of Clemente's skills - hit, hit with power, run, field, throw. He doesn't have Clemente's flair but McCutchen might surpass Roberto's stats at the end of his career if he stays healthy.

What do the Pirate fans on this board think? Is McCutchen better than Clemente?

 

[TheGLOV]

No, but Clutch is the real deal. Remember Clemente was a Pirate for 18 years, that's something pretty amazing right there, and his last year, getting his 3000th hit and 2nd World Series Championship, along with his off the field humanitarian acts, puts him on another level, few could match. I once heard the story of how he made a catch climbing the wire fence in right field at Forbes field, then unbelievably, whirled around, and threw the guy out at home, who was tagging from 3rd on a perfect throw.

I was fortunate to be at Friday and Saturday"s games against Cards. This team is something special. Never say die, and Clutch is the true leader of this team. Leads by example. Ask the question again in 10 years.

Let's Go Bucs!

They have a Clemente Award for a reason. Call me when they have a McCutchen award!

 

[BrucePa]

Take in the context of the rest of baseball in each of their times.

Right now, McCutcheon is in the top five of the best players in baseball with Trout, Stanton, Harper and Cabrera. Pick whatever order they're in, but he's in the top five.

Clemente was in the top three with Mays and Aaron, or in the top four from '56-'62 with Mantle....and top five depending on how you would look at Frank Robinson with his MVPs in both leagues.

So, depending on how you view baseball in the '50s and '60s versus baseball today, it's a pretty close comparison. The real difference today might be free agency, which means that he might end up with another team in 2018....

 

[Mixolydian]

Roberto Clemente has always been considered the best Pirate player ever. Pirate fans rarely dispute Clemente's place as the best in Pirate history. However, watching McCutchen progress I am beginning to wonder if he is approaching Clemente now and eventually will be better. McCutchen has a lot of Clemente's skills - hit, hit with power, run, field, throw. He doesn't have Clemente's flair but McCutchen might surpass Roberto's stats at the end of his career if he stays healthy.

What do the Pirate fans on this board think? Is McCutchen better than Clemente?

Impossible comparison to make given different eras and somewhat different positions. Also McCutchen has not played and shined in the deep post-season/WS spotlight yet. Having said that, both are/were great players for sure. McCutchen will have a very difficult time getting to 3000 hits, which he will absolutely have to have as a minimum to make the HoF IMO. Also his arm is a minus and despite his incredible 1st to 3rd speed, his base stealing is not a plus at all. But still he is a great player and definitely one of the best of this current era (5th all star game this year I believe).

 

[BigMatt]

Clemente all the way...

 

[lionlurker]

Cutch is actually not a very good outfielder, no matter what his rep is. He plays way too deep, to make sure nothing gets behind him, and therefore has a lot of balls drop in front of him. In addition, his arm is not even CLOSE to Clemente's arm. There is simply no comparison.

You could make a case for him offensively, if he keeps it going for another 10 years.

 

[GulfCoastLion]

Well certainly Cutch is an amazing talent and already has an MVP and almost another last year. He needs to play for another 10 years at a high level with big production to be considered in Clemente's class, but he may have the ability and longevity to do so. He may not need to get 3000 hits, but anything over 2500 would be worthy of comparison. He is a terrific centerfielder, but Clemente was the better outfielder and certainly had the better throwing arm. Power is pretty similar, although Clemente played in Forbes Field which was a cavernous ballpark for right handed hitters and hurt his HR production, which has been discussed often on the board. Let's see if Cutch can get to a world series and maybe lead the way (MVP) to add to his credentials. No doubt he potentially could be considered in Clemente's class someday and I'm a huge Clemente fan.
For the record, while people mention Barry Bonds early career in Pittsburgh as reminders of Clemente, the player that I felt had a chance to potentially exceed Clemente with hitting, fielding, throwing, hitting for power, etc.. was the Cincinnati Cobra, Dave Parker. He had all the tools and would have been an all time HOF player in my opinion, had it not been for his drug related issues with cocaine back in the early 80's , which led him out of Pittsburgh and eventually to the Reds and then the A's to finish his career. He lost probably 4-5 years of top production back in his prime, which now haunts him relative to his all time status and sure HOF career IMO. Amazingly talented ballplayer.

 

[Nittany Ziggy]

I never saw a game at Forbes Field but my brother, who is 16 years older than me, went frequently. He loves to tell a story about Clemente standing in center field during warm up time and pitching batting practice from there. One of the Pirate coaches would play "umpire" and call balls and strikes. My brother said Clemente would get in a groove and throw several strikes in a row. I always love hearing him bring that piece of nostalgia out.

Clemente was a 2 time World Series winner and was MVP of the 1971 Fall Classic. He also was a sportswriter's dream, hypochondriac and general "enigma". He was once questioned about scoring from first on a long single into the cavernous Forbes Field outfield after complaining about his aching ankle before the game. . He looked at the sportswriter and said: "scoring was the only way I could give it some rest". He was very special.

Cutch is also very special but, no, he is not YET anywhere near "The Great One".

 

[NITTANYJGK]

I'm old school and inclined to say Clemente all the way, but let's see what Cutch does the next 8-10 years. To me only Willie Mays was a better all around player than Roberto. Both are/were dominant defensive players but Clemente had one of the best arms ever. McCutchen is faster. Clemente hit for a better average and didn't swing at the bad pitches Cutch does.....at times Cutch can look bad at the plate. Cutch might have more power. Clemente is a legend and Cutch some day could be a legend. Let's revisit this in 8-10 years.

 

[jimarnp]

Roberto Clemente has always been considered the best Pirate player ever. Pirate fans rarely dispute Clemente's place as the best in Pirate history. However, watching McCutchen progress I am beginning to wonder if he is approaching Clemente now and eventually will be better. McCutchen has a lot of Clemente's skills - hit, hit with power, run, field, throw. He doesn't have Clemente's flair but McCutchen might surpass Roberto's stats at the end of his career if he stays healthy.

What do the Pirate fans on this board think? Is McCutchen better than Clemente?

Clemente was one of the best, most complete players of all time....not just one of the Pirates' best. ---when, as a kid, I was able to see Clemente play face to face against Mays, Robinson, Aaron....... Clemente virtually always played better. ( I will say that Mays was in the twilight of his career, however. So maybe not a fair comparison)

 

[NITTANYJGK]

Clemente was one of the best, most complete players of all time....not just one of the Pirates' best. ---when, as a kid, I was able to see Clemente play face to face against Mays, Robinson, Aaron....... Clemente virtually always played better. ( I will say that Mays was in the twilight of his career, however. So maybe not a fair comparison)

Clemente and Mays were the same age , so you can't say Mays was in the twilight of his career. I idolized the Great One, but Willie was the best all around player ever. One thing people forget about Mays given all of his great talents....super quick and the fastest player ever going from first to third.

 

[mj1962]

Roberto Clemente has always been considered the best Pirate player ever. Pirate fans rarely dispute Clemente's place as the best in Pirate history. However, watching McCutchen progress I am beginning to wonder if he is approaching Clemente now and eventually will be better. McCutchen has a lot of Clemente's skills - hit, hit with power, run, field, throw. He doesn't have Clemente's flair but McCutchen might surpass Roberto's stats at the end of his career if he stays healthy.

What do the Pirate fans on this board think? Is McCutchen better than Clemente?

NO never compare players from different eras but the answer is no AM is good very good but he is not better that than Roberto

 

[jimarnp]

Clemente and Mays were the same age , so you can't say Mays was in the twilight of his career. I idolized the Great One, but Willie was the best all around player ever. One thing people forget about Mays given all of his great talents....super quick and the fastest player ever going from first to third.

By twilight, I mean his talents were clearly lessened . Clemente, in his late 30's was still playing at a very high level ( yes, I know he used to sit out some games due to chronic back pain etc) , and when I saw him play head to head against any of the others, he virtually always played better. ---I never saw ( at least I don't remember seeing) any of them playing in the early/mid 60's ......when all their talents may have been greater.

 

[GulfCoastLion]

Clemente and Mays were the same age , so you can't say Mays was in the twilight of his career. I idolized the Great One, but Willie was the best all around player ever. One thing people forget about Mays given all of his great talents....super quick and the fastest player ever going from first to third.

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Mays was 3 years older than Clemente and broke in MLB in 1951 or 4 years before Clemente. No doubt Mays was the better player in his prime and mostly because of his superior power numbers. He was also a better base runner in his prime. The comparisons late in their careers were because Clemente was still playing at an amazing level in his late 30's (he died at 37), while Mays was deteriorating by late 30's (38+) and was a shadow of his former self with the Mets in his 40's. I too really only started watching about 1965-1966 and saw Mays at the twilight of his amazing career and skills.

 

[jj410]

Roberto Clemente has always been considered the best Pirate player ever. Pirate fans rarely dispute Clemente's place as the best in Pirate history. However, watching McCutchen progress I am beginning to wonder if he is approaching Clemente now and eventually will be better. McCutchen has a lot of Clemente's skills - hit, hit with power, run, field, throw. He doesn't have Clemente's flair but McCutchen might surpass Roberto's stats at the end of his career if he stays healthy.

What do the Pirate fans on this board think? Is McCutchen better than Clemente?

Some Pirate fans are so deluded they actually think Clemente was better than Mays. No non-Pirate fan or baseball expert on the planet thinks that. In fact Clemente was probably not even the greatest Pirate.

It's too early to compare McCutcheon with Clemente. He has played only 7 years to Clemente's 18. So far he is a better hitter (OPS .885 vs. .834) and a maybe comparable fielder with not as good an arm. He has to go at least a half dozen more years at his current level to be seriously compared to Clemente.

Although it is true you can't compare eras, the greatest Pirate was probably Honus Wagner. Along with Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Christy Mathewson and Walter Johnson, he was one of the first five inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame in 1936.
Wagner's OBP/SLG/OPS of .391/.467/.858 compares favorably to Clemente's .359/.475/.834.
Wagner was a great SS , the most important defensive position, while Clemente played RF, not even the most important outfield position.
Wagner stole 723 bases (he led the league 5 times), Clemente 83, and based on contemporary reports Wagner was a better base runner if not faster.
Wagner's oWAR/dWAR/oRAR of 123.0/21.3/1153 compares very favorably to Clemente's 71.0/12.1/673.

 

[PSU_Nut]

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Mays was 3 years older than Clemente and broke in MLB in 1951 or 4 years before Clemente. No doubt Mays was the better player in his prime and mostly because of his superior power numbers. He was also a better base runner in his prime. The comparisons late in their careers were because Clemente was still playing at an amazing level in his late 30's (he died at 37), while Mays was deteriorating by late 30's (38+) and was a shadow of his former self with the Mets in his 40's. I too really only started watching about 1965-1966 and saw Mays at the twilight of his amazing career and skills

 

[PSU_Nut]

Saw both play many times at Forbes field starting in the mid 50's. I have tremendous respect for Roberto as a player and humanitarian, but there was never a better all round player than Willie. Too early in McCutcheon's career to make a judgment.

 

[jj410]

Some Pirate fans are so deluded they actually think Clemente was better than Mays. No non-Pirate fan or baseball expert on the planet thinks that. In fact Clemente was probably not even the greatest Pirate.

It's too early to compare McCutcheon with Clemente. He has played only 7 years to Clemente's 18. So far he is a better hitter (OPS .885 vs. .834) and a maybe comparable fielder with not as good an arm. He has to go at least a half dozen more years at his current level to be seriously compared to Clemente.

Although it is true you can't compare eras, the greatest Pirate was probably Honus Wagner. Along with Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Christy Mathewson and Walter Johnson, he was one of the first five inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame in 1936.
Wagner's OBP/SLG/OPS of .391/.467/.858 compares favorably to Clemente's .359/.475/.834.
Wagner was a great SS , the most important defensive position, while Clemente played RF, not even the most important outfield position.
Wagner stole 723 bases (he led the league 5 times), Clemente 83, and based on contemporary reports Wagner was a better base runner if not faster.
Wagner's oWAR/dWAR/oRAR of 123.0/21.3/1153 compares very favorably to Clemente's 71.0/12.1/673.

PS: Mays had OBP/SLG/OPS of .384/.557/.941 and oWAR/DWAR/oRAR of 136.4/18.1/1310. Mays had 4 times as many SBs (led the league 4 times), was a better baserunner and was probably faster. Mays was probably the greatest fielding outfielder of all time, with an arm at least as good as Clemente's, which is saying something. Mays was great in every aspect of the game and had no weaknesses. There is no comparison.

 

[Carl Spackler]

Well certainly Cutch is an amazing talent and already has an MVP and almost another last year. He needs to play for another 10 years at a high level with big production to be considered in Clemente's class, but he may have to ability and longevity to do so. He may not need to get 3000 hits, but anything over 2500 would be worthy of comparison. He is a terrific centerfielder, but Clemente was the better outfielder and certainly had the better throwing arm. Power is pretty similar, although Clemente played in Forbes Field which was a cavernous ballpark for right handed hitters and hurt his HR production, which has been discussed often on the board. Let's see if Cutch can get to a world series and maybe lead the way (MVP) to add to his credentials. No doubt he potentially could be considered in Clemente's class someday and I'm a huge Clemente fan.
For the record, while people mention Barry Bonds early career in Pittsburgh as reminders of Clemente, the player that I felt had a chance to potentially exceed Clemente with hitting, fielding, throwing, hitting for power, etc.. was the Cincinnati Cobra, Dave Parker. He had all the tools and would have been an all time HOF player in my opinion, had it not been for his drug related issues with cocaine back in the early 80's , which led him out of Pittsburgh and eventually to the Reds and then the A's to finish his career. He lost probably 4-5 years of top production back in his prime, which now haunts him relative to his all time status and sure HOF career IMO. Amazingly talented ballplayer.

 

[Carl Spackler]

Well certainly Cutch is an amazing talent and already has an MVP and almost another last year. He needs to play for another 10 years at a high level with big production to be considered in Clemente's class, but he may have to ability and longevity to do so. He may not need to get 3000 hits, but anything over 2500 would be worthy of comparison. He is a terrific centerfielder, but Clemente was the better outfielder and certainly had the better throwing arm. Power is pretty similar, although Clemente played in Forbes Field which was a cavernous ballpark for right handed hitters and hurt his HR production, which has been discussed often on the board. Let's see if Cutch can get to a world series and maybe lead the way (MVP) to add to his credentials. No doubt he potentially could be considered in Clemente's class someday and I'm a huge Clemente fan.
For the record, while people mention Barry Bonds early career in Pittsburgh as reminders of Clemente, the player that I felt had a chance to potentially exceed Clemente with hitting, fielding, throwing, hitting for power, etc.. was the Cincinnati Cobra, Dave Parker. He had all the tools and would have been an all time HOF player in my opinion, had it not been for his drug related issues with cocaine back in the early 80's , which led him out of Pittsburgh and eventually to the Reds and then the A's to finish his career. He lost probably 4-5 years of top production back in his prime, which now haunts him relative to his all time status and sure HOF career IMO. Amazingly talented ballplayer.

I remember Parker well. He was one of the earlier players called a "super star". I did not see much super star performance out of him. He disappeared when the pressure was on and hit 4-6 in a nothing game where the bucs outscored the opposition by 8 runs. I think that is the real star power of a player, what do you do when the pressure is on, the playoffs or WS. Clemente did it all on the largest stage and died a hero helping earthquake victims. Parker snorted his super star image up his nose and Cutch is a very good player who is in a funny spot, he is credited with leading the bucs form the worst, most futile team in MLB from 1992 till 2012 into contention and for that he deserved kudos.

I was down on Cutch earlier this season when his average was under .200 but he made a heck of a comeback and deserves the credit for that improvement. Add in that his appears to be the most hit by pitch of all players and has lost games due to injury from being hit harms his position. Boy how I wish the bucs would take matters into their own hands and send the message that you don't mess with our star on the field, in the game. That league leading stat must turn around.

 

[fairgambit]

No. Clemente was a better hitter, a superior fielder, and could intimidate you with his arm. Roberto had a Hall of Fame career and did it in the face of racism and discrimination. As good a ballplayer as he was, he was an even better human being. He died in an effort to help earthquake victims. Most would have given a check, if they gave at all. He gave his money, his time, and in the end, himself.

 

[TheGLOV]

I remember Parker well. He was one of the earlier players called a "super star". I did not see much super star performance out of him. He disappeared when the pressure was on and hit 4-6 in a nothing game where the bucs outscored the opposition by 8 runs. I think that is the real star power of a player, what do you do when the pressure is on, the playoffs or WS. Clemente did it all on the largest stage and died a hero helping earthquake victims. Parker snorted his super star image up his nose and Cutch is a very good player who is in a funny spot, he is credited with leading the bucs form the worst, most futile team in MLB from 1992 till 2012 into contention and for that he deserved kudos.

I was down on Cutch earlier this season when his average was under .200 but he made a heck of a comeback and deserves the credit for that improvement. Add in that his appears to be the most hit by pitch of all players and has lost games due to injury from being hit harms his position. Boy how I wish the bucs would take matters into their own hands and send the message that you don't mess with our star on the field, in the game. That league leading stat must turn around.

Exactly.

 

[CappyToCJF]

Roberto Clemente has always been considered the best Pirate player ever. Pirate fans rarely dispute Clemente's place as the best in Pirate history. However, watching McCutchen progress I am beginning to wonder if he is approaching Clemente now and eventually will be better. McCutchen has a lot of Clemente's skills - hit, hit with power, run, field, throw. He doesn't have Clemente's flair but McCutchen might surpass Roberto's stats at the end of his career if he stays healthy.

What do the Pirate fans on this board think? Is McCutchen better than Clemente?

We should be able to figure it out in 10 or 15 years. When Cutch gets to or near to 3000 hits.

 

[john4psu]

Wagner should be considered the greatest Pirate ever but so few individuals are around who can tell you about The Flying Dutchman.

At this point in their respective careers, McCutchen is statistically ahead of Clemente and has accomplished more award wise. For example, Clemente won his one MVP award in 1966, Cutch already has won the award and finished second once I believe.

Clemente was an All-Decade player in the '60s. Cutch has a ways to go. Cutch is a fine individual off the field.

The city of Pittsburgh is fortunate to have both as Pirates, hopefully, lifelong Pirates.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

In a word; one simple yet powerful word: No!

This (but he's working on it!).

 

[WDLion]

Roberto Clemente has always been considered the best Pirate player ever. Pirate fans rarely dispute Clemente's place as the best in Pirate history. However, watching McCutchen progress I am beginning to wonder if he is approaching Clemente now and eventually will be better. McCutchen has a lot of Clemente's skills - hit, hit with power, run, field, throw. He doesn't have Clemente's flair but McCutchen might surpass Roberto's stats at the end of his career if he stays healthy.

What do the Pirate fans on this board think? Is McCutchen better than Clemente?

No!!!

 

[indoorgolf]

Some Pirate fans are so deluded they actually think Clemente was better than Mays. No non-Pirate fan or baseball expert on the planet thinks that. In fact Clemente was probably not even the greatest Pirate.

It's too early to compare McCutcheon with Clemente. He has played only 7 years to Clemente's 18. So far he is a better hitter (OPS .885 vs. .834) and a maybe comparable fielder with not as good an arm. He has to go at least a half dozen more years at his current level to be seriously compared to Clemente.

Although it is true you can't compare eras, the greatest Pirate was probably Honus Wagner. Along with Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Christy Mathewson and Walter Johnson, he was one of the first five inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame in 1936.
Wagner's OBP/SLG/OPS of .391/.467/.858 compares favorably to Clemente's .359/.475/.834.
Wagner was a great SS , the most important defensive position, while Clemente played RF, not even the most important outfield position.
Wagner stole 723 bases (he led the league 5 times), Clemente 83, and based on contemporary reports Wagner was a better base runner if not faster.
Wagner's oWAR/dWAR/oRAR of 123.0/21.3/1153 compares very favorably to Clemente's 71.0/12.1/673.

 

[indoorgolf]

Roberto is my favorite all time player but you are correct in saying Honus Wagner is the greatest Pirate player ever.

 

[OMPats13]

LOL.

Uh. No.

Anybody who would even ask that has absolutely no concept of Roberto Clemente.

And, no....he is NOT "well on his way." LOL

He's just another good ball player, and he'll never approach Clemente as an all around player.

If by not well on his way you mean that he doesn't have comparable stats at the similar stage of their career then you are right. He doesn't even half his career but he has at least equal stats at similar points.

Noone will ever match Clementes arm so take that out of the equation but otherwise, its similar

 

[PennStateNate]

Cutch is awesome, but has his douche moments off the field. Clemente was a humanitarian, who died trying to help others. There is no comparison in character.

 

[TheGLOV]

Some Pirate fans are so deluded they actually think Clemente was better than Mays.



He was in some ways better; in other ways his equal; and in other ways not as good.

Playing in a small market town compared to Aaron and Mays didn't give him equal exposure but he was a great player none-the-less.

 

[john4psu]

What douche moments PennStateNate? Can't call someone out without facts to back it up.

 

[Still in State College]

I find McCutchen to be a pretty mediocre outfielder. For a player with his speed he plays very deep. He probably has a slightly below average arm with which he never hits the cut-off man.

While fast he isn't a very good baserunner either.

Some of his issues seem to be the norm in MLB anymore where it has become all about hitting.

He is a very good player and is an easy guy to market. I would not call him an all time great, at least not yet