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Is This Nuts or What?

androcles

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..I just read the directions for parking on the Nittany Lion parking deck for wrestling matches at Rec Hall...
1. Get a parking ticket at the entrance to the the deck when entering...(as usual)...
2.Take the ticket with you.
3. After the match insert the ticket in one of the first floor pay-on-foot machines on the ground floor of the parking deck ... if you owe any money pay up...if you arrived within 1 1/2 hours of the match you owe nothing.
4. Proceed to your car with your validated ticket.
5.As you exit submit your ticket to raise the exit gate!!!
...So, if you arrive and park more than
1 1/2 hrs before the match for a brew at Whiskas you must pay to park .

I predict it will take 2 hours to empty the parking deck with lineups at the pay-on-foot machines and at the exit gates...I wonder who thought this up!
 
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..I just read the directions for parking on the Nittany Lion parking deck for wrestling matches at Rec Hall...
1. Get a parking ticket at the entrance to the the deck when entering...(as usual)...
2.Take the ticket with you.
3. After the match insert the ticket in one of the first floor pay-on-foot machines on the ground floor of the parking deck ... if you owe any money pay up...if you arrived within 1 1/2 hours of the match you owe nothing.
4. Proceed to your car with your validated ticket.
5.As you exit submit your ticket to raise the exit gate!!!
...So, if you arrive and park more than
1 1/2 hrs before the match for a brew at Whiskas you must pay to park .

I predict it will take 2 hours to empty the parking deck with lineups at the pay-on-foot machines and at the exit gates...I wonder who thought this up!
Thanks for posting. Just another money grab.

I can see it now....person gets to gate without validated ticket and has nowhere to go with 30 cars behind them.
 
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..I just read the directions for parking on the Nittany Lion parking deck for wrestling matches at Rec Hall...
1. Get a parking ticket at the entrance to the the deck when entering...(as usual)...
2.Take the ticket with you.
3. After the match insert the ticket in one of the first floor pay-on-foot machines on the ground floor of the parking deck ... if you owe any money pay up...if you arrived within 1 1/2 hours of the match you owe nothing.
4. Proceed to your car with your validated ticket.
5.As you exit submit your ticket to raise the exit gate!!!
...So, if you arrive and park more than
1 1/2 hrs before the match for a brew at Whiskas you must pay to park .

I predict it will take 2 hours to empty the parking deck with lineups at the pay-on-foot machines and at the exit gates...I wonder who thought this up!
Standard parking garage in any city since, oh, 2000 or so. Including, for example, the downtown Pugh St and Fraser St garages. Nice to see PSU joining this century.

If they have enough machines -- basically, at least as many machines as exit gates -- then it will go faster. Presuming everyone pays by credit card. Fumbling for cash and getting change slows it down.

There will be longer lines at the machines only because everyone is there at once -- but the payment itself is faster, flow of drivers walking to their cars is better regulated, and each gate lift is faster, so there's far less backup once in your car.

About 6 weeks ago I attended a show in Baltimore -- capacity was about half of Rec Hall, but the only parking was one garage adjoining a condo building -- no other garages or lots, and virtually no street parking. We were in Hunt Valley (I-83 north of Towson) 30 minutes after exiting the theater. Leaving the garage took about the same time as exiting the building from our seats.

Would be smarter to station 2 pay machines in each elevator lobby, but let's not get crazy, we're still talking about PSU here.
 
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Or you can park downtown, and enjoy the downtown a little on a Friday evening or Sunday early afternoon.

Walk around, have an adult beverage, buy a tee shirt, see a little of campus, get a breath of fresh air.

And not be trapped in a parking garage after the match.
 
...and if someone thinks the system is the same as the last 10 years and leaves the ticket in the car and gets down to the exit and can't get out the sound of blaring horns from behind will be heard on College Avenue...
 
...and if someone thinks the system is the same as the last 10 years and leaves the ticket in the car and gets down to the exit and can't get out the sound of blaring horns from behind will be heard on College Avenue...
Then those people will have a real incentive to get it right the next time. Seriously, isn't this why PSU sent out notices and why they'll have signs all over the garage? Again, this setup is over a decade old in State College and standard anywhere bigger.

Give yourself and your fellow fans more credit than this. This isn't reinventing the space shuttle.
 
Then those people will have a real incentive to get it right the next time. Seriously, isn't this why PSU sent out notices and why they'll have signs all over the garage? Again, this setup is over a decade old in State College and standard anywhere bigger.

Give yourself and your fellow fans more credit than this. This isn't reinventing the space shuttle.
Believing more than a handful of people out of several thousand are going to screw this up is not underestimating anybody.

Might b standard, but unless the lost revenue from the previous model is significant it seems to me to be an unnecessary inconvience.
 
Standard parking garage in any city since, oh, 2000 or so. Including, for example, the downtown Pugh St and Fraser St garages. Nice to see PSU joining this century.

If they have enough machines -- basically, at least as many machines as exit gates -- then it will go faster. Presuming everyone pays by credit card. Fumbling for cash and getting change slows it down.

There will be longer lines at the machines only because everyone is there at once -- but the payment itself is faster, flow of drivers walking to their cars is better regulated, and each gate lift is faster, so there's far less backup once in your car.

About 6 weeks ago I attended a show in Baltimore -- capacity was about half of Rec Hall, but the only parking was one garage adjoining a condo building -- no other garages or lots, and virtually no street parking. We were in Hunt Valley (I-83 north of Towson) 30 minutes after exiting the theater. Leaving the garage took about the same time as exiting the building from our seats.

Would be smarter to station 2 pay machines in each elevator lobby, but let's not get crazy, we're still talking about PSU here.

Sorry, forget about the pay stations, they probably won't be the problem. Just the delay of every car having to stop and insert their ticket as opposed to having the gates open as they usually are will delay things a LOT. The few times that the gates have closed for whatever reason it takes several hours for the garage to empty out.
 
May be a "money grab" long term...but that will take years. All 3 parking garages on campus (this one included) had physical equipment bought and installed to the tune of $1.8 million. This is not some conspiracy against wrestling fans, or fans of sports that have Rec Hall as their home.

Many of us reached out to the "parking" administrators real early in this project and asked that consideration to fans be given for wrestling matches, volleyball games, etc., so they can get out JUST AS QUICKLY AS BEFORE. We were told that "YES", that was the plan, and they were working with the Athletic Department. When I received my tickets, with the parking instructions, I was really surprised, as there's no way that will happen in my opinion.

If their process results in long delays, it is my hope that EVERYONE complains. I know I will.
 
May be a "money grab" long term...but that will take years. All 3 parking garages on campus (this one included) had physical equipment bought and installed to the tune of $1.8 million. This is not some conspiracy against wrestling fans, or fans of sports that have Rec Hall as their home.

Many of us reached out to the "parking" administrators real early in this project and asked that consideration to fans be given for wrestling matches, volleyball games, etc., so they can get out JUST AS QUICKLY AS BEFORE. We were told that "YES", that was the plan, and they were working with the Athletic Department. When I received my tickets, with the parking instructions, I was really surprised, as there's no way that will happen in my opinion.

If their process results in long delays, it is my hope that EVERYONE complains. I know I will.

I certainly will complain. This is one of those unintended consequences situations. Hopefully they realize that one size fits all is a bad idea for events at Rec Hall like wrestling duals and volleyball matches where thousands of people are leaving at the same time.
 
I certainly will complain. This is one of those unintended consequences situations. Hopefully they realize that one size fits all is a bad idea for events at Rec Hall like wrestling duals and volleyball matches where thousands of people are leaving at the same time.
Penn State officials are not well known for quickly realizing the obvious.
 
Here's the email I received.

Mr. XXXXXXXXX,

Thank you for contacting us. While we are still finalizing the process for Rec Hall event parking for our new gate and ticket equipment, one of our primary objectives will be to ensure that patrons are able to exit the deck after events as quickly as possible. We will work with Intercollegiate Athletics to disseminate this information prior to the start of the season.


If you have additional questions, please let us know.

Sincerely,
 
...why couldn't some smart guy in the parking authority just offer a season pass with your season tickets to park in the garage and have one attendant run an "express lane" for "no gate" entry and exit?... sorta like EZ Pass on the toll roads...
... oh, well...
 
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...why couldn't some smart guy in the parking authority just offer a season pass with your season tickets to park in the garage and have one attendant run an "express lane" for "no gate" entry and exit?... sorta like EZ Pass on the toll roads...
... oh, well...
At Penn State anytime they locate a smart guy working within the Penn State parking department they immediately transfer him before any harm is done
 
...they are only charging if you enter the deck more than 1 1/2 hours before the start of the match...
... how will that affect those who like to socialize with other friends at the Nittany Lion pub and meet in Whiskas for a drink ...?
 
...they are only charging if you enter the deck more than 1 1/2 hours before the start of the match...
... how will that affect those who like to socialize with other friends at the Nittany Lion pub and meet in Whiskas for a drink ...?

androcles, off the top of my head it's only a dollar an hour I believe with some maximum per day. So even if you get to Whiskers 3 hours before the dual it's only $2 so it's not real expensive.
 
If parking is free if you arrive within 1:30 of the match, can't fans arrive 1:25 before the match and still get a drink at Whiskers?

Or, can't fans get a drink afterward and parking is still free?
 
If parking is free if you arrive within 1:30 of the match, can't fans arrive 1:25 before the match and still get a drink at Whiskers?

Or, can't fans get a drink afterward and parking is still free?

Yes, parking is free for 1.5 hours before and after the dual, but you still have to go to the machines and get your ticket verified.
 
...so if you park 2 hrs. before, go to Whiskas and the 2 hr. match and get out an hour after the match it will cost $5...
 
...so if you park 2 hrs. before, go to Whiskas and the 2 hr. match and get out an hour after the match it will cost $5...

Should only be $1. The 5 hours beginning 1.5 hours before the dual to 1.5 hours after the dual are free for everyone, even if you didn't go to the dual meet.
 
At Penn State anytime they locate a smart guy working within the Penn State parking department they immediately transfer him before any harm is done
This is true of college campus's everywhere! Or, if we find out we hired someone to dumb to do anything else, we transfer them TO parking!
 
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The Battle at Parking Lot Ridge

The 2016 Garage Massacre

Descent into Hell - 2 hours trapped in the Nittany Parking Deck (narrated by Morgan Freeman)



Almost as scary as Count Floyd's 3D House of Pancakes
 
I wouldn't call it nothing. If we hadn't gotten worked up and if functioned the way PSU said it would it would have been a disaster.
I was at the WVB game vs Nebraska last weekend. The exit gates were up after that event, too. Not a big deal at all.
 
I was at the WVB game vs Nebraska last weekend. The exit gates were up after that event, too. Not a big deal at all.
once we got in, i asked an attendant if we needed a ticket to get out. he said it was free on weekends and the gates would be up.
 
...I wonder why they didn't note that the parking was "open" on weekends instead of sending what was included with the season tickets...
 
...I wonder why they didn't note that the parking was "open" on weekends instead of sending what was included with the season tickets...
Wondered the same thing...re-read it to make sure I wasn't losing it. Thank goodness I'm not :).
 
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