LOL.
The emails are clear and show that Tim steered the group away from reporting the incident to authorities. Sorry it doesn't fit you narrative.
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The emails are clear and show that Tim steered the group away from reporting the incident to authorities. Sorry it doesn't fit you narrative.
I'm saying that Paterno and MM told Curley and Shultz that something sexual occurred and then C&S spun it to be horseplay, sold that version to Spanier and then convinced him to not report the incident to authorities. Taking everything we know, that is the most logical scenario.
Very logical and there was so much for Curley and Schultz to gain by watering down the story. And such a very low likelihood that Spanier would ever run into Joe or McQueary to verify the horseplay version and find out that something "sexual" had occurred. Great plan.
You. Are. An. Idiot. Trust me on that.
Well, Paterno and MM never followed up with Spanier so it sure seems like it is logical.
So now we're back to "you don't know what they were talking about in those emails"?
Yes we do. We know what was planned, we know it was changed, and we know that at least one of them brought up being vulnerable for not having reported it (once the plan was changed to just informing TSM).
The person who was concerned about it happened to be a former family counselor, a profession that would require knowing the law.
But it's all coincidence and conspiracy. Never mind that they did reference "assessing it down the road" in 2001. That's all the conspiring needed in an email.
What did Joe Paterno have to gain by not reporting Jerry Sandusky, a former coach. NOTHING and nobody can ever answer that question logically who says he was in the wrong. He did not like Jerry at all to begin with, why would he cover up a thing for that guy. If any fool thinks Joe Paterno knew that JS was running around SC raping little boys and Joe knew yet did zero about it then you are as ignorant as the sidewalk you set your feet on.
He did report. It wasn't handled properly after that. He assumed it was. End of story.
Your scenario would only "seem" logical to a full fledged idiot. Which makes sense since it's your scenario.
the same losers
the same circle-jerk arguments
must be exhausting to be so stupid and so wrong ALL THE TIME for going on 6 years, right??
No, YOU'RE back to saying you don't know what they were talking about in those e-mails. Actually, you never got beyond that, which is why so many of these threads end up being the same argument over the same testimony.
Since you're such an expert, answer my actual question. If there was such a coverup going on for 14 years, why didn't Freeh find any e-mails pertaining to it after February 2001? Like I asked, wouldn't you expect there to be correspondence between CSS once word got out that Sandusky was being investigated? Or maybe they decided to use smoke signals and secret hand gestures.
are the words "molest" or "sexual" in those emails?
for people who obsess with taking "sexual nature" completely out of context, it is amazing they can also read words that AREN'T there as well
I know this, the morons don't so you must break it down to them even in their idiocy of thinking Joe did nothing, because thats how the Joe haters spew it. He did nothing, which we know is false. Either way, it makes no sense that Joe would do anything to cover for a guy he disliked who had nothing to do with program anymore.
Wrong all the time.... yet Sandusky is in jail and after nearly six years, you still have the minority opinion of the scandal.
As I said, Paterno didn't cover this up, but he didn't care enough to make sure that the men above him saw it through either. It is what it is.
No it actually didn't. But you are actually extremely dumb, so there's that.
BTW I keep saying you are dumb because the only other possible explanation for your posting pattern is that you are a troll. But you said you aren't a troll, and I have no reason not to believe you. So dumb it is.
That's pretty funny. Paterno didn't care enough to make sure the people who are trained and responsible for handling these situations saw it through? Why would that be his responsibility? You are completely off track on that point. Completely.
And I see the comedy team keeps rolling along. Since you have trouble with proper analysis: The plan NEVER changed. Computer Science 101= If-then statements. Go back and brush up, please.
Why again do you have to try and pin it on Paterno? He reported and got out of the way - AS HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO!
It's amazing how you can keep condemning the guy for doing the right thing
It's the cult patrol that does that. Report & get out of the way - ok, great, all agree.
Then the tinfoil cult members go a step too far and say because he got out of the way & never questioned CSS's actions, it proves they also did the right thing. It does not. It proves only that Joe reported and got out of the way.
That's right - they have a new name
THE TINFOIL FALSE NARRATIVE CULT ....
It's funny - actually it's not funny, it's very sad - that they don't project the same sort of energy in the right places. Here's a short list of who they should be mad at for the same reason they express anger with JVP
MM
MMs Dad
DrD
JL
DPW
CYS
RG/DA
JR and the rest of TSM
There are other players in the whole affair mind you but from the perspective of who should have "cared more", this is th starting point. This is a list of people who, if they did the right thing, would have stopped it in its tracks. But do you know what else is ironic - there are some on that list who are allowed to say "I didn't know JS was a Pedo" - yet Joe, the least important figure in the situation, isn't allowed to.
I'd like the Tinfoil False Narrative Cult to repeat after me.....
Paterno was THE most minimalist figure in this situation. Placing focus on him not only shows your true intentions (that you are NOT "about the kids"), it takes the focus off of where it should be in order to truly protect kids.
hey man, cut them some slack
these are the same nitwits who believe Bernie McCue and Vicky Triponey are credible sources
I don't think so. Not when the monster continued to show up in the football facility hanging around his program. You would think just once he would have said "hey Tim, wtf is going on here?" But he didn't care enough to do any thing. So 10 years later it all blew up and suddenly "Old Main screwed it up." Almost like "oh, now it is affecting me, so it's important." Great.
With the knowledge he had, I am highly disappointed that he didn't inquire about the issue once time passed and Jerry was still in the football facility hanging around his program. You need to understand that it bothers people.
I care a lot about my career, it's extremely demanding, and I don't have time to ensure that those above me are properly performing their job too. There is someone who they report to that does that. My superiors also have more experience and training to perform their role than I do, and it would be disrespectful to question the work they do. Given Joe ran one of the largest CFB programs in the country, I can't imaging how demanding his job was compared to mine.
This is all even more true if I am prohibited from intervening by company policy, such as with a personnel matter. It doesn't matter how much I care about the issue. I follow policy and expect that those above me, who have earned those positions, will faithfully perform their role.
Hmmm that's interesting because he wasn't the one who allowed him to "hang around"
Further what "knowledge" are you assuming he had
Why doesn't it bother the people who had the actual knowledge and the power to do something about it
You need to understand that This is NOT a Paterno thing - and you trying to make it one bothers people
Riddle me this coward.... how often did he show up around the football facility? Please provide your source.
Considering MM told Joe a watered down version of horseplay, why would JVP have any reason to question the outcome of Curley and Schultz's work, which Paterno wasn't privy to?
Your hindsight bias is showing.
Joe used those words ten years later. They have no value to me. The words Mike used in 2001 are the only ones that matter. Jive, a world class blockhead, can't get that through his thick skull.
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There was no change in the plan noted in the emails. The original plan included an option to contact DPW. The second email also notes an option to contact DPW.
No it doesn't. Reporting the incident to DPW remained an option throughout their discussion.
Logical? So in '98, when JS was on staff, the incident was reported to state child welfare agencies and fully investigated but in '01, when JS wasn't on staff, they thought they had to spin the story as something different? How is that logical?
You're looking at Jerry as monster after the fact. At the time of all these events, that opinion wasn't necessarily the case. All the actions after these incidents appear to indicate that everyone involved in these decisions thought Jerry was misunderstood and perhaps had boundary issues rather than a sexual perversion.
Some are not interested in real time, which is why Zenophile keeps asking the question, "What's the difference between 2001 and 2011?"
