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Journey Brown wins PA state 60 meter. Improves time AGAIN!

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Congrats to one of the fastest kids PSU has recruited in a while (in a track sense). He is 3 100s of second from the fastest time in the country. He has improved his time each time he has raced this winter. Barring injury, and with a reasonably warm spring, he should be in the 10.5-6 range for his senior spring. He has home run speed!

In the meantime, Jordan Geist, a shot putter from western PA, is closing in on the all time shot put record for indoors. Would love to see him get close to Michael Carter's outdoor record in the spring. This kid is unbelievable! He has already put a 16 lb shot (i.e. Olympic/college) over 68 feet.

I guess you have to either been in track and field, or love it, to care about this sort of thing.
 
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Thanks for the info. Hadn't heard about Geist, but the kid (from Knoch HS in Saxonburg) is amazing; won the PIAA Indoor meet by OVER 10 feet in the shot. And his best 16 lb shot performance would have won the NCAA title last spring. His college choice is Arizona.

Excited to see if Journey Brown's track speed translates well to top-level college football.
 
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19333lion said:
Congrats to one of the fastest kids PSU has recruited in a while (in a track sense). He is 3 100s of second from the fastest time in the country. He has improved his time each time he has raced this winter. Barring injury, and with a reasonably warm spring, he should be in the 10.5-6 range for his senior spring. He has home run speed!

In the meantime, Jordan Geist, a shot putter from western PA, is closing in on the all time shot put record for indoors. Would love to see him get close to Michael Carter's outdoor record in the spring. This kid is unbelievable! He has already put a 16 lb shot (i.e. Olympic/college) over 68 feet.

I guess you have to either been in track and field, or love it, to care about this sort of thing.
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What size is Mr. Geist? Does he play football? NT/C/OG possibility? I like interior OL or DL to have been dominant in Football, but to have been very good in either Track (Shot Put, Discus), Wrestling or Basketball....to show their athleticism in a different sport.
 
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What size is Mr. Geist? Does he play football? NT/C/OG possibility? I like interior OL or DL to have been dominant in Football, but to have been very good in either Track (Shot Put, Discus), Wrestling or Basketball....to show their athleticism in a different sport.
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Just looking at online info, he's approx. 6'2" and 250#

Has given up football and other sports to concentrate on throwing events, esp. the shot put
Which makes sense, because he is already World Class
 
19333lion said:
Congrats to one of the fastest kids PSU has recruited in a while (in a track sense). He is 3 100s of second from the fastest time in the country. He has improved his time each time he has raced this winter. Barring injury, and with a reasonably warm spring, he should be in the 10.5-6 range for his senior spring. He has home run speed!

In the meantime, Jordan Geist, a shot putter from western PA, is closing in on the all time shot put record for indoors. Would love to see him get close to Michael Carter's outdoor record in the spring. This kid is unbelievable! He has already put a 16 lb shot (i.e. Olympic/college) over 68 feet.

I guess you have to either been in track and field, or love it, to care about this sort of thing.
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The Geist numbers are amazing.
 
I'm actually excited about Brown on special teams coverage. We are stacked at RB with 4 and 5 star guys. But before this past year, we've needed these type of athletes on coverage. How many games have we lost giving up a KR or PR touchdown. He seems like a good kid and excited about the types of athletes CJF is bringing in.
 
ejb25 said:
I'm actually excited about Brown on special teams coverage. We are stacked at RB with 4 and 5 star guys. But before this past year, we've needed these type of athletes on coverage. How many games have we lost giving up a KR or PR touchdown. He seems like a good kid and excited about the types of athletes CJF is bringing in.
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IMHO, he likely would have been a 4* or 5* recruit had he transferred and played for Prep as he was seriously thinking about doing (Erie is about 40 minutes north of Meadville directly up I-79) - especially given Prep won another State Football Championship this past year. Actually glad he didn't do it given the way things worked out as he would have gotten a ton of recruiting attention at Prep from all the top programs....as it was, he flew under the radar despite putting up huge numbers in both Football & Track (a la another very good RB currently at PSU) and CJF pulled off a complete coup getting one of the finest, if not the finest, athletes in the state that could play multiple positions on either side of the ball, including SS, LB, RB, Flanker, WR, etc... depending on how he develops.
 
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By the numbers that JB has put up in sanctioned meets, he may well be the most under-looked FBS recruit in the entire nation by many factors over! IOW, there are a ton of FBS coaches at elite programs kicking themselves right now saying to themselves, "How in hell did our entire staff miss this kid?". Kids with this type of size and speed don't just grow on trees as evidenced by not only the consistency of Journey's 60 times, but where those times rank across the entire nation.
 
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A dollar for every track kid that people thought could play football. Let him show something on the field in college before underwear soiling commences.
 
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bkmtnittany1 said:
Every time I hear about this kid....he is faster than the last time I heard about him! Me thinks we got a steal!!!
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No doubt about it, if you adjust Journey's recruiting ranking to what it legitimately should be (4* or even 5*), PSU is easily a top 10 class - especially given their last addition on signing day (i.e., another 4*/5* type athleticism kid).
 
Lane said:
A dollar for every track kid that people thought could play football. Let him show something on the field in college before underwear soiling commences.
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Laughable bull$hit - Journey Brown has shown tremendous ability on the football field on both sides of the ball! Attempting to label him as a "track kid" identifies you as the lame loser ASWP douche you are...
 
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Lane said:
A dollar for every track kid that people thought could play football. Let him show something on the field in college before underwear soiling commences.
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Nobody is saying that Barkley should be looking over his shoulder, but it's not like the kid never picked up a football... he wrapped up his career with 7,027 yards, 104 touchdowns and a rushing average of 12.4 yards per carry.
 
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Ranger Dan said:
Nobody is saying that Barkley should be looking over his shoulder, but it's not like the kid never picked up a football... he wrapped up his career with 7,027 yards, 104 touchdowns and a rushing average of 12.4 yards per carry.
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What a piker....lucky if he could be a blocking back in ASWP's legendary lightening offense...
 
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ejb25 said:
I'm actually excited about Brown on special teams coverage. We are stacked at RB with 4 and 5 star guys. But before this past year, we've needed these type of athletes on coverage. How many games have we lost giving up a KR or PR touchdown. He seems like a good kid and excited about the types of athletes CJF is bringing in.
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You are joking right? You see no future at RB because h e played for a small school, got zero coverage and is a three star? Sequon was a four star and is the best RB next fall in the NCAA by a big margin. No other has all of his tools.
 
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Nobody is saying that Barkley should be looking over his shoulder, but it's not like the kid never picked up a football... he wrapped up his career with 7,027 yards, 104 touchdowns and a rushing average of 12.4 yards per carry.
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Check his Hudl video. You'll see that JB was set up in sort of a slot, not in the backfield. The offense was a bit different than standard. However, he shows obvious speed and I don't know what difference that offense made. What I do know is that he was not valued highly at RB based on his offer sheet. Why? Who knows?

Frank Restores of course has to go all radical pushing the kid up to 4-5 stars. Restores is from the Erie area so that may have something to do with his enthusiasm. High school football is over for this class. Stars don't count come August.
 
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You are joking right? You see no future at RB because h e played for a small school, got zero coverage and is a three star? Sequon was a four star and is the best RB next fall in the NCAA by a big margin. No other has all of his tools.
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Barkley was also a PIAA Schoolboy Sprint Champion just like Journey Brown....I believe Brown's meet times (especially in the 60) are even better than Say-Say's... Anybody who discounts Journey's abilities given the numbers he put up on both the football field and the track oval doesn't understand the history of PA Football players who also took home lots of hardware in PIAA and National Sprint Championships.....
 
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Franklin_Restores_TheTradition said:
Barkley was also a PIAA Schoolboy Sprint Champion just like Journey Brown....I believe Brown's meet times (especially in the 60) are even better than Say-Say's... Anybody who discounts Journey's abilities given the numbers he put up on both the football field and the track oval doesn't understand the history of PA Football players who also took home lots of hardware in PIAA and National Sprint Championships.....
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Not a close comparison as far as achievements on the track. Barkley failed to make the 100m finals at the 2015 PIAA, with a time of 11.28 that ranked #21 among the qualifiers; Barkley also has a Long Jump best of 21' 2.5"

Brown had a 10.62 100m on his way to the 2016 100m title at PIAA championships (his time in the finals was 10.73). His 60m time at the 2017 Indoor PIAA meet was an outstanding 6.80, and he has long-jumped over 22 feet.
 
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Not a close comparison as far as achievements on the track. Barkley failed to make the 100m finals at the 2015 PIAA, with a time of 11.28 that ranked #21 among the qualifiers; Barkley also has a Long Jump best of 21' 2.5"

Brown had a 10.62 100m on his way to the 2016 100m title at PIAA championships (his time in the finals was 10.73). His 60m time at the 2017 Indoor PIAA meet was an outstanding 6.80, and he has long-jumped over 22 feet.
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FIRE. BARKLEY. :eek:
 
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Not a close comparison as far as achievements on the track. Barkley failed to make the 100m finals at the 2015 PIAA, with a time of 11.28 that ranked #21 among the qualifiers; Barkley also has a Long Jump best of 21' 2.5"

Brown had a 10.62 100m on his way to the 2016 100m title at PIAA championships (his time in the finals was 10.73). His 60m time at the 2017 Indoor PIAA meet was an outstanding 6.80, and he has long-jumped over 22 feet.
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Agreed and understood.....that was my point, in terms of all the "measurables" in regards to raw athleticism (speed, long jump, vertical jump, etc....), you would clearly give the nod to Brown although both are off the charts in terms of proven "multi-discipline" athleticism. Just on his measurables as an athlete, Brown could play, and contribute, at any of multiple positions on either side of the ball (SS, LB, RB, WR, Flanker, etc...). Most here would have no way of knowing it, but Shane Conlan was recruited to PSU under near identical circumstances from tiny "Frewsburg, NY" which is coincidentally nearly the identical distance from Erie, PA except due East rather than due South (Frewsburg is a small town in extreme SW NY State south of Jamestown, NY which is on Lake Chautauqua - Frewsburg is ~55 miles from Erie going due East on I-86, while Meadville is ~45 miles going due South on I-79). Like Journey Brown, Conlan played RB and was primarily recruited on his RB numbers. Like JB, Conlan got very little attention outside of PSU as he played for tiny Frewsburg, NY (would be considered a 2*/3* type athlete today based on his offer sheet). Like JB, Conlan put up huge numbers in the NY small-school division. Like JB, Conlan was a multi-sport athlete at Frewsburg including Basketball and T&F. Conlan had an insane Vertical Leap and leaping ability in general, etc....

Although he was recruited as a RB, Conlan saw the field as a trFR when he got to PSU at Strong Safety - i.e. "Hero position" (same position JB plays on Defense) as well as STs!!! Conlan was still growing when he came to PSU and probably weighed about 195 lbs when he got there (I know for sure because I lived in West Halls with him) - Conlan ultimately grew to be 6' 4" and 240 lbs and made his biggest mark at LB. Moral of the story is that nobody has any clue where Journey Brown will make his mark either early in his career or late in his career because it is impossible to predict how he will develop physically, but his measurable athleticism and recorded numbers in terms of both raw speed and jumping ability say that he is likely to see the field and see it early imho.....whether it is STs, SS, Flanker, etc...is anybody's guess, but most great coaches don't waste athleticism and speed.....they get their speed and difference-makers on the field - as many as possible at the same time on both sides of the ball as well as STs.
 
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Hold your horses, I never said I see no future at RB. Not sure where you got that. I'm just bringing a different perspective on where else to be excited about with Journey.

Marylovesthelions said:
You are joking right? You see no future at RB because h e played for a small school, got zero coverage and is a three star? Sequon was a four star and is the best RB next fall in the NCAA by a big margin. No other has all of his tools.
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Franklin_Restores_TheTradition said:
Although he was recruited as a RB, Conlan saw the field as a trFR when he got to PSU at Strong Safety - i.e. "Hero position" (same position JB plays on Defense) as well as STs!!! Conlan was still growing when he came to PSU and probably weighed about 195 lbs when he got there (I know for sure because I lived in West Halls with him) - Conlan ultimately grew to be 6' 4" and 240 lbs and made his biggest mark at LB. Moral of the story is that nobody has any clue where Journey Brown will make his mark either early in his career or late in his career because it is impossible to predict how he will develop physically, but his measurable athleticism and recorded numbers in terms of both raw speed and jumping ability say that he is likely to see the field and see it early imho.....whether it is STs, SS, Flanker, etc...is anybody's guess, but most great coaches don't waste athleticism and speed.....they get their speed and difference-makers on the field - as many as possible at the same time on both sides of the ball as well as STs.
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According to Penn State's Media Guide, Conlan did not play as a true freshman in 1982 and was a redshirt freshman in 1983.
 
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Barkley was also a PIAA Schoolboy Sprint Champion just like Journey Brown....I believe Brown's meet times (especially in the 60) are even better than Say-Say's... Anybody who discounts Journey's abilities given the numbers he put up on both the football field and the track oval doesn't understand the history of PA Football players who also took home lots of hardware in PIAA and National Sprint Championships.....
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Off and running.
 
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According to Penn State's Media Guide, Conlan did not play as a true freshman in 1982 and was a redshirt freshman in 1983.
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My bad, I remember it that there was a lot of buzz about Conlan when he got to PSU and that he would be playing (I lived in West Halls at the time and lived next to several FB players including Steve Sefter who was in my dorm "house"....). Didn't remember the RS, but that is probably because it was driven by an injury he suffered in preparation for the 82 season - hit the following link: Chautauqua HOF - Shane Conlan. Here is the excerpt:

The spring of 1982 saw Conlan sign a football scholarship to Penn State. An injury made Conlan a red shirt that fall so he would still have four years of eligibility starting in 1983.
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This is the way I remember it - he was slated to see a lot of action his freshman year according to all the inside contacts I had, but I completely forgot that he got injured prior to the start of the 1982 Season.

In any event, Conlan came to PSU completely "under the radar" and under very similar circumstances as Journey Brown.....but everybody at PSU knew he was going to be a star from the very first moment they laid eyes on him.
 
A 6.8 would have put him in a 3 way tie at 4th in the Big Ten indoor,not to shabby.But,can he play and handle college?I most certainly hope so.
 
JB shows an awful lot of ability in his highlight videos. He can make cuts, which is much more important for a RB than raw speed. Saquon has very good raw speed and strength, as well as ankle breaking moves. I am excited to see what JB can do with his speed after he gets into the S & C program. No need to compare them quite yet. Just happy they are both Nittany Lions!
 
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Franklin_Restores_TheTradition said:
My bad, I remember it that there was a lot of buzz about Conlan when he got to PSU and that he would be playing (I lived in West Halls at the time and lived next to several FB players including Steve Sefter who was in my dorm "house"....). Didn't remember the RS, but that is probably because it was driven by an injury he suffered in preparation for the 82 season - hit the following link: Chautauqua HOF - Shane Conlan. Here is the excerpt:

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This is the way I remember it - he was slated to see a lot of action his freshman year according to all the inside contacts I had, but I completely forgot that he got injured prior to the start of the 1982 Season.

In any event, Conlan came to PSU completely "under the radar" and under very similar circumstances as Journey Brown.....but everybody at PSU knew he was going to be a star from the very first moment they laid eyes on him.
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You need to slow down, rest up. April is coming and you need to save yourself for your garrulous verbiage as the Masters unfolds.
 
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