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Juwan is transferring (LINK)

About to just embrace the NFL and all the crap it entails - at least everyone is paid. College Football has become a farce.

well, the way I look at it is that college football just got younger. We had, what, 11 kids sign early and enroll early. JJ graduated so there isn't anything new or smarmy in his situation specifically. Kids arrive a year earlier and leave a year earlier. As per the portal, we may pick up some kids too. time will tell.
 
well, the way I look at it is that college football just got younger. We had, what, 11 kids sign early and enroll early. JJ graduated so there isn't anything new or smarmy in his situation specifically. Kids arrive a year earlier and leave a year earlier. As per the portal, we may pick up some kids too. time will tell.

Now we have ‘the portal’....

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Huge loss. He still got the size and tools to have a solid year and be a huge asset.

i totally agree. his 2018 season was a combination of injuries, some bad luck (i.e. TD called back for OPI after minor contact) and some drops - but a couple big time plays. i think with a new QB he was going to shine.

if he does go, assume it will not be to another BIG team.
 
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I sincerely wish him all the best in the future and thanks for his time here. If he has his degree he may also have been judged by the coaching staff.

Like what others have said here, he may have been told, “Look if you want to play in over 60% of the snaps next year you are going to have to do that some place else.”

It just being honest with the players. It’s not always easy for the coaches to do, but if they told him that he may not start next year, then it makes sense for him to go someplace else and get more snaps.

But look, how many big time schools out there are going to want / need him? They will have to evaluate if he helps their team, is it worth a one year scholarship, what does it do to the chemistry of our WR meeting room.

So I think there’s a good chance he was nudge a bit.
 
I met one of his family members in Nov in his hometown (Glassboro NJ) and was told JJ was thinking he needed a fresh start. Felt it hadn’t clicked for him at PSU. Loved CJF and PSU but felt he had not reached his full potential and some other place might help him to get next level

Take it for what it’s worth.

I could definitely see this. There was much hype surrounding him entering 2017, and he only caught one TD and was outperformed by Hamilton. This year he was supposed to be the top dog, but again didn’t meet expectations. Whether it be coaching or effort, I can’t blame him for looking to make a change. Good luck to him wherever he ends up (unless it’s the opposing sideline).
 
How can explore other options without entering the portal? Wouldn't that be a violation?
I don’t think there’s any kind of enforceable violation in a scenario where, say, a high school coach communicates with a college coach and just *happens to mention* that one of his former players might be looking for a new home and whether there might be room for him, and what his projected role would be. There’s all sorts of ways to back channel these conversations without the player ever having a discussion with a college coach until he decides with certainty that he’s transferring.
 
you are not guaranteed to start with the talent we have now"
So, let me get this straight. If this was something shared with him, he "takes his ball and goes home" so to speak? I know you are not explicitly saying this was the conversation, but I'll ride the train with you.
Is this what college football has become? If I don't get the playing time; if I am told I need to work to keep my starting position; if I am not guaranteed the starting position; I pack bags and transfer.
And, to leave all decisions to a board with vague standards to follow, tells me the decisions will not be completed consistently.
I don't like it. Call me a "get off my lawn" old timer, but I just don't like the direction of college football.

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Just my opinion, but I like seeing the players have some control and options on these decisions, particularly those players who have earned degrees. It does complicate things for coaches but can also work to the benefit of a team if they add an important piece.
 
So, let me get this straight. If this was something shared with him, he "takes his ball and goes home" so to speak? I know you are not explicitly saying this was the conversation, but I'll ride the train with you.
Is this what college football has become? If I don't get the playing time; if I am told I need to work to keep my starting position; if I am not guaranteed the starting position; I pack bags and transfer.
And, to leave all decisions to a board with vague standards to follow, tells me the decisions will not be completed consistently.
I don't like it. Call me a "get off my lawn" old timer, but I just don't like the direction of college football.

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Considering he has his degree, it doesn't bother me AS bad. However, I agree with you. He should stick out around. He's still potentially our #1 WR.

Where he ends up will say a lot. If he ended up at, say, Clemson, it would seem he's eyeing a title a la Russell Wilson. If he lands at a school that isn't currently in the title hunt, it's possibly over playing time expectations and or a coaching change.
 
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It's a smart decision for him. He has talent but underperformed this year, and can easily become the #1 on a mid level P5 team. On the other hand, Hamler, Shorter and Dotson are all going to chip away at his PT if he stayed here.
Why does Daniel George always seem to get left out when we're having this "youngins" conversation? Actually, I think he needed to see more playing time this past season. Hamler and Dotson are great, but we need some big and powerful receivers to match the big DBs we're seeing more and more. George fits the bill. Let's not go to sleep on this kid.
 
I think PSU fans are going to have to get over their negative perception[/SIZE] of this whole transfer trend. If we are going to have players transferring out every year we are going to need to accept some incoming

Bullsheet!

Why should we not get mad/disappointed etc.?

We have the right to feel that way; anytime we want.

Can't agree with ya.
 
I think he would be better served as a TE.

Speaking of TE's, with the new offer that went out to the 2019 TE from FL, could that be an indication that there may be TE attrition coming up?

Hard to believe CJF wants to dedicate more than 6 scholarships to TE's.... Bowers was playing very well at the end of the season. First time totally healthy in some time. So I'm believing he comes back a plays a lot in 2019.

R-Sr. Nick Bowers (6-4/260)
R-Sr. Jonathan Holland (6-4/252)
R-Jr. Danny Dalton (6-4/247)
So. Pat Freiermuth (6-5/258)
R-Fr. Zack Kuntz (6-7/235)
Fr. Brenton Strange (6-5/210)
 
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LOL.


Why not just have them cut cards?

This made me literally laugh out loud.
Maybe a roll of the roulette wheel? Red, you stay where you’re at, black you go where you choose, green you must go to Rutgers. So, are you willing to risk it kid?
 
Considering he has his degree, it doesn't bother me AS bad. However, I agree with you. He should stick out around. He's still potentially our #1 WR.

Where he ends up will say a lot. If he ended up at, say, Clemson, it would seem he's eyeing a title a la Russell Wilson. If he lands at a school that isn't currently in the title hunt, it's possibly over playing time expectations and or a coaching change.

I think he's making a mistake.
 
I don't think at any time does it help for the team to get younger. Good luck young man, we will sure miss the leadership from an upperclassman.
 
Good for him and congratulations. But then why does he "need" to transfer to another school to play football...if he already has his degree?

IOW, how does JJ's transfer to another school in order to play football (presumably in a better situation than he thinks he has now) help further his education?

Again, I don't blame JJ or any of the other kids doing this for taking advantage of the situation...but if the mission is education, IMO the education obviously is no longer the focus.

Please tell me you aren’t just coming to the realization that when people have athletic jobs within their grasp that pay millions at the entry level but are only an option for a limited number of years, they focus on that a little more than the education that sets them up for a sweet $65k job that will be available the rest of their life.

I probably should’ve told you to sit down before reading that.
 
I was willing to be patient with JJ because of his size but I don't know where Polk fits. We have a lot of smaller WRs. Shorter is the only big WR next year.

And George, who is Godwin sized....

And Dunmore, who although thin is 6'2" and at least has H.S. highlights that show he plays pretty big.
 
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I think he's making a mistake.

Very possible, but we don't know the conversation he had with Franklin. If he was passed over by Shorter in the bowl game, it's not guaranteed he's a starter next year. The rest of the WR room is full of potential studs. Thus far, JJ is a guy who had Megatron Jr as labeled hype, but has roughly two big time catches under his belt since he's been here.

I'm sure he wants to go to the NFL if possible. For some reason, he's decided to pursue this at another school.
 
https://247sports.com/college/penn-...-Dotson-2019-receivers-127701453/#127701453_1

A look at Lions' 2019 WR group if Juwan Johnson transfers

By TYLER DONOHUE 114 minutes ago

Just 10 days removed from a Citrus Bowl appearance, Penn State has undergone swift changes in its receivers room.

Less than 24 hours after kickoff against Kentucky, the Nittany Lions announced receivers coach David Corley had been relieved of his duties. The former Army assistant spent one season in State College and, to this point, his firing represents the only Penn State coaching staff change.

“I appreciate David’s efforts this season but feel it is in our program’s best interest to make a change at this time,” Penn State head coach James Franklin said on Jan. 2 in a university-issued statement.

On Thursday afternoon, Franklin supplied another statement, welcoming Gerad Parker — a two-year member of the Duke offensive staff who previously spent four seasons at Purdue — in that role.

"He has a comprehensive background and knows the Big Ten," Franklin said. "He is a terrific fit for our staff, university and community. He has a great opportunity to come in and make a significant impact both on and off the field with a very talented position group!"

That position group is also in flux.

Senior DeAndre Thompkins wrapped up his collegiate career in the Citrus Bowl, and Friday afternoon brought another substantial development. Juwan Johnson, who earned his Penn State degree in December, has entered the NCAA transfer portal and would be able to play elsewhere next season without sitting out.

A redshirt junior with one remaining season of college eligibility, Johnson is the latest player to adopt this approach. Those who submit their names into the portal open the potential for other college coaches to make contact, though this step does not ensure an athlete will leave their current school.

Top quarterback talents Justin Fields (Georgia), Jalen Hurts (Alabama) and Tate Martell (Ohio State) recently landed in the spotlight for their portal entrees.

Johnson, who arrived in Happy Valley as a four-star prospect in 2015, has started 20 games since 2017, totaling 81 receptions for 1,123 yards and two touchdowns. Standing 6-foot-4, 225 pounds, he entered the 2018 season surrounded by intrigue as a potential breakout performer following the exit of leading Penn State pass targets Saquon Barkley, Mike Gesicki and DaeSean Hamilton.

His six receptions in a Week One win over Appalachian State proved to be a season-best, and Johnson surpassed 60 receiving yards — 72 yards during the first half at Indiana was his top 2018 output — in only three contests. Johnson accomplished that feat on seven occasions in 2017, when he established personal-highs for catches (54) and yards (701), and caught a game-winning touchdown toss as time expired at Iowa.

Drops and injuries plagued Johnson in 2018, and he was limited to 352 yards and one score on 25 receptions in 10 matchups.

“(He) obviously faced a little bit of adversity this year,” Franklin said before the Citrus Bowl. “I think it's a positive. That's kind of how we view things like that. You embrace it. He's going to grow from this. He's going to learn from this, not only as a football player but as a man. It's no different than any other adversity or challenge you face — if you approach it with the right mindset, you'll grow from it. You'll probably grow more than you would through success or things going easy."

If Johnson does indeed depart the program, he will leave Penn State — at this stage — with eight scholarship receivers in 2019. Only one of them has participated in more than 13 college games and, even with his inconsistencies and three missed contests, Johnson tied for third (with Thompkins) among Nittany Lions in total catches.

As things stand now, here's a look at scholarship players set to fill the PSU receivers room moving forward.

JAHAN DOTSON
2019 Class: Sophomore
Hometown: Nazareth, Pa.
Size: 5-11, 169 pounds
Games Played: 8Career Starts: 4
Career Stats: 13 receptions, 203 yards, 0 TDs

Penn State coaches initially entered the season leaning toward a redshirt for Jahan Dotson, though he warranted early praise throughout August camp. The former UCLA commit made his Nittany Lions debut Sept. 15 vs. Kent State but didn't see game action again until Oct. 20 at Indiana.

Dotson earned his first start Nov. 10 vs. Wisconsin and totaled a career-best 58 receiving yards the following week at Rutgers. He started the final four games of his true freshman campaign, and turned nine of 13 catches into first down pickups.

JOHN DUNMORE
2019 Class: True freshman
Hometown: Hollywood, Fla.
Size: 6-1, 180 pounds
Games Played: 0Career Starts: 0
Career Stats: 0

Miami made a late push to keep John Dunmore close to home but he opted to stick with a five-month commitment by signing with the Nittany Lions in December. Considered the No. 21 receiver recruit in 247Sports composite rankings, Dunmore started in the Under Armour All-America Game and remains Penn State's lone 2019 receiver recruit.

He collected 53 catches for 853 yards and eight touchdowns as a senior. Dunmore hauled in a touchdown reception during Chaminade-Madonna's state championship win, which was attended by Nittany Lions assistant Ja'Juan Seider.

DANIEL GEORGE
2019 Class: Redshirt freshman
Hometown: Fort Washington, Md.
Size: 6-2, 220 pounds
Games Played: 3Career Starts: 0
Career Stats: 2 receptions, 112 yards, 1 TD

Daniel George turned his first college catch (Sept. 15 vs. Kent State) into a Penn State record-setter. His 95-yard touchdown reception from quarterback Sean Clifford is the longest in school history.

George saw limited action the rest of the way, running routes at Indiana and gaining 17 yards on a pass vs. Maryland. He was twice recognized as the coaching staff's Scout Team Special Teams Player of the Week.

KJ HAMLER
2019 Class: Redshirt sophomore
Hometown: Pontiac, Mich.
Size: 5-9, 173 pounds
Games Played: 13Career Starts: 13
Career Stats: 42 receptions, 754 yards, 5 TDs

If Johnson is out of the equation, KJ Hamler — with one college season under his belt — suddenly becomes Penn State's most accomplished receiver in terms of statistics and games started. A scintillating playmaker who earned Freshman All-American honors at kick returner, he accounted for six total touchdowns (five receiving, one rushing) through his first six games and was named Big Ten Freshman of the Week after tallying 195 all-purpose yards and a 93-yard score against Ohio State.

Hamler didn't reach the end zone during the final seven contests, touching the ball on offense fewer than four times in three of the final five matchups. A passionate competitor, he vowed that Penn State receivers would return with more consistency in 2019 following a Citrus Bowl in which he caught one pass.

MAC HIPPENHAMMER
2019 Class: Redshirt sophomore


Hometown: Fort Wayne, Ind.
Size: 5-11, 177 pounds
Games Played: 12Career Starts: 1
Career Stats: 6 receptions, 103 yards, 1 TD

Mac Hippenhammer created some buzz in the 2018 Blue-White Game last April, catching a pair of touchdown passes. He reached the end zone for real in his second college appearance, targeted on an 11-yard scoring strike from Trace McSorley at Pittsburgh.

Hippenhammer, who is also a member of the Penn State baseball squad, collected half of his season reception total during an Oct. 13 loss to Michigan State. He didn't catch another pass in 2018, but did land in the starting lineup at Michigan.

BRANDON POLK
2019 Class: Redshirt senior
Hometown: Ashburn, Va.
Size: 5-9, 179 pounds
Games Played: 40Career Starts: 10
Career Stats: 27 receptions, 367 yards, 4 TDs

Brandon Polk saw his most extensive action in 2018, starting seven games. A former high school teammate of quarterback Trace McSorley, he didn't surpass two receptions in a single matchup, and a 55-yard effort against Kent State was his highest output.

Touchdown receptions in back-to-back contests (at Pittsburgh; vs. Kent State) created some early-season momentum but Polk struggled to secure pass targets and dealt with drop issues. He finished his redshirt junior campaign with nine catches for 162 yards and two scores, held without a reception during the final eight contests and supplanted in the starting lineup along the way.

JUSTIN SHORTER
2019 Class: Redshirt freshman
Hometown: Monmouth Junction, N.J.
Size: 6-4, 226 pounds
Games Played: 4Career Starts: 0
Career Stats: 3 receptions, 20 yards, 0 TDs

Considered the country's top overall 2018 receiver recruit, Justin Shorter became the highest-rated offensive prospect to sign with Penn State since 2005 (Derrick Williams). An undisclosed injury setback slowed his early development and, aside from a brief appearance vs. Kent State, he didn't run game routes until mid-November.

Shorter secured his first career catch, for three yards, against Wisconsin, and logged a nine-yard rush at Rutgers. He caught a pair of passes for 17 yards in the Citrus Bowl and, afterward, was pointed to by Trace McSorley and KJ Hamler as a fast-rising member of the offensive attack.

CAM SULLIVAN-BROWN
2019 Class: Redshirt sophomore
Hometown: Bowie, Md.
Size: 6-0, 188 pounds
Games Played: 13Career Starts: 1
Career Stats: 4 receptions, 49 yards, 0 TDs

Cam Sullivan-Brown reeled in his first college reception, for seven yards, against Michigan State. He then caught a pair of passes for 33 yards the next week at Indiana.

The remainder of his season was quiet from a production standpoint, though he did start at Rutgers. Sullivan-Brown recorded only one more reception (a nine-yard catch vs. Wisconsin) in the final six games.

INSIDE THE NUMBERS


Here's a look at career totals for scholarship Penn State receivers entering 2019 if Johnson is no longer on campus...

Games Played: 93; Polk leads with 40
Career Starts: 29; Hamler leads with 13
Career Stats: 97 receptions, 1,608 yards, 11
TDs; Hamler leads with 42-754-5

 
Definitely. This game is played 24/7/365 now. They can't put pads on and work on things like that, but this time of year is all about roster management. I think it's in the best interest for all:

JJ gets to find his new school, get acclimated. Spring practice, summer workouts, etc.

Our WR room gets to vie for #1 spot. We get to figure out who the 3 starters are instead of plugging in a #2 later.



Thought Brown left during the sanctions free walk away card spree...no?

Yes he did. Lewis left as a grad transfer
 
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I think PSU fans are going to have to get over their negative perception of this whole transfer trend. If we are going to have players transferring out every year we are going to need to accept some incoming

+1 I just don't see it as negative at all. Grad transfer is a really great thing. It provides a strong incentive for kids to stay on schedule academically. And then it allows the kid to get another year of scholarship and get started on a graduate degree.

For all we know JJ has been encouraged by the staff to do this. Remember schools aren't required to fund a 5th year scholarship for players they don't expect to be significant contributors. There is so much young wideout talent, it may be JJ's not being invited back for the fall. But even if he is, it's a good opportunity for him to see if A) there's a school that can offer him a better opportunity to develop as a player and B) there's a school that maybe offers a graduate degree program he really wants to pursue.

Meanwhile, PSU is a little short on the D-line -- maybe there's someplace out there with an oversupply of 320-pound D-tackles who can run, and PSU could pick one up. Or maybe there's a good solid D-tackle out there at a mid-major school who wouldn't mind playing for PSU for one year.
 
+1 I just don't see it as negative at all. Grad transfer is a really great thing. It provides a strong incentive for kids to stay on schedule academically. And then it allows the kid to get another year of scholarship and get started on a graduate degree.

For all we know JJ has been encouraged by the staff to do this. Remember schools aren't required to fund a 5th year scholarship for players they don't expect to be significant contributors. There is so much young wideout talent, it may be JJ's not being invited back for the fall. But even if he is, it's a good opportunity for him to see if A) there's a school that can offer him a better opportunity to develop as a player and B) there's a school that maybe offers a graduate degree program he really wants to pursue.

Meanwhile, PSU is a little short on the D-line -- maybe there's someplace out there with an oversupply of 320-pound D-tackles who can run, and PSU could pick one up.

Oh yea!

Loyalty be damned!

Negative and deserved!!
 
I also think that is short sighted. Galt’s kids have been killing it in the combine over the last couple years. He could get drafted on measurables alone if he stuck around. I think that might be as important as actual production at times for NFL teams.

I don't think JJ is anywhere close to being a viable NFL prospect at this point. He just didn't develop this year. He doesn't have NFL speed, he doesn't run great routes (after 4 years), he has trouble with press coverage with smaller defenders, he doesn't leap and high-point balls. His one asset aside from height was he showed very good hands in 2017 in limited touches. But that all went away last year.

He is a good college football player, a great guy and he will be successful in life. From all accounts he is a hard worker. But highly unlikely to be an NFL receiver despite his size. All the more reason he should move on and get the right master's degree that will help him in his next career.
 
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