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Juwan is transferring (LINK)

Meanwhile, PSU is a little short on the D-line -- maybe there's someplace out there with an oversupply of 320-pound D-tackles who can run, and PSU could pick one up. Or maybe there's a good solid D-tackle out there at a mid-major school who wouldn't mind playing for PSU for one year.

Yea, trade him!
 
I don’t get the Animosity. We don’t know his reasoning. Maybe he knew his playing time would be decreased and he wants to go somewhere
He can get more targets. Maybe he was frustrated being with his 3rd position coach. Maybe he felt
Like he never clicked at PSU and wants to try another school. This isn’t Silas Redd leaving in the midst of the scandal.

Johnson has some great games and some frustersating times at PSU. I’ll never forget the Iowa play. It was absolutely an amazing end to the game. He contributed to a lot of PSU’s success
In the last few years. He also had some rough patches.

He is leaving while the WR Corp is relatively stocked with young talent. If he feels
Like his best chances at success (and maybe in life) is at another school, I wish him good luck. I’ll certajnly root for him on Saturday’s next year, assuming he isn’t on the opposing sideline which seems unlikely.
 
I sincerely wish him all the best in the future and thanks for his time here. If he has his degree he may also have been judged by the coaching staff.

Like what others have said here, he may have been told, “Look if you want to play in over 60% of the snaps next year you are going to have to do that some place else.”

It just being honest with the players. It’s not always easy for the coaches to do, but if they told him that he may not start next year, then it makes sense for him to go someplace else and get more snaps.

But look, how many big time schools out there are going to want / need him? They will have to evaluate if he helps their team, is it worth a one year scholarship, what does it do to the chemistry of our WR meeting room.

So I think there’s a good chance he was nudge a bit.
I thought the same when I read the initial post in the thread.
 
Huge loss. He still got the size and tools to have a solid year and be a huge asset.
I dunno, it's been the same story over and over again with him. It's crazy how a dropped pass quickly spreads through the confidence of a team.

Johnson reminded me of Eddie Drummond a little bit this season. The ball would hit him right in the hands, and he'd drop it. With Johnson, I don't remember him dropping a pass that cost us any of the losses specifically, however the lack of confidence he showed started to spread to others. When Hamler dropped the ball over the middle VS KY I knew we were in trouble. When you've got issues in September, and now the team as a whole is having those issues, sometimes the only fix is to cut ties, unfortunately. It's like Dabo plucking his QB for the Freshman likewise with Saban & Tua.

Is it just me or is college football moving a lot quicker than it used to? I feel like the last few seasons have flown off the calendar, and the lull between seasons that used to feel like decades, now goes by as fast as the season. Obviously, the older you get the more they all blend together, but also the amount of content we all devour all season long lets the fans be more involved than ever even in the off season.

Outside of Johnson's insane grab VS OSU & the game winner at Iowa... mentioning Johnson usually comes with a deep sigh... "He'll get there..." at pretty much every tailgate I was at this season. He was the guy who just made sense to be good at football, why wasn't he good yet?

Timing is everything, and maybe it just didn't line up for him at State. It might be best for all of those involved if he finds a new place to finish out his college career, I'd hate to see him have another frustrating season as he closes out his college years. (think drummond)....Congrats to Juwan for getting his degree, he might really be happy he caught that if he fails to catch the football next year.

Also, might just be my perception... but, anyone else get the sense that Juwan never really had the desire to be on the field? Physically he looks the part, but he doesn't really seem like he's enjoying playing. Trace, Hamler, Barkley, Gesicki, are/were fun to watch because their love for playing was apparent.

Juwan comes from a family of NFL talent, part of me feels like he's been told his whole life he's going to be great at football because of his speed and size.. but does he really want to be on the field? I questioned that more than a few times this season. Not surprised he's questioning his future with the program.
 
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I don't think JJ is anywhere close to being a viable NFL prospect at this point. He just didn't develop this year. He doesn't have NFL speed, he doesn't run great routes (after 4 years), he has trouble with press coverage with smaller defenders, he doesn't leap and high-point balls. His one asset aside from height was he showed very good hands in 2017 in limited touches. But that all went away last year.

He is a good college football player, a great guy and he will be successful in life. From all accounts he is a hard worker. But highly unlikely to be an NFL receiver despite his size. All the more reason he should move on and get the right master's degree that will help him in his next career.

I think this might be a first in internet history, but I think you changed my mind. That was a well thought out argument.
 
I don't think JJ is anywhere close to being a viable NFL prospect at this point. He just didn't develop this year. He doesn't have NFL speed, he doesn't run great routes (after 4 years), he has trouble with press coverage with smaller defenders, he doesn't leap and high-point balls. His one asset aside from height was he showed very good hands in 2017 in limited touches. But that all went away last year.

He is a good college football player, a great guy and he will be successful in life. From all accounts he is a hard worker. But highly unlikely to be an NFL receiver despite his size. All the more reason he should move on and get the right master's degree that will help him in his next career.
Wow
 
not sure of capacity but video evidence of poor performance:

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Uh oh!
 
It does clear the decks for the young guys. He does have his degree so a grad transfer. Reminds me of Geno Lewis transferring to Oklahoma after a very up and down PSU career with more talented guys behind him.

Diff was Geno was very much on the rise and was a big loss (imo). JJ COULD become very good, but he has shown nothing to brag about. Maybe elsewhere he'll regain his mojo. [And here's a thought... didn't we just jettison our WR coach? Maybe that coach was the sole reason JJ was still on the field instead of the younglings.... maybe the writing was on the wall and he knew a change of scenery was best for him.]

That said, anyone watching Clemson (and others) wideouts knows we need to really step it up in that dept.
 
hmmm...well, lots of kids are just "exploring" so we'll see.

This is opening up what I kind of feared and that is a whole secondary recruiting scenario for the staff. So many good players in the portal that we know of already (Hurts, Wimbush, Martell) and those are just the QB's. There has to be a ton of position players out there too. There is going to have to be a program to retain players that enter the portal that you want to keep and a program to go after kids in the portal you want to attract. I wasn't prepared for it to be this big of a deal but it is going to be HUGE>
In this case I'm not weeping... but the whole concept is utter BS. You have a limited number of recruits you can go after and it's intended to fill needs... and then along comes this crock and you have needs you didn't fill because they didn't exist. Only now it's too late to fix it cuz signing period is over.

IMO, this helps the rich and hurts everyone else. The bamas and osu's and clemson's of the world have so much depth it really isn't an issue.. it helps them cull the herd, be rid of fringe players (regardless of talent). But most teams have a finite number of players who can really compete... to lose any of them is critical.

How to fix? EZ. EVERY PLAYER loses one year of eligibility and is req'd to sit it out.
 
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Why does Daniel George always seem to get left out when we're having this "youngins" conversation? Actually, I think he needed to see more playing time this past season. Hamler and Dotson are great, but we need some big and powerful receivers to match the big DBs we're seeing more and more. George fits the bill. Let's not go to sleep on this kid.

+100. Daniel George is my surprise player on offense this year.
 
Not so sure...we'll see. tOSU is, from what I am hearing, fairly confident they will retain Martells. When push come to shove, sometimes, what appeared to look good and fun isn't so when you are faced with that move. If CJF wants to keep him, he should listen. Much of what JJ faced was due to injury.
If they wanted to keep Martell why take Fields. It’s insulting and represents a lack of confidence.
 
He hardly played and had trouble holding on to the ball so saying it’s a huge loss seems extreme. WR and RB are 2 positions we have a ton of depth at.
Agree. It is a loss but one PSU should be able to absorb without substantial damage.
 
This would have been JJs year to shine. I don't think he can hold back the tide next year. He probably wants to go somewhere he can get the majority of the snaps. I don't think that would happen here next year. He seems like a good young man. I wish him well.
 
I agree. Potentially a real difference maker with us. I would have liked to see him compete. Good luck to him.
 
I agree. Potentially a real difference maker with us. I would have liked to see him compete. Good luck to him.

I think that every player has a scheduled "sit down" meeting with CJF. I also believe that Coach is completely honest and up front with each player about his prospects for the coming season. They discuss where the staff sees them on the depth chart etc. This is something the program owes to the young men who have committed here and more importantly the full disclosure avoids disruptive conflicts (as much as possible) as competition for the upcoming season commences.
With so much young talent at WR on the roster, I surmise that CJF told JJ that he would be competing for snaps. I can understand, if this happened, why JJ would look to move on to a location where he might be a bigger feature and earn an NFL look.
In my view JJ was a good kid. He fulfilled his commitment to PSU and PSU did the same for him. God Speed. I wish him well.
 
College football will be dialed back to what the Ivies are. There are no more than 20 college teams with the necessary financial means to succeed, and eventually the rest will be left behind. In a sense, that's already happened, but I fully expect that it will be happen officially in some kind of super-conference where only the best players play and the richest schools participate. And, we won't be one of them.

You're right, it's already happened! There's Bama. There's Clemson. The rest of us are cannon fodder.

I'm losing interest in college football real quick. It's why I don't follow MLB or NBA anymore. How can you remain loyal to a team which changes its personality drastically year over year. And that's the path CFB is going down. It's all about the individual and the money. Not about the school.
 
I dunno, it's been the same story over and over again with him. It's crazy how a dropped pass quickly spreads through the confidence of a team.

Johnson reminded me of Eddie Drummond a little bit this season. The ball would hit him right in the hands, and he'd drop it. With Johnson, I don't remember him dropping a pass that cost us any of the losses specifically, however the lack of confidence he showed started to spread to others. When Hamler dropped the ball over the middle VS KY I knew we were in trouble. When you've got issues in September, and now the team as a whole is having those issues, sometimes the only fix is to cut ties, unfortunately. It's like Dabo plucking his QB for the Freshman likewise with Saban & Tua.

Is it just me or is college football moving a lot quicker than it used to? I feel like the last few seasons have flown off the calendar, and the lull between seasons that used to feel like decades, now goes by as fast as the season. Obviously, the older you get the more they all blend together, but also the amount of content we all devour all season long lets the fans be more involved than ever even in the off season.

Outside of Johnson's insane grab VS OSU & the game winner at Iowa... mentioning Johnson usually comes with a deep sigh... "He'll get there..." at pretty much every tailgate I was at this season. He was the guy who just made sense to be good at football, why wasn't he good yet?

Timing is everything, and maybe it just didn't line up for him at State. It might be best for all of those involved if he finds a new place to finish out his college career, I'd hate to see him have another frustrating season as he closes out his college years. (think drummond)....Congrats to Juwan for getting his degree, he might really be happy he caught that if he fails to catch the football next year.

Also, might just be my perception... but, anyone else get the sense that Juwan never really had the desire to be on the field? Physically he looks the part, but he doesn't really seem like he's enjoying playing. Trace, Hamler, Barkley, Gesicki, are/were fun to watch because their love for playing was apparent.

Juwan comes from a family of NFL talent, part of me feels like he's been told his whole life he's going to be great at football because of his speed and size.. but does he really want to be on the field? I questioned that more than a few times this season. Not surprised he's questioning his future with the program.

your observations are true, but I am not sure we have often seen his 100% effort on the field. his speed was listed at 4.5 and we will know when he eventually goes to combine. however he did not look that fast - although his long stride is deceiving. his second injury this year happened on a long play vs Indy and he looked plenty fast there. he got called for several OPIs for pushing the DBs, and he clearly started letting them control him coming off the line. lots of things didn't workout for him at PSU but he may still be better than we all think.

i think he has the potential to be NFL at some point. moving for him is the best option so he can get a fresh start to show his true potential.
 
You're right, it's already happened! There's Bama. There's Clemson. The rest of us are cannon fodder.

I'm losing interest in college football real quick. It's why I don't follow MLB or NBA anymore. How can you remain loyal to a team which changes its personality drastically year over year. And that's the path CFB is going down. It's all about the individual and the money. Not about the school.

In the same boat. There is maybe a 10% chance any team other than Bama, Clemson, Georgia, Ohio State, or Oklahoma wins a NC in the next decade or so. And unlike pro football there is zero effort to level the playing field (best teams win, recruit better players, rinse, repeat). And now with the transfer portal, offseason coaching moves and social media recruiting nonsense (I saw a high school kid announce his transfer to another HS like it was the biggest deal in history), and the single worst 'playoff' system for any sport at any level, it's just not fun, and will likely get worse (once players *really* start to take advantage of the transfer portal crap). I'll still watch and root for Penn State, but have little interest beyond that. I did watch the NFL playoff games last week and they were really compelling. Can't wait to watch today too (first time I'll make an active effort in years).
 
Question regarding transfers. Is it possible that the coaching staff meets with a kid like Jawan to have a heart to heart? Perhaps future playing time is discussed or the possibility of not starting? Playing a different position?

I guess what I'm saying is could it be the coaching staff indirectly encouraging Jawan to move on?
 
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What this has become is the college football equivalent of free agency. In some respects I can't blame the kids, if that's what they really want, but if the goal is obtaining an education, how does transferring to another school to play football help to facilitate that?

Hell, I follow Penn State players as they wind their way through the NFL. I never thought I'd be a Cowboys fan but I love to see Sean Lee do well...and by extension that means rooting for the 'boys...sometimes. I was a bit conflicted last week with the Bears having ex-PSU players (e.g. - Allen Robinson) as well as the Eagles (Wisniewski). So, if JJ winds up going to the Tide, do I do the unthinkable and start rooting for Saban's crew, since JJ would be a former Penn Stater? Heresy!

I am beginning to think that the NFL needs a developmental league and colleges should dial football back to what the Ivy League is. The whole thing is devolving into a new order of insanity.
You know, I've been thinking this for awhile lately. And I think it may end up being a lot more fun for the players, coaches, and the fans.
 
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