Kane jury has a verdict....
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if all politicians who broke the law went to jail, that would be nice
not convinced Kane even broke the law
if you can't get your own head out of your partisan butt to understand that, you're a hopeless hack
True, although when I heard no defense witnesses were called, I thought it was folly and doomed to fail, especially with a high profile client like the PA Attorney General. I did allow for the possibility that the guy was brilliant, but to me, only a favorable verdict would have supported that position. Had she testified and been convicted I would not have questioned the strategy. This is the Attorney General of Pennsylvania, not some two bit street thug. I think most people, including jurors, would have expected her to take the stand. I know the Judge tells the jury not to hold that against her, but I personally think it is difficult for jurors to ignore. In the end, it is likely no strategy would have saved her.
You seem obsessed by Kane. I cannot begin to count how many posts you have made about her in recent months.
Do you plan to visit her in jail?
you seem obsessed with . . . ah just f**k off already
the fix was in and they knew it.
they're laying the groundwork for an appeal
SERIOUSLY, I cannot understand some idiots here. the people who took down Kane are THE SAME F**KING PEOPLE who trashed Penn State/Paterno
Only sheep celebrate political victories.
The meaning is pretty clear. I don't think it needs an explanation.
I might be able to answer that. Bear in mind I don't know how the OAG works, and how case files are handled. I have zero legal background.
I was under the impression that Bruce Beemer had the CSS prosecution, assured Kane it was a "slam dunk" when she took office and discussed transitory business, and politically, she could not re-assign the case to another prosecutor in the office, or drop the charges, as Beemer had leverage.
From what I understood, she should have removed Beemer as well, but there's that hindsight thing again.
Apparently, CSS lawyers had to try to get Beemer recused from the case. I don't know how that's done, or if it ever happened.
So I assume her hands were tied.
That said, Fina is long gone, as is Tom Corbett. Bruce Beemer is gone. I have no idea who has that flaming bag of dog shit that is the CSS file on their doorstep now. I would suspect Bruce Castor.
Castor knows it's shit. Kane knew it was shit. Beemer was the impediment. Friday is the due date for the Commonwealth.
So here we are. Experiencing yet another effect from Frank "Slapping Sounds" Fina, his rape narrative and Tom Corbett's vindictiveness.
Imagine if Corbett had just investigated Sandusky on already established, credible victim testimony and LEFT PENN STATE OUT OF IT - everyone in political office would have WON.
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Judging by how she has handled a plethora of issues......any book you shared with KK, you would need an 8-pack to make any use of.
you do realize she prosecuted significantly more drug dealers and sex offenders than previous AGs, right??
today was a great day for drug traffickers, child molesters, and partisan political hacks who have killed all their brain cells with too many cases of Golden Anniversary
Fina is certainly the genesis......and the worthy focal point for scorn and disgust.....but that is a given (for anyone with a room temperature IQ).
But...with regards to Kathleen Kane (the topic of the day):
She has shit the bed plenty enough times to be worthy of - if not scorn - at least disgust.
Disgust with how her bewildering ineptitude has allowed so much damage to remain in place.....at the very least
And the same goes for the worthless ass-wipe empty suits that she has immersed herself with (Castor and Gansler).
Screw those worthless bastards too. Nothing but a bunch of lazy, shiny penny, "tits on a bull", slop trough hogging jerk-offs.
Wen, don't take this the wrong way but why would Kane and now Castor concede to anyone on the outside looking in that a certain case is shit? These folks are all sworn to a certain level of professionalism, confidentiality and upholding the law - even if it's flawed and they don't see a path to victory. I take any statements they make to constituents such as yourself or myself in the context with which they are delivered. Politicians by nature are always gauging the situation, looking to win friends and then calculating how they will either deliver or not after they have influenced support from them.
Kane's platform was based on getting to bottom of the Jerry Sandusky investigation as a way to stick it Corbett and the rest and we all liked that idea. But I think people also took that to mean she was going to undo a lot of collateral damage caused by Jerry to the innocent victims such as C/S/S, Joe and the reputation of the university. But I don't think that was ever her intention. Just as it's not a priority for Wolf to scrap the current BOT config in favor of something that is fair and balanced. He has about 10000 other things that are more important to worry about.
Yes....I do.
I have mentioned repeatedly that she accomplished a lot (especially in light of the situation she walked into).....probably made mention of that fact at least once in this thread. (though I'd have to go back and check....and I don't feel like doing so at the moment).
I also have expressed the opinion that the entire KK prosecution was an INCREDIBLY hypocritical and agenda-driven affair......without question.
NONE OF THAT can excuse or explain her bewildering level of "f&ck up" with so many other issues.
And, unfortunately - her bewildering level of f&ck up....and the greedy, lazy, "piss-on-my-leg-and-tell-me-its-raining" bullshit from dipshits like Gansler and Castor - damages us all.
Then again....when our "own" A9 - the folks all of us have probably placed the most faith and trust in, out of any group in this entire fiasco - can "piss on our legs" as badly as those guys have done......can we even be surprised anymore?
Well, the jury was convinced that she broke the law. That is all that matters.
I'm not sure why you think name calling is appropriate. Fair minds can differ, without resorting to that.
That is FAR from the only thing that matters in this fiasco.
A scholar like you would probably be incapable of such analysis.
Sorry about that.....we all feel for you.
Y'know, I agree with the majority of what you write on here. The personal shot re: my intellect is beyond funny, though. I'll leave it at that.That is FAR from the only thing that matters in this fiasco.
A scholar like you would probably be incapable of such analysis.
Sorry about that.....we all feel for you.
My comment that you quoted was in response to the comment that a poster wasn't convinced KK broke the law. My point is that it doesn't matter what any of us thinks, it matters what the jury thinks. That truly is all that matters in any criminal case.
My comment was not with regard to the overall AG's office over that past 10 years. If it was, I would agree that there are a lot of things well beyond KK that should be investigated.
forgive me if I missed that post about her accomplishments
Kane was under attack from day 1. she decided to jump in the pig pit and roll in the mud
with that said, I go back to the real criticism her detractors have: she wasn't as good at being corrupt as the people already in power
I think she tried to hedge her bets, I think she tried to face fire with fire and made missteps trying to combat the unrepentant weasel squad.
That is FAR from the only thing that matters in this fiasco.
A scholar like you would probably be incapable of such analysis.
Sorry about that.....we all feel for you.
dammit, I put the idiot on ignore. is his post worth reading?
also, should I rub my chest with a cheese grater??
asking for a friend.
No. For most of us one has nothing to do with the other. You on the other hand have them linked which shows your obsession.
I applaud her for those efforts. My contention is more about her accomplishments with regard to Penn State, C/S/S, etc... We got the Mouton Report which was a complete turd and even that report was strictly focused on the how/when and not the why.
I thought you left or were banned? You're the one with the obsession
True - but if the "Feds" came into her Office of Attorney General, and said "we have the Second Mile" and to "scale the Moulton Report to just the investigation" - then without delving into Second Mile, we were no better off.
Same with Louis Freeh and his "mandate". Louis Freeh could never properly tell this story to the nation without stepping off the curb, strolling across Atherton and having his goons get into Dr. Jack Raykovitz's face.
O/T but I had a nice chat with Mark Pacella in the Charitable Trusts & Organizations division about Second Mile (and Hershey) yesterday.
Zwick99 is an asshole. No one here likes him except for maybe CR66 and Black Elmo.
That's a fair point. We haven't heard much from the feds at all which seems crazy given the level of state corruption we've witnessed. Wonder what's going on with them?
what wen said, plus the fact that we all know C/S/S aren't going to trial
it is just a matter of who gets the giant stink bomb thrown at them for dismissing the charges
I'll speak for everyone.
I believe that:
If there are 100 politicians who break the law, then 100 politicians should go to jail.
What actually happens:
If there are 100 politicians who break the law, then 1 politician will go to jail, and the other 99 will be too well connected (or will get immunity to testify against that 1) to go to jail.
So, you don't come off as a reasonable poster and seem a lot more goofy or obsessive than him.
and you will have 100 blithering idiots saying how that 1 politician is the most crooked and deserves to go to jail.
I can think of 630 reasons to put zwick on ignore. 630.
SIMPLE...When the round and round we go of the musical chairs for judges stops.....the last judge standing will make the decision.
Hopefully soon the musical chairs will stop.SIMPLE...When the round and round we go of the musical chairs for judges stops.....the last judge standing will make the decision.
I believe we are on the fifth or sixth judge...neither the AG or the judges want to be stuck with this bag of horse$hit, nor does the political establishment want a trial.
As long as the body is dead in the water, leave it there and don't try to resurrect it. that only happens on Easter Sunday
but at some point you need to either have the trial or not have the trial. I know it is more than likely to not have the trial. I also believe JS will be getting a new trial.I believe we are on the fifth or sixth judge...neither the AG or the judges want to be stuck with this bag of horse$hit, nor does the political establishment want a trial.
As long as the body is dead in the water, leave it there and don't try to resurrect it. that only happens on Easter Sunday
True. I will add that for most people, if a politician they support is among the 99 who go free, they will accept and justify that, while condemning the other 98.
