Know Your Penn State Wrestlers (KYPSW) 2017-18

[pawrestlersintn]

Really like how so many people are participating in this and hoping there are more before tonight hits. will be f** to banter about once the real schedule hits.

#whodoesntlikebraggingrights

Latest count is 39, evenly split between the two boards. I can tell you from prior years, there will be a huge influx shortly before match time. I'm guessing we'll have 60-70, by the time all is said and done.

 

[LemonPie]

Just one prediction. Cassar major.

 

[ZepGraffiti]

ARMY:

125: Army dec PSU
133: Keener maj
141: Cortez maj
149: Retherford fall
157: Nolf fall
165: Joseph TF
174: Hall maj
184: Nickal fall
197: Cutch dec or Caywood dec other
285: Nevills TF

 

[Cali_Nittany]

ARMY

125 Army Dec
133 Keener Dec
141 Cortez MD
149 Zain Fall
157 Nolf Fall
165 Joseph TF
174 Hall Fall
184 Nickal Fall
197 Cassar MD, Cutch Dec
Heavy Nevills Fall

It's going to be a fall harvest festival.

 

[Afw6006]

PSU vs. Army

125 - Chalifoux DEC
133 - Keener DEC
141 - Cortez MD
149 - Retherford FALL
157 - Nolf FALL
165 - Joseph MD
174 - Hall FALL
184 - Nickal FALL
197 - McC DEC or Cassar MD
285 - Nevills FALL

 

[bigbopper1985]

Army
125 - Army dec any PSU
133 - Keener Dec
141 - Cortez - major
149 - Zain - Fall
157 - Nolf - Tech
165 - Cenzo - Major
174 - Hall - Tech
184 - Nickal - Fall
197 - Cassar - Major or
Cutch - Dec or
Rasheed - Major
285 - Nevills - Major

 

[Dr.TobiasZoidberg]

ARMY

125- Any PSU DEC
133- Keener Dec
141- Cortez MD
149- Rutherford F
157- Nolf F
165- Joseph F
174- Hall TF
184- Nickel F
197- Cassar TF Cutch MD
HWT- Nevills MD

 

[dicemen99]

How about another contest to see who can pick the dual Roar picks the first PSU individual loss?

Just some friendly ribbing, love the enthusiasm

 

[pawrestlersintn]

ARMY

125- Any PSU DEC
133- Keener Dec
141- Cortez MD
149- Rutherford F
157- Nolf F
165- Joseph F
174- Hall TF
184- Nickel F
197- Cassar TF Cutch MD
HWT- Nevills MD

#yournameistoowideformyspreadsheet

 

[HOCKEYGOD11]

BUCKNELL

125 Any PSU Dec
133 Keener MD Any
141 Smith Dec Any PSU
149 Zain Fall
157 Nolf Fall Any
165 Joseph MD
174 Hall Fall
184 Nickal Fall
197 PSU (Any) Dec Sleigh, PSU MD any other Bucknell
HWT - Nevills Fall

 

[CropDuster507]

ARMY
125- Chalifoux DEC any PSU
133- Keener MAJ Peters
141- Cortez TECH FALL Harry
149- Zain FALL Kelly
157- Nolf FALL Weiland
165- Joseph TECH FALL Mendel
174- Hall TECH FALL Harvey
184- Nickal FALL either Army guy
197- Any PSU DEC Caywood
285- Nevills FALL Heald

I'm overzealous, but hey, they've done worse to better teams. PSU 42 Army 3

 

[Tom McAndrew]

ARMY

125: Chalifoux WBD over ANY PSU
133: Keener WBF over Peters
141: Any PSU WBMD over Harry
149: Zain WBF over ANY Army
157: Nolf WBF over ANY Army
165: Joseph WBMD over Mendel
174: Hall WBMD over Harvey
184: Nickal WBF over Stewart
197: ANY PSU WBD over Caywood
285: Nevills WBF over Heald

 

[Tom McAndrew]

While it is okay to post both matches in one message, just bear in mind that should you have to change a pick for the second match, before I have scored the first match, I will have no idea if you edited your first match picks.

my suggestion for future weekends when there are two duals is to place each dual in a separate thread.

 

[Lion-around]

ARMY

125 - PSU Dec; 3-0
133 - Keener Dec; 6-0
141 - Cortez Dec; 9-0
149 - Retherford WBF; 15-0
157 - Nolf WBF; 21-0
165 - Cenzo MD; 25 -0
174 - Hall MD; 29-0
184 - Nickal WBF; 35-0
197 - PSU MD; 39-0
285 - Nevills MD; 43-0

BUCKNELL

125 - PSU Dec; 3-0
133 - Keener Dec; 6-0
141 - Smith Dec; 6-3
149 - Retherford WBF; 12-3
157 - Nolf WBF; 18-3
165 - Cenzo TF; 23-3
174 - Hall TF; 28-3
184 - Nickal WBF; 34-3
197 - PSU Dec; 37-3
285 - Nevills MD; 41-3

 

[HOCKEYGOD11]

my suggestion for future weekends when there are two duals is to place each dual in a separate thread.

Yeah this really is the way it has always been done over at FOS... Otherwise as pawrestlersintn said, he can't tell if you edited the first match after it has already been wrestled or edited the second match in between..

 

[RoarLions1]

How about another contest to see who can pick the dual Roar picks the first PSU individual loss?

Just some friendly ribbing, love the enthusiasm

Read my two dual meet guesses. Prego!! Still rooting for the PSU guy though .

 

[pawrestlersintn]

Yeah this really is the way it has always been done over at FOS... Otherwise as pawrestlersintn said, he can't tell if you edited the first match after it has already been wrestled or edited the second match in between..

Tom means in a separate thread, not separating the duals within the same thread. And, Tom, I hear what you're saying. I'm afraid if we have separate threads, then some will post their picks in one thread and some will post in the other. Then, I'll be trying to manage picks in two threads.

I'm going to let that idea bounce around my echo chamber for a while though.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

I'm afraid if we have separate threads, then some will post their picks in one thread and some will post in the other.

I think folks will get with the process pretty quickly.

The other advantage is that as long as I'm free (won't always be the case), I can lock a thread once a dual starts, and thus there won't be any complaints about edits. The downside of that is that it wouldn't allow you to reply to that thread with the results.

Any idea of how you'd like to handle results posts? That could be a separate thread that is pinned. Let me know what you think would work best.

 

[pawrestlersintn]

I think folks will get with the process pretty quickly.

The other advantage is that as long as I'm free (won't always be the case), I can lock a thread once a dual starts, and thus there won't be any complaints about edits. The downside of that is that it wouldn't allow you to reply to that thread with the results.

Any idea of how you'd like to handle results posts? That could be a separate thread that is pinned. Let me know what you think would work best.

Steps for reporting results.
1. Copy results from spreadsheet.
2. Open a reply window to this thread.
3. Right click to open the toolbar with 'paste' in it.
4. Hover my pointer over 'paste', close my eyes, stand as far from my computer as I can, and click 'paste'.
5. Squint 1 eye open to see how awful the formatting got screwed up.

Haha.

As far as where I post them, in the past, there have just been two posts of results after each match, one for the match and one for season to date, within the one long KYPSW thread.

Let's hold off on making a decision, though, until I do see how the formatting is. If it is good, then a pinned post just for those results might work great. If the formatting is bad, I may just post a google docs link to the spreadsheet for people to look at.

Thanks for the ideas!

As far as folks getting with the process, you'd be surprised. No matter how much begging I do, some people still can't seem to format their picks "correctly."

 

[sneedram55]

ARMY

125 Any PSU Dec
133 Keener MD
141 Any PSU Dec
149 Zain Fall
157 Nolf Fall
165 Joseph MD
174 Hall MD
184 Nickal Fall
197 Any PSU MD
HWT - Nevills TF

 

[dicemen99]

Read my two dual meet guesses. Prego!! Still rooting for the PSU guy though .

Damn! I missed Smith. So much for my attempt at humor. I'm was contemplating picking him as well, but went the other way. Might have to rethink that. Prego? Assuming this is an autocorrect?

 

[Dr.TobiasZoidberg]

#yournameistoowideformyspreadsheet

Zoidberg is acceptable amongst friends

 

[RoarLions1]

Damn! I missed Smith. So much for my attempt at humor. I'm was contemplating picking him as well, but went the other way. Might have to rethink that. Prego? Assuming this is an autocorrect?

"Prego", like the sauce commercial..."it's in there". Just wanted you to look.

GO LIONS!! WE ARE!!

 

[pawrestlersintn]

Update: we are at an even 50, 2 1/2 hours before match time.

And, I'm heading out the door, on my way to the match!

WE ARE!!!

 

[sneedram55]

Posting these picks for ....

Snydleywhiplash69...

He's on his way to the match and can't post them himself.. thanks


ARMY

125 Any PSU Dec
133 Keener Dec
141 Any PSU Dec
149 Zain Fall
157 Nolf TF
165 Joseph TF
174 Hall MD
184 Nickal Fall
197 Any PSU Dec
HWT - Nevills MD

 

[Onceafish]

ARMY

125 Chalifoux DEC
133 Keener DEC
141 Cortez MD
149 Zain WBF
157 Nolf TF
165 Joseph MD
174 Hall MD
184 Nickal WBF
197 Cassar DEC
HWT - Nevills WBF

 

[pawrestlersintn]

Only pick i will make. 141 Army 4- PSU 2. Go Army!!

You have scored 0 points in KYPSW. Thanks for playing.

 

[pawrestlersintn]

Army Match Results

We had 58 players for the first dual-board KYPSW contest. There was fairly even representation, with 30 from BWI and 28 from 247Sports. That is very close to the number that we had last year and is a very manageable number for me.

Here's how this typically works...After each match, I will post the results and some commentary, usually with some words of praise for the match winner, and some words of derision for guys at the bottom or for someone that made some really strange prediction. And, I try to pick out anything that is noteworthy from the match scoring. It's all in good fun, so no one needs to get their feelings hurt. There's a good Ames2state joke in there, but I'll let it alone. Now, that joke is going to go over half the field's head, which is going to happen from time to time, since this is a dual-board contest. Oh, well, not really much we can do about it.

Without further ado, let's talk results. Scores ranged from 27 down to 20, which is not particularly surprising, because of PSU domination of their opponent. In fact in the 9 bouts other than 125, the picks were unanimous. Well, unanimous, except for one lonely pick of Caywood winning, but since this is the first week, we won't call out the guy who picked Caywood. Okay, Zepgraffiti? Picking the win type is always the most difficult, and where most people lost points was in being too conservative. I mean, come on Keener, dropping a guy in a headlock in your first Rec Hall match? Wrestlingeek and Tom McAndrew were the only two that saw that coming.

Speaking of Tom McAndrew, congratulations for being the Army match winner, with 27 points, 10 correct picks and 7 correct bonus types. Fire. At the other end of the spectrum, Dunkej01 earlier this week posted #whodoesntlikebraggingrights. To that, I say, #youhaveworktodo.

All results can be found here: https://1drv.ms/x/s!AgIuIfEVPiv0dC2nceAGWsRqnK8

Read more
. You'll notice there are currently two tabs, Army and YTD. Match results can be found beginning in column AP, and YTD results can be found beginning in column BM in that spreadsheet.

As always, if you see a mistake, let me know. It is particularly helpful if you tell me what page your picks were in.

 

[dunkej01]

Its a rigged system

#givingyouguysaheadstart
#itsTomsworldweneedhimhappy
#losingtotheguywhopickedcawoodWTF

 

[pawrestlersintn]

This is what I was afraid of...

Individual Bouts
Rank Member Name Picks Bonus Total 125 133 141 149 157 165 174 184 197 285
1 Tom McAndrew 20 7 27 3 3 2 2 2 3 3 2 3 3
2 Wrestlingeek 20 6 26 3 3 2 2 2 3 2 2 3 3
3 dicemen99 20 6 26 3 2 3 3 2 3 2 2 3 3
4 HockeyGod11 20 6 26 3 2 2 2 2 3 3 2 3 3
5 tikk10 20 6 26 3 2 3 3 2 3 3 2 3 3
6 Eastern HWT 20 6 26 3 2 3 3 2 3 3 2 2 3
7 jbkeller72 20 6 26 3 2 2 2 2 3 3 2 3 3
8 Afw6006 20 6 26 3 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 2
9 kingston1990 20 5 25 3 2 2 2 2 3 3 2 3 2
10 NoVaLion 20 5 25 3 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 3 3
11 Pulpatine 20 5 25 3 2 2 2 3 3 3 2 2 3
12 Cali_Nittany 20 5 25 3 2 2 2 2 3 2 3 3 2
13 CropDuster507 20 5 25 3 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 3 3
14 Onceafish 20 5 25 3 2 2 2 2 2 3 2 3 3
15 dwyoder 20 4 24 3 2 2 2 3 2 3 2 2 3
16 Chromehill 18 6 24 0 2 3 3 2 3 2 3 3 3
17 bdoncsecz 18 6 24 0 2 3 3 2 3 3 3 3 2
18 PSUflyfisher 20 4 24 3 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 3 3
19 Gumby79 20 4 24 3 2 3 3 2 2 2 2 3 2
20 funkisfun12 20 4 24 3 2 2 2 2 3 2 3 3 2
21 cle1995 18 5 23 0 2 2 2 2 3 3 2 3 3
22 oldnittany1986 18 5 23 0 2 3 3 2 3 2 3 3 2
23 jayhouse 18 5 23 0 3 2 2 2 3 2 2 3 3
24 Potterlion 18 5 23 0 2 3 3 2 3 3 2 3 3
25 nittinSC 18 5 23 0 2 2 2 2 3 3 2 3 3
26 difft 18 5 23 0 2 3 3 2 3 2 3 3 2
27 RoarLions1 18 5 23 0 2 3 3 2 3 3 2 3 3
28 a_mshaffer 18 5 23 0 2 2 2 2 3 3 2 3 3
29 purescurve 20 3 23 3 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 3 2
30 Bigbopper1985 20 3 23 3 2 2 2 2 2 3 2 3 2
31 Acacia71 18 4 22 0 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 3 3
32 djcline 18 4 22 0 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 2
33 tom1973 18 4 22 0 2 2 2 2 3 3 2 3 3
34 jimbokropf 18 4 22 0 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 3 3
35 LionRooter 18 4 22 0 2 3 3 2 3 3 2 3 2
36 duslupan92 18 4 22 0 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 3 3
37 Lazlo 18 4 22 0 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 3 3
38 grapplecat 18 4 22 0 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 3 3
39 pfb82 18 4 22 0 2 2 2 2 3 2 3 3 3
40 Garrett Carr 18 4 22 0 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 3 3
41 Borderlion78 18 4 22 0 2 3 3 2 3 3 2 3 2
42 lionmd 18 4 22 0 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 3 3
43 johnstownsteel 18 4 22 0 2 2 2 2 2 3 2 3 3
44 lobo lion 18 4 22 0 2 2 2 2 3 3 2 3 2
45 psumacw 18 4 22 0 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 2 3
46 Lion_around 18 4 22 0 2 3 3 2 3 3 2 3 2
47 sneedram55 18 4 22 0 2 3 3 2 3 3 2 3 2
48 NoVaLion2 18 3 21 0 2 2 2 3 2 3 2 2 3
49 LionsBrew 18 3 21 0 2 2 2 2 2 3 2 3 3
50 Justin6 18 3 21 0 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 2
51 Crunched 18 3 21 0 2 2 2 2 2 3 2 3 3
52 1AA 18 3 21 0 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 3 2
53 ZepGraffiti 18 3 21 3 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 3 0
54 Snydleywhiplash69 18 3 21 0 2 3 3 2 2 2 2 3 3
55 Nittany Sluggo 18 2 20 0 2 3 3 2 2 2 2 3 2
56 dunkej01 18 2 20 0 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 3 2
57 Lyco1990 18 2 20 0 2 2 2 2 2 3 2 3 2
58 Dr.TobiasZoidberg 18 2 20 0 2 2 2 2 3 2 2 3 2

 

[dunkej01]

This is what I was afraid of...

Can you do a print screen of the spreadsheet and post that as an image?

 

[tikk10]

Army Match Results

We had 58 players for the first dual-board KYPSW contest. There was fairly even representation, with 30 from BWI and 28 from 247Sports. That is very close to the number that we had last year and is a very manageable number for me.

Here's how this typically works...After each match, I will post the results and some commentary, usually with some words of praise for the match winner, and some words of derision for guys at the bottom or for someone that made some really strange prediction. And, I try to pick out anything that is noteworthy from the match scoring. It's all in good fun, so no one needs to get their feelings hurt. There's a good Ames2state joke in there, but I'll let it alone. Now, that joke is going to go over half the field's head, which is going to happen from time to time, since this is a dual-board contest. Oh, well, not really much we can do about it.

Without further ado, let's talk results. Scores ranged from 27 down to 20, which is not particularly surprising, because of PSU domination of their opponent. In fact in the 9 bouts other than 125, the picks were unanimous. Well, unanimous, except for one lonely pick of Caywood winning, but since this is the first week, we won't call out the guy who picked Caywood. Okay, Zepgraffiti? Picking the win type is always the most difficult, and where most people lost points was in being too conservative. I mean, come on Keener, dropping a guy in a headlock in your first Rec Hall match? Wrestlingeek and Tom McAndrew were the only two that saw that coming.

Speaking of Tom McAndrew, congratulations for being the Army match winner, with 27 points, 10 correct picks and 7 correct bonus types. Fire. At the other end of the spectrum, Dunkej01 earlier this week posted #whodoesntlikebraggingrights. To that, I say, #youhaveworktodo.

All results can be found here:


KYPSW 2017-18.xlsx
Microsoft Excel Workbook

Read more
. You'll notice there are currently two tabs, Army and YTD. Match results can be found beginning in column AP, and YTD results can be found beginning in column BM in that spreadsheet.

As always, if you see a mistake, let me know. It is particularly helpful if you tell me what page your picks were in.

Thanks for doing this again, this is always a great contest.

On the Army sheet, there's a third section starting at column "AP" that's a bit confusing. It has my total right but the individual bouts are wrong (I had 285 by MD but it was a WBF, so I should have 2, but you have 3). I think that section is maybe a redundant, failed attempt at the previous section (starting at column "X"), which does the same thing except not sorted by standings order.

 

[PSUoh90]

Sorry, but didn't want to start a thread. Is Cassar a sophomore? The athletic site says "Class: Sophomore, Experience: Sophomore". I could have sworn amongst his injury woes that he used a RS.

 

[NoVa Lion]

Sorry, but didn't want to start a thread. Is Cassar a sophomore? The athletic site says "Class: Sophomore, Experience: Sophomore". I could have sworn amongst his injury woes that he used a RS.

He is in his 4th year out of HS so he is a RS Junior, although PSU lists him as a soph for some reason. That said he missed 2 complete seasons due to injury so if anyone should get a 6th year it would be Cassar.

 

[pawrestlersintn]

Thanks for doing this again, this is always a great contest.

On the Army sheet, there's a third section starting at column "AP" that's a bit confusing. It has my total right but the individual bouts are wrong (I had 285 by MD but it was a WBF, so I should have 2, but you have 3). I think that section is maybe a redundant, failed attempt at the previous section (starting at column "X"), which does the same thing except not sorted by standings order.

AP through AT are correct. I screwed up on everything to the right of that. Will be fixed soon. Thanks for pointing it out.

X through AM are the unsorted scores. AP to BD does an automatic sorting, and is supposed to report X through AM, based on rank.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

Sorry, but didn't want to start a thread. Is Cassar a sophomore? The athletic site says "Class: Sophomore, Experience: Sophomore". I could have sworn amongst his injury woes that he used a RS.

He is in his 4th year out of HS so he is a RS Junior, although PSU lists him as a soph for some reason. That said he missed 2 complete seasons due to injury so if anyone should get a 6th year it would be Cassar.

He's a RS Soph, in terms of eligibility. He redshirted as a freshman. Due to the injury he suffered, he did not enroll the following year, which is the unusual twist to this story. He was enrolled last year, which was his RS Fresh season.

I don't know how the not enrolled component aligns with the NCAA's 5-years-to-complete-4-years-of-competition rule, which does make this somewhat confusing.

 

[pawrestlersintn]

Thanks for doing this again, this is always a great contest.

On the Army sheet, there's a third section starting at column "AP" that's a bit confusing. It has my total right but the individual bouts are wrong (I had 285 by MD but it was a WBF, so I should have 2, but you have 3). I think that section is maybe a redundant, failed attempt at the previous section (starting at column "X"), which does the same thing except not sorted by standings order.

Try the link that's up there now.

 

[pawrestlersintn]

My screen isn't nearly that big.

#personalproblems

 

[Cali_Nittany]

BUCKNELL

125 PSU Dec
133 Keener MD
141 Cortez Dec
149 Retherford Fall
157 Nolf Fall
165 Joseph Fall
174 Hall Fall
184 Nickal Fall
197 PSU TF, (edit: no Sleigh)
H Nevills Fall

<edited for name format>

 

[psumacw]

i can't access the link (probably work filters) but looking at the numbers i think the 157 column might be wrong. that column is tied for the 2nd lowest average (2.05) when the match had probably had the most likely result (nolf by fall).

also notable is that cassar DEC (2.91) and cenzo MAJ (2.78) were the highest averages