I said that a while ago along with the fact that I thought they were in communication way before a few weeks ago.
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I said that a while ago along with the fact that I thought they were in communication way before a few weeks ago.
yeah, but now you are going to have to let Spyker back on so he can tell you FOR SURE that he is in the room!
Please no. I have been fooled hundreds of times reading posts that were beyond positive just to look over to the screen name and see the name Spyker. I would be like damn I should have known it sounded to good to be true. Reading this forum is way better now, especially with 21 gone.
According to RU fans, Bill Garbarini is an insider and a booster. I do find it odd that he's been openly posting information about RU's recruitment of Mr Suriano and Nick on a public forum. That said, if this sharing of private information bothered coach Goodale, I'm sure he would have muzzled him weeks ago.
Does anyone else think that the outcome of the meeting today is that Coach wishes the Suriano's luck wherever they end up?
That's part of what makes me think this has been an intentional campaign of misinformation on Rutger's part. I emailed Politi suggesting he do research about other "power" conferences' intraconference transfer rules before he claimed the B1G was some kind of outlier in college athletics, but got no response. He clearly got that misinformation from Rutgers. I think the Surianos got taken for a ride by Rutgers, too. God knows what Rutgers was telling *them*.
I think Cael, being the kind of person he is, gives a second chance. But there won't be a third.
especially since, it appears at least, its being driven by someone other than Nick
I have no knowledge of what's been behind the Surianos' thinking of transfer. But, I would be surprised if they are interested in continuing with Nick at PSU that Cael wouldn't be very open to that. Nick was a solid team guy this past year, I heard him make some nice comments at the post-NCAA party; he's young, and I think Cael will work with them, if there are not irrenconcilable differences.
I don't know if Cael's in a tough spot. I think the Suriano's are in a potentially much tougher spot.
I'm just going off of what Cael has said in the past. I think he is being genuine when he says he wants kids who are all in and want to be at PSU. That buy into everything he is doing there. I could be totally off base but I honestly believe he's struggling on this one. If there were no transfer rules and Nick wouldn't lose eligibility, I kinda think he'd be gone.
I think he will give NS a second chance, if that becomes the issue.
My personal belief is that the Surianos were being whispered to and led down the garden path for a long time. Not that they are blameless in this debacle. And it's not even clear how much Nick really wanted to transfer. This whole situation has been way less than transparent (obviously).
How so? I mean, since PSU already washed their hands of the situation, and presumably the B1G declined the waiver, it sounds like PSU has all the leverage. If it doesn't work out, they're in the same spot they were yesterday. It's the Surianos who suddenly need something. If the report is accurate that Cael and Nick's parents met, I would expect that discussion to be about the particular grievances we heard rumors of, and to establish the ground rules for the relationship going forward, since there was obviously some bad blood. Recalling what Dice said awhile ago, which jibes with how things played out, the problem can probably be reduced to lack of communication. Which is true for most things.
I hear what you're saying but think you're taking it a little further than Cael does.
It's unrealistic to think that, in a set of 4-5 year careers over Cael's tenure, he has not had to re-sell the program to any teenagers.
Likewise, we know of several guys who did not buy into everything. Cael and Quentin Wright famously clashed, at one point Cael telling him his priorities are folk, free, and greco in that order. We've heard about guys not liking or agreeing with the S&C program. For example.
Leading a high performing team requires some judgment along the way, as opposed to rigidity.
that entire column was written to pander to Bilas and his ilk. Rutgers was trying to strongarm Cael through the media, no doubt.
Tikkanen is right. PSU has all the leverage.
Suriano will wrestle for Penn State this year and be given his full release next year. Hakuna matata.
Suriano will wrestle for Penn State this year and be given his full release next year. Hakuna matata.
Very interesting and creative on Cael's part. With RBY, Teasdale, and whoever else Cael can bring in, this is a win win for us and Nick won't lose his year.
Not that those guys will make 25, they will add to team points.
Doesn't appear that it's too difficult to accomplish.
Honestly, if he leaves PSU, I don't care.
He probably could have received his full release this year if he asked. What purpose would coming back just for this year serve for Suriano?
Heh, I love that at least one person here knows the original Tikk.
If the plan is to have Nick wrestle here for a year and transfer to Rutgers the next, I'm not sure Cael could guarantee that plan because, again, the waiver decision is on the B1G and they're going to need a good reason. I guess Cael and the Surianos could concoct an agreed-upon basis in advance but not sure how they can be certain it would float past the B1G.
I guess if the B1G literally told the Surianos this past week that if the outgoing school supported the waiver request, no matter the basis, then the B1G would approve... then the parties could have that certainty that such a plan would work next year. Total speculation though.
I don't get why he would only come back a year. My guess is that Nick and Cael have already spoken. Cael probably agreed to a return approached Sandy and was told she would personally like to speak to the family. This kind of thing didn't present PSU in a positive light. It's her job to avoid the bad PR and make sure there is no repeat of this summer. Depending on what was said and the story she was given would aprove or deny. My guess is she would lean whichever way Cael wanted her to but needed reassuring.
Cael good cop, Sandy bad cop.
Hey, look -- a Re-re-branded Spyker sighting.
I dunno, Creek. "Prohibitive Favorite" has a nice ring to it. Also don't want NaTo-BoJo-Snyder to get another national title. It was bad enough watching the Buckeyes hoist the trophy amidst our "Reset" year.
Yes, and if the Bucks don't get us this year, it could be a while until they assemble another team this strong...
Whether or not the Big10 gave the Surianos a courtesy preliminary evaluation of the possibility of a successful wavier process I do not know. What wasn't done is an actual wavier hearing, meeting or whatever they would be called. Nick has never not been a Penn State student. Can't ask for a transfer wavier until you are a transfer.
With that said, a formal complaint was lobbied against RU today .
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