latest Suriano news
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Interesting. Their football team is also under NCAA investigation. Welcome Rutgers, to the world of big time athletics.
well...just investigations. they havent joined big time athletics yet.
If you know, did any information from today's meeting with the Suriano's trigger the complaint, or was it already planned?
Eh. Suriano still has the option to look at his out-of-conference options for the Spring. Hoping both sides figure it out. I don't take Cael for being a stubborn dude, but who knows.
I think Spyker should follow PSUPOWER's lead and change his handle to RUPOWER.
I think Spyker should follow PSUPOWER's lead and change his handle to RUPOWER.
RUPOWER would be an oxymoron.
Can't say that I'm thrilled by Worthyone's posting history
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How can you punish Rutgres anymore? They really have to be one of the worst, if not the worst, Power 5 conference school in sports in general. Only won the 1949 Fencing NCAA title. That is it. Nothing else. Few and far between Big East Conference titles across all sports. Can't punish them anymore than they already are.
No one is thrilled with yours either.
I would be shocked if the NCAA was involved so quickly- they always seem to move at a snails pace (except against PSU, of course).
Much deeper investigative journalism than we're used to seeing from other wrestling outlets (looking at you, Willie).
I think it was Tan Tom that got punished most today . . . Just when he thought he had a shot at the title (and was relaxing to a beatiful sunset in Aruba), Super Cael swept in and . . .
You have a cite for the notion that you can't seek a transfer waiver until after you transfer? I wasn't able to find any such rule when I looked, and I argued elsewhere in this thread why such a rule would make no sense. Besides which, it's clear enough that some formal application process just took place; what exactly was it that Cael was reported to not support?
If it happens again next summer, I'll remind myself of all the productive things I could have been doing with the time it took to read this 2000-3000 comment thread. And I'll sware I won't get pulled into it again.
But who am I kidding, I'll be reading all over again.
I do not have any sites. I ask 2 folks who work in the athletic department (play racket ball with, occasionally) if it is possible to ask for a wavier ruling from the Big10 prior to actually being a transfer.
The answer was fairly definitive. They could be mistaken, but I doubt it.
As far as what Cael did or did not support, (I haven't listened to Flo or anything) I can not answer.
Not playing racket ball again until after Labor day. I will ask again.
Nobody really knows at this point, but the post-transfer waiver process fits in with the Micic timeline, so it could be possible, I think. It also makes sense if the B1G is trying to discourage intraconference transfers. You do your transfer and then take your chances.
I HEARD 2 GUYS TALKING OUTSIDE THE REC HALL WEIGHT ROOM !!!! THE ONE PARENTS CAN USE WITH A GUEST PASS !!!!
On another note you want to hear Mark Hall talking about wrestling Zain and Bo. From the sounds of it they do 20 minute matches and it's horrific. The interview is on Bader's new show on FLO. Mark appears authentically shaken by 20 minutes with Zain
That makes sense. Why would the B1G give a decision even if only preliminary regarding a waiver to its transfer rule until the transfer has happened? Large organizations generally do not like to deal with hypothetical situations, especially if they could involve possible legal action.
Conference gives a quick preliminary answer, athlete transfers and then the conference when it has the opportunity to fully consider the waiver with all information rules differently, lawsuit.
Lots of opinions on the waiver request and how it works, nobody has actually posted the document on how the process works.
I would assume the waiver needs to be formalized in writing. i would presume this includes a justification or reason for the request. maybe this is where things fell apart?
move in weekend approaches fast.......followed by the 1st day of classes
Only if the NJ articles were fabricated from whole cloth does it make sense to continue to question whether or not the B1G was willing to entertain the application. Because it seems reasonable to infer that the B1G gave the Surianos *some* answer. I guess that answer could have been "we're not going to answer your underlying question until you first actually transfer," but then you have to buy that PSU wasn't even asked to support anything (because there'd be nothing to support). I've no doubt that there was some disingenuousness in those articles but I don't think the basics were a complete lie.
It isn't a transfer waiver. it is a B10 waiver to allow the transferring student to be eligible to compete immediately. The "other" team claims that Cael will not issue his support for a B10 waiver request (see definition above) for this athlete.
Yeah, I'm well aware, probably as much as anyone here. See, this thread, first thousand pages. Perhaps it would've been more accurate had I instead described it as an 'intraconference-transfer waiver' instead, but semantics over my shorthand aside, my point stands, i.e., I've heard a lot of people suggest the B1G won't consider an application until after you've actually transferred, but I think the most reasonable inference from everything that's been reported is that the Surianos were able to do precisely that--they applied for the waiver and got rejected, which at least gave them certainty as to their options.
A sort of middle ground is that they consulted someone without formally applying for a waiver and were discouraged by what they were told by that party.
The BIG transfer rule is in place for a reason. It actually protects against "free agency" so to speak within the conference. Hypothetically speaking. What if Suriano was permitted to transfer to Rutgers and be eligible right away? Let's say Ethan Lizak now sees this and thinks it's a good idea to transfer back to his "home" school since there is now an opening at 125. Now Minny is out of a returning finalist at 125. When you think about it the rule actually protects some of the "bottom" teams from losing their best wrestlers. If you have "free agency" then the PSU's, OSU's and Iowa's can try and fill some holes in their lineups with some of the best wrestlers from the bottom teams. The loss of a year is a deterrent for this to happen. I know the above could lead to violations in regards to talking to wrestlers that are students at other schools, but you can see how this could happen in a hypothetical situation.
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