Has been a huge mistake. I honestly don’t know how the people shilling for sports betting in the media can live with themselves.
You should read the research linked. Your post is 180 degrees to their research findings???
It gives people the option to gamble or not--most of whom were already gambling.
Their research indicates there's no choice involved?You should read the research linked. Your post is 180 degrees to their research findings
Take drugs. Smoke dupe, smoke cigarettes, vape, watch porn, over drunk, hey, it’s all just a choice right? Fine, you pay the penalty for homeless and bankruptciesTheir research indicates there's no choice involved?
Who's making anyone gamble?
Right. But ‘ unfortunate’ isn’t the right word. In fact, it was predictable.The biggest gamblers in my organization are those that make the least. They always have a hot tip or listen to podcasts on the subject. It is unfortunate.
No one should pay for them--they made their choiceTake drugs. Smoke dupe, smoke cigarettes, vape, watch porn, over drunk, hey, it’s all just a choice right? Fine, you pay the penalty for homeless and bankruptcies
Take drugs. Smoke dupe, smoke cigarettes, vape, watch porn, over drunk, hey, it’s all just a choice right? Fine, you pay the penalty for homeless and bankruptcies
Ok. Don’t come looking for additional tax revenue because people are homeless."Smoke dupe" and "over drunk"? You might be imbibing a bit too much yourself.
As always, there's a weighing of considerations of personal rights and freedoms v. societal impacts that's too involved and deep to tackle on a sports message board.
However it's extremely hard to justify the suppression of sports gambling when governmental units are actually running, and profiting greatly and directly from, games of chance.
Wut?Ok. Don’t come looking for additional tax revenue because people are homeless.
This is true, however it is perhaps more of a commentary on the moral and societal implications of the seemingly uninhibited growth of sports betting and the constant advertising on radio and TV. It is made to appear as a part of the enjoyment of sports when many on this site are aware of individuals and families whose lives were ruined by gambling. Now what is slowly bubbling to the surface are investigations of college athletes participating. For some, the NIL $ opens ups the temptation."Smoke dupe" and "over drunk"? You might be imbibing a bit too much yourself.
As always, there's a weighing of considerations of personal rights and freedoms v. societal impacts that's too involved and deep to tackle on a sports message board.
However it's extremely hard to justify the suppression of sports gambling when governmental units are actually running, and profiting greatly and directly from, games of chance.
Well...the gameification of it has been horrendous. You can't got five minutes watching a sports show or listening to a sports radio show without an ad for gambling. And the downloadable apps make gambling something you can do impulsively. And that is where you get the gambler hooked...if they win, they think they can win again. Easy money! If they lose, they think they need to win back to get even.This is true, however it is perhaps more of a commentary on the moral and societal implications of the seemingly uninhibited growth of sports betting and the constant advertising on radio and TV. It is made to appear as a part of the enjoyment of sports when many on this site are aware of individuals and families whose lives were ruined by gambling. Now what is slowly bubbling to the surface are investigations of college athletes participating. For some, the NIL $ opens ups the temptation.
Agree. We are of the same mindset. Another concern is unscrupulous lawyer lobbyists asking congress to get gambling added to the list of "disabiliities" for collection of Sociall Security "benefits".Well...the gameification of it has been horrendous. You can't got five minutes watching a sports show or listening to a sports radio show without an ad for gambling. And the downloadable apps make gambling something you can do impulsively. And that is where you get the gambler hooked...if they win, they think they can win again. Easy money! If they lose, they think they need to win back to get even.
I am all for personal freedoms but not when a) it ruins people and b) you eventually ask me to pay for it. And I will...with increased crime, anger, and bankruptcies. Worse, it was a self-inflicted wound. There was no reason to legalize it. They really could have legalized sports books but made it illegal to bet via downloadable app or via the internet. It would require a voice call or an in-person bet. That way, you can't easily impulse bet on if the next play gains 3.5+ yards or if the next pitch is fouled off.
Yeah. I think we should add to that list that wanting to bang hot chicks is a disability.Agree. We are of the same mindset. Another concern is unscrupulous lawyer lobbyists asking congress to get gambling added to the list of "disabiliities" for collection of Sociall Security "benefits".
Its a free country. If they legalize the lottery in every state then sports gambling should be legal in every state.Has been a huge mistake. I honestly don’t know how the people shilling for sports betting in the media can live with themselves.
And in a free country smart people aren’t penalized for the choices of stupid people.Its a free country. If they legalize the lottery in every state then sports gambling should be legal in every state.
Isn't the legal age limit 21?The amount of 18 year old high school kids who I hear talking about betting is unreal. Kids using lunch money to bets a five leg parlay
Umm oh yes it is. Smart people pay for the decisions of dumb people every day. The only thing that I dont like about Sports betting is that they can block winners. There needs to be some upside since these bettors are taking risks.And in a free country smart people aren’t penalized for the choices of stupid people.
Started a thread on this last winter. Kids on cell phones all day gambling. Even sports writers in newspapers writing about how much fun gambling is. Saying it makes even boring games fun when you place side bets.Well...the gameification of it has been horrendous. You can't got five minutes watching a sports show or listening to a sports radio show without an ad for gambling. And the downloadable apps make gambling something you can do impulsively. And that is where you get the gambler hooked...if they win, they think they can win again. Easy money! If they lose, they think they need to win back to get even.
I am all for personal freedoms but not when a) it ruins people and b) you eventually ask me to pay for it. And I will...with increased crime, anger, and bankruptcies. Worse, it was a self-inflicted wound. There was no reason to legalize it. They really could have legalized sports books but made it illegal to bet via downloadable app or via the internet. It would require a voice call or an in-person bet. That way, you can't easily impulse bet on if the next play gains 3.5+ yards or if the next pitch is fouled off.
Because we aren’t free.Umm oh yes it is. Smart people pay for the decisions of dumb people every day.
Yes for online with exceptions of Wyoming, Rhode Island and DCIsn't the legal age limit 21?
My kids (14 and 16) talk about how kids in their class are betting on sports. These other kids' parents must give them access to the app and some kind of bankroll to do it.The amount of 18 year old high school kids who I hear talking about betting is unreal. Kids using lunch money to bets a five leg parlay
Ya they have to have hacked into some accounts or parents are giving them access.My kids (14 and 16) talk about how kids in their class are betting on sports. These other kids' parents must give them access to the app and some kind of bankroll to do it.
Has been a huge mistake. I honestly don’t know how the people shilling for sports betting in the media can live with themselves.
These kids aren't hacking in to anything ... it's parents giving them access. Just your typical sports parent at work.Ya they have to have hacked into some accounts or parents are giving them access.
I never bet more than I can afford to lose, strictly "walking-around money," and if I end up breaking even or winning a few bucks over the course of a season, I'm happy.
Because we aren’t free.
This is not good.My kids (14 and 16) talk about how kids in their class are betting on sports. These other kids' parents must give them access to the app and some kind of bankroll to do it.
I've got a co-worker who insists he's making $5k per month. He bets on baseball and watches the injury reports like crazy. He bets on pitcher matchups and when teams give a star a day off. He also plots how the bullpens have been used knowing the skipper doesn't have all of his reliever available on certain days. But he agrees that he is making the money off of someone's loss. The house just takes a percentage. The game is getting people to play. The biggest problem is the impulsive gambling made possible via apps. Peopel get pissed if they lose the "under", for example. Then they get upset and try to win it back when they get emotional.This is not good.
Actually does become the tax payer problem.No one should pay for them--they made their choice
And no that comment from me shouldn't come as a surprise--people make choices which have consequences--if you can't control your drinking, smoking, gambling, etc then you deal with the consequences. Not my problem. Your problem.
When I say hacking it’s more likely friends or brothers that are of age are helping them get accounts.These kids aren't hacking in to anything ... it's parents giving them access. Just your typical sports parent at work.
Not significantly nor anymore than countless other things that taxpayers spend money onActually does become the tax payer problem.
Taxpayers don't spend money on anything. It's the confiscatory power of the state with the state deciding where the money is spent.Not significantly nor anymore than countless other things that taxpayers spend money on
so it is ok for taxpayers, in any amount, to have to pay for stupid gamblers (which is, actually, subsidizing the gambling houses to make even more money)Not significantly nor anymore than countless other things that taxpayers spend money on
I don't care about classifying people. Wasting money because we've made the stupid mistake of popularizing a harmful addiction is just dumb and bad. I am not interested in discussing if it is more dumb and worse than other governmental stupid mistakes.Why are you worried about gambling when taxpayers are paying for countless other things?
I wouldn't pay for anyone if that was my choice but people keep voting for liberals so here we are.
Yes, I'm sure you were one of the responsible illegal gamblers ... no doubt.
How to tell someone has a problem? They volunteer how they don't have a problem.
This is not good.