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MSU and Michigan loaded with returning starters. TOSU is well TOSU.
3 starters back on defense. Barkley Gesicki and Hamilton all gone.
4 losses or more not out of the question.
MSU and Michigan loaded with returning starters. TOSU is well TOSU.
3 starters back on defense. Barkley Gesicki and Hamilton all gone.
4 losses or more not out of the question.
QB is big plus. We return most of our O line with some studs on the rise. Receivers-Tompkins, Johnson, Polk, and Justin Shorter coming. Defensive line will be good. Linebackers and secondary is the real issueWe return our QB. In today's college game, that is huge. And we saw Michigan with a loaded, experienced team last year finish 3rd in the division so I don't think I'm ready to jump off the ledge just yet.
QB is big plus. We return most of our O line with some studs on the rise. Receivers-Tompkins, Johnson, Polk, and Justin Shorter coming. Defensive line will be good. Linebackers and secondary is the real issue
MSU and Michigan loaded with returning starters. TOSU is well TOSU.
3 starters back on defense. Barkley Gesicki and Hamilton all gone.
4 losses or more not out of the question.
QB is big plus. We return most of our O line with some studs on the rise. Receivers-Tompkins, Johnson, Polk, and Justin Shorter coming. Defensive line will be good. Linebackers and secondary is the real issue
We were thrilled to get Wade and TCF last year, and they were two of our highest ranked recruits. If those guys can't come through in making our secondary respectable, after seeing a fair amount of playing time this year, then we may as well stop thinking that recruiting is all that important.
Disagree on schedule. Wisconsin has 9 starters back on offense. sPitt has 17-18. MSU 20. Michigan is loaded. Going to be rough.Sounds like an 8-4 year. The schedule, however, is not that rough. I could see 9-3 or even 10-2.
I think Fields has been very good. He can't catch but he's played well
Can't say the same for Wade. He's struggled , even for a true freshmen, imo.
MSU and Michigan loaded with returning starters. TOSU is well TOSU.
3 starters back on defense. Barkley Gesicki and Hamilton all gone.
4 losses or more not out of the question.
MSU and Michigan loaded with returning starters. TOSU is well TOSU.
3 starters back on defense. Barkley Gesicki and Hamilton all gone.
4 losses or more not out of the question.
I'd add the coaching staff to reprogramming if not rebuilding.We were thrilled to get Wade and TCF last year, and they were two of our highest ranked recruits. If those guys can't come through in making our secondary respectable, after seeing a fair amount of playing time this year, then we may as well stop thinking that recruiting is all that important.
If those guys can't come through in making our secondary respectable, after seeing a fair amount of playing time this year, then we may as well stop thinking that recruiting is all that important.
Wouldn't worry too much about the "returning starter" designation. Hypothetically our starting defense next year may include: E - Miller, Bucholtz; T - Givens, Windsor; LB - Bowen, Farmer, Brown; CB - Reid, Amari; S - Scott, Monroe. That defense will not struggle due to inexperience.Damn, didn't realize we only returned 3 starters on defense. There are going to be some growing pains for sure. Was hoping to get a two game win streak going against Michigan.
Yep. Shallow premise concerning the defense.Offense returning
McSorley
Johnson
Thompkins
Gonzalez
Bates
McGovern
Fries
Wright
5 star RB Sanders finally gets his turn. Ton of WR talent returning besides the starters. Miranda, Holmes coming off redshirts may figure in to the OL. 5 star Menet has really come on per JF yesterday.
Defense returning
Miller
Givens
Buchholz
Farmer
Bowen (assuming he returns)
Amani O (plays more than the "starters" at CB most games)
Reid (best CB in 2016, returns from injury)
Its kind of pointless to talk about "returning starters" with this defense because of how many snaps the 2nd team gets. Scott and Monroe have played a ton at safety. TCF and Wade got a ton of PT as true frosh. Shaka Toney and YGM at DE should be much improved after promising freshman seasons. Windsor played starter minutes at DT, Ellison Jordan looked promising, and Shelton came on towards the end of the year. Cam Brown saw a ton of action at LB, and you have Franklin and Faison Walden coming off of RS seasons.
The offense should be just as explosive, and if you have that, don't have to have an overpowering defense.
What is concerning is that Bowen may very well not be backWouldn't worry too much about the "returning starter" designation. Hypothetically our starting defense next year may include: E - Miller, Bucholtz; T - Givens, Windsor; LB - Bowen, Farmer, Brown; CB - Reid, Amari; S - Scott, Monroe. That defense will not struggle due to inexperience.
I'm honestly not worried about it. IMO if Manny returns he should be moved to his true position of OLB (Farmer's spot). He could be a big time player there IMO. But if he is once again at ILB, I don't expect a big year from him.What is concerning is that Bowen may very well not be back
Yes. Bowen belongs there.I'm honestly not worried about it. IMO if Manny returns he should be moved to his true position of OLB (Farmer's spot). He could be a big time player there IMO. But if he is once again at ILB, I don't expect a big year from him.
A master of forward projecting negativity. Indeed.CoastGuard is a major worrier. Maybe another 21Guns handle? If he says "dark years" that will clinch it.
MSU and Michigan loaded with returning starters. TOSU is well TOSU.
3 starters back on defense. Barkley Gesicki and Hamilton all gone.
4 losses or more not out of the question.
Leading into this season there was a lot of worrying about the defense. I read on here many times things like "hopefully the offense can score enough to make up for the defense." It turned out ok.
So many of our studs in the past were mid level recruits that didn't shine until they got their chance as a starter. You just never know for sure how things will pan out year to year.
Ohio State, Michigan State, Iowa, and Wisconsin all at home.Sounds like an 8-4 year. The schedule, however, is not that rough. I could see 9-3 or even 10-2.
Oruwariye and Reid ( 2 years left!) return. Wade, Castro-Fields, and McPhearson back up. Safeties should be Scott and either Taylor or Monroe. Coaches like RS Sutherland also!We were thrilled to get Wade and TCF last year, and they were two of our highest ranked recruits. If those guys can't come through in making our secondary respectable, after seeing a fair amount of playing time this year, then we may as well stop thinking that recruiting is all that important.
I look for the offense to be as good or better. McSorley and Stevens are A++. Sanders/Slade/Robinson will be dynamic. There are enough WOs and the OL will be improved. The D is a project and some wins may be shootouts.MSU and Michigan loaded with returning starters. TOSU is well TOSU.
3 starters back on defense. Barkley Gesicki and Hamilton all gone.
4 losses or more not out of the question.
Disagree on schedule. Wisconsin has 9 starters back on offense. sPitt has 17-18. MSU 20. Michigan is loaded. Going to be rough.
I look for the offense to be as good or better. McSorley and Stevens are A++. Sanders/Slade/Robinson will be dynamic. There are enough WOs and the OL will be improved. The D is a project and some wins may be shootouts.