Their front seven is more talented and deep, and their O line is much more talented. I'd call it a wash on offensive skill positions, and we have a slight edge in the defensive secondary.
No actually they were more talented if you look at the entire roster. TE, RB, and QB all to PSU IMO....I'll say that. OL, DL, LB, and DB's...OSU...WR's a push...but that is being a bit of a homer as OSU clearly has some freaks out wide too. If you don't think they were more talented, just watch that entire DL get drafted the next 2 years as well as those behind them...then watch for the PSU DL and LB's the next 2 years to get drafted. The good news is PSU is catching up there, but to say they don't have more talent is such a homer thing. If anything it shows how much better the coaching is in HV.
After taking over an offense that ranked 110th, and 101st, in the nation the previous two years (just behind Florida International, Akron, and Eastern Michigan)
And inheriting a starting Quarterback with ZERO P5 scholarship offers as a QB.
And, over the succeeding two years required 34 starts by FRESHMAN offensive linemen, and 37 starts by SOPHOMORE offensive linemen.
Over the last two years:
The Penn State offense has averaged more than 38 points per game in each year.
Something, that in the entire 100+ year history of Penn State football had happened exactly ZERO times before.
Over the last two years:
Penn State's tailback (Barkley) will have accumulated well over 4,000 yards of total offense, and about 45 touchdowns.
Something, that in the entire 100+ year history of Penn State football had happened exactly ZERO times before.
It is comforting to know that on this Board, there remain douche-nozzles with the INCREDIBLE ability to look beyond all of that nonsense and recognize that the offense was a train wreck, and the offensive co-ordinator was a malfeasant idiot.
I think we can all now rest assured in the knowledge that there is absolute NOTHING that will ever undermine the will of the epically stupid, to persevere with their blatherings of idiocy.
Thank You
TM's scholie was to Vandy as a safety?^^This^^
The definitive post in this thread. We can all "move on" now.
you really evaluate talent based on all conference selections? really?? Hey to the victors go the spoils.
I've have heard he was recruited as a safety, but I heard CJF flipped him from a Vandy commitment to a PSU. I would find it odd, that CJF would say he could play Safety at Vandy, but at PSU he could play QB. But I really dont know.
You want to make bets on the draft for the next 2 years as to which team has more drafted or is the only metric you want to count is your keyboard? You love to toss out opinions, but have a real hard time backing them up.
I'm easy $100 OSU has more people drafted the next 2 years overall. I won't even collect as it's more to prove my point, but I know which team will have more drafted the next 2 years even after sending 11 or so just last year.
There is no perfect coach or system, but go to the extreme and try to make a dumb point I guess.
so you are talking quantity over quality? so having 3 7 round picks as opposed to the say, the first over all pick means a team is more talented? I would rather do it by the ranking of each draft slot and adding the total points But if you feel that is too complicated, or doesnt fit your agenda, I'll mark you down for $100. Its your call.
Oh so you're already moving the goal posts...I said OSU will have more players drafted this year and next and they will. Just as they did last year when PSU beat them due to superior coaching. Yes that means the OVERALL talent is better on that roster and you can ask any NFL GM around or anyone else since you clearly are delusional. I'm not changing a thing...OSU will have more players drafted the next 2 years. PSU is closing that gap thanks to a great young energetic HC, but OSU has more talent then PSU does.
In fact you can give it to Thon...that will work.
I said this, 'But if you feel that is too complicated, or doesnt fit your agenda, I'll mark you down for $100. Its your call.' it's your call, I couldnt have been more clear, again however you want, its your call. I would much rather give it to you, and if you want to give to Thon fine. But you leave out the possibility that you will have to give the $100 to me. One thing I know is that, I'll be rooting for PSU players to be drafted, and you will be hoping OSU players get picked.Oh so you're already moving the goal posts...I said OSU will have more players drafted this year and next and they will. Just as they did last year when PSU beat them due to superior coaching. Yes that means the OVERALL talent is better on that roster and you can ask any NFL GM around or anyone else since you clearly are delusional. I'm not changing a thing...OSU will have more players drafted the next 2 years. PSU is closing that gap thanks to a great young energetic HC, but OSU has more talent then PSU does.
First it was don't look at recruiting classes where OSU has had top 5 class after top 5 class.
Next it was all conference doesn't matter.
Now it is PSU may have Barkley go in the top 5 so that means PSU is more talented.
You honestly suck at logic and critical thinking and I'll take the $100 to be honest just because it's you.
that's a really confusing statement, PSU is the better team, but OSU has more talent. So better teams can't beat better talent? How can a team be better without talent? Are you saying that PSU had better coaches than OSU and that's why they would win? How to you evaluate talent at the college level? By draft positions? By recruiting rankings? By all league selections?
Yes, you will pay Thon $100 next year after the draft. I will do the same in turn.
you said, 'I'm easy $100 OSU has more people drafted the next 2 years overall.' So according to your bet, we will square up after the 2019 draft correct?
What plays should he have called for an exhausted OL vs a top ranked DL off a bye?
Correct, draft this year and next. Which ever team has more drafted in the 7 rounds in each year. It will only further my point about what a good job this staff has been doing....thanks for the contribution to Thon.
Exactly. The gap is closing, but OSU has been churning out some talent. Hell I follow the Saints and seeing Bell, Michael Thomas, and Lattimore have brought in from tOSU, it makes me wonder how he wasn't winning more games to be honest as NOBODY in the B!G was on par with tOSU. In fact after watching the game this year and knowing the talent disparity, I'm very hopeful for the future. OSU seems to lack discipline at times to be honest, much like his UF teams just before he folded on them. No doubt about the talent Meyer can bring in and he is a good coach, but how many false starts and bone head plays did OSU have this year? A ton IIRC.
this is what I said,
