Wandering Spectator
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I want to believe that the staffers were called out to pick up the players and they were not out with them. I hope that’s the case.
Man was this story pitched differently when it first came out - National Champion Georgia
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That was my thought too. I saw SEC football player, 2:30AM, and a "recruiting staffer" that was formerly a "student ambassador" and I guessed exactly what happened but didn't post it at the time thinking it unsensitive. Now that the truth is out I don't mind admitting it.
Willock’s father said he had “no knowledge” of the news conference and that there will be no legal action taken against the University of Georgia, according to Chip Towers of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
“No, Georgia is working with us,” the father said. “We have no reason to do that because they are compensating us 100%.”
Devin Willock’s parents make major legal announcement after Georgia player’s death
McQueary absolutely went out drinking with players. Saw him (hard guy to miss) at Big Easy quite a few times my senior year.
You only see the incidents that result in extremes. Death sells. UGA just won the playoff. Good enough for some clicks.
Wasn’t it Joe Sara?
depends what UGA offers and how quickly the family wants the money. Remember a lawsuit brings with it attorney fees, plaintiff attorney takes somewhere between 30-50% based upon at what point the case settles. It could take years to settle......
UGA will make a multi million dollar offer....How much is a quick non contentious settlement worth to the family?
Kind of like when that young man got blown off a collapsable platform at ND. ND and the family quietly worked something out. If there are embarrassing or salacious details here, UGA will quickly work something out.
Fair but usually people aren't going to just take the first offer unless they're trying to protect the deceased. I guess we'll see how it plays out
They need to wait at least until after all toxicology reports come back. That would be 3-4 months minimum. A bad report would have dramatic impact on offers.
depends how good the first offer is. UGA has a lot of reasons to make one hell of a first offer.
IDK, seems a lot of high profile cases that remember, it takes much longer. We shall see.
You are correct. Both Sarra and Bove have Southern Chester County/ Wilmington, DE roots. My mind transposed them. My Drivers Ed teacher in high school was a Sarra who also coached football and then left us for a junior college opportunity.
You can get a toxicology report much sooner than that but, yes, it better/safer to wait for multiple tests and results.
Joe Sarra was from Fayette City Pa. After a year at Tulane, graduated from Cal State.
Spent several seasons as HFC at Southern Columbia and then 12 years at Lafayette College. Then about 15 years as a position coach for JVP. He finished up as an assistant in the athletic dept. around 2005.
Long-time Assistant Football Coach Joe Sarra Dies - Penn State Athletics
July 20, 2012UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. - Joe Sarra, a member of the Penn State football coaching and administrative staff for 21 seasons, passed away Thursday in State
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Some branch must've landed down this way or connected him to a job coaching at my high school. He was definitely being fast tracked and made it clear that he wasn't going to be around long- family connections- blah, blah, blah. My greatest memory was when he gave me my driving test he had me criss cross Wilmington's Open Air (attbe time) Market Street Mall to look at secretaries on their lunch hour. The comments and terms that he used to describe them would be grounds for firing now. He wasn't paying attention to me at all.
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I've known Coach for 40 years (before he passed). I really think you have the wrong guy.
I'm sure you are correct- our guy was named Fran Sarra if you ever have the occasion to ask.He was maybe 24/25 ish in 1982. Mover/shaker/bullshitter/salesman/ladder climber type. Left for a position coach job at Ferrum College as a very young man but talked of Division 1 goals. No idea where he went after that.
Maybe I connected them together into my mind or they may be related...or maybe not. Odd coincidence if they are not somehow related given their chosen profession and uncommon surname.
Coach Joe Sarra would have been at Lafayette College at that time. His age would have been about 45. Of course they could be somehow related. He was my high school coach at Southern Columbia starting in 1967 and he was 29 or 30 at that point. D.O.B. 1937.
The majority of car incidents tend to be due to some bad choice by someone and rarely do they just "happen", its also why they do not refer to them as an accident anymore officially. So this would be in line with most every other incident that happens out on the roads. And where they were or were not beforehand really has zip to do with anything.
You're right. I guess speeding at 2:30 am after leaving a strip club and leaving the road to hit a tree is just your run of the mill bad choice that is standard for traffic accidents.
Joe Sarra was from Fayette City Pa. After a year at Tulane, graduated from Cal State.
Spent several seasons as HFC at Southern Columbia and then 12 years at Lafayette College. Then about 15 years as a position coach for JVP. He finished up as an assistant in the athletic dept. around 2005.
Long-time Assistant Football Coach Joe Sarra Dies - Penn State Athletics
July 20, 2012UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. - Joe Sarra, a member of the Penn State football coaching and administrative staff for 21 seasons, passed away Thursday in State
One tough SOB. I have told this story before. I was at a PSU/Purdue night game in West Lafayette. It was cold as hell out (I know that doesn't make sense
) and the wind was whipping around the stadium. Pregame, I am sitting in the stands -- long john top and bottom, wool socks over regular socks. Multiple layers of clothes under a heavy coat. Winter hat, scarf, and gloves and I am still shivering. Sarra is out doing the pregame walk amongst the PSU players doing their stretches wearing only a short sleeve shirt and regular slacks. He was either pickled drunk or the toughest person I have ever witnessed. Rest well, Joe!
Unless this becomes a criminal matter, I don’t think we will hear much more on this. Lawyers for the family will utilize private investigators, blood alcohol experts, and accident reconstruction specialists to build a strong civil case that will be quietly settled for an eight figure payout. Assume that figure will come out one day.
Never saw him in anything but a short sleeve white shirt and tie on game night when he coached me.One tough SOB. I have told this story before. I was at a PSU/Purdue night game in West Lafayette. It was cold as hell out (I know that doesn't make sense
Yet he was our baseball coach and no matter how hot, he wore a long sleeve warmup jacket.
Tough, yes. But if you proved yourself to him....he was your friend for life. I certainly was not among the top 500 players he ever coached. But, we had a wonderful relationship right up to the sad times I visited him in the nursing home. When my wife was dying (he was very ill himself) he would just randomly call me and see how I was holding up. Great coaches don't just win games. Great coaches change lives. I will always miss coach.
If he was a NFL sure shot, it could be high eight figures or even nine. The family of the woman that died will get much less. And if she was DUI ery little if anything. Truly sad and terrible.
Like a modern day Code of Hammurabi where different values were placed for victims depending on class, age etc. Unfortunately I know how those parents feel, and all the money in the world will not ease their pain and the nightmares which await.
But IF they get a sense of justice from a settlement. and then utilize the money to raise up their own extended family for generations, and donate to charitable causes that they see as worthy in the name of their son, they may indeed find some peace.
I don't pray often anymore, but I did for them. Tragic.
If those UGa employees were doing that stuff with their players on their own time then I don't know why UGa would be liable at all.
Also, I don't understand why the liability would be more if they were drunk than if they were not drunk if...if...they were driving badly. Shouldn't driving badly be reason for liability regardless of BAC? I mean, if you wreck because you're drunk of if you wreck because you're sober but just driving badly or too fast in general, what's the difference? Why should there be a difference?
Also, I don't understand why the liability would be more if they were drunk than if they were not drunk if...if...they were driving badly. Shouldn't driving badly be reason for liability regardless of BAC? I mean, if you wreck because you're drunk of if you wreck because you're sober but just driving badly or too fast in general, what's the difference? Why should there be a difference?
Good post. Money will not ease their pain. Know another family going through a similar thing now. Tragic.
Assuming they do get a large settlement they could set up a scholarship in his name. Or start a charity doing good things in his name.
Feel terrible for the woman’s family. They have to be going through hell.
UGA: SUV in deadly crash wasn't for personal use
University of Georgia athletic association said personal use of the SUV that was involved in a crash that killed a football player and employee was "strictly prohibited."
Update: Likely top 5 draft pick arrested in connection with these deaths.
Top draft prospect Carter charged in fatal crash
Former Georgia star Jalen Carter, one of the top prospects in next month's NFL draft, has been charged with reckless driving and racing in conjunction with the crash that killed a teammate and a recruiting staff member.
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Wow....lots of stuff here. So a bunch of people associated w UGA Football end up at a Strip Club after their big celebration.
While that may be offensive to some, I've got no issue with it. In an earlier post I mentioned the Strip Club culture that I was exposed to in Atlanta in the 90s (pun intended!) It was "normal" for mixed company to hit a happy hour where naked women danced around....
Real issues start with use of University vehicle on non University business...unless it is argued that the afterparty was tied to the celebration. In theory the university truck is the vessile for the accident, but the truck was not at fault, the driver was. If I loaned you my car and you crashed it and hurt your passenger am I liable? Likely not. If the car was not inspected? Likely changes things because now I'm avoiding policies which could mean I'm willfully putting others at risk. Assuming the car was safe then the driver is at fault.
A major issue is the BAC .197. Clearly on her and maybe the bartender/server at the establishment that served her if she was buying rounds. If she was using a UGa credit card to expense the drinks then big university liability. If others where buying multiple rounds and distributing the beverages themselves then it could be argued that the bartender could not know that 8 beers were served to her in 3 hours. But if she was drinking a signature tequila drink and not many others had that drink that could bite the bartender. The server likely is in the direct line of fire if they ran a tab and provided a table of 4-6 people 20 drinks in a short time. The math would mean they would/should know that patrons are drunk. The Strip Club may rue the night that the Dawgs decided to grace them with their presence.
As a young person likely without a lot of personal wealth it is unlikely that the plaintiffs get much from her estate. Insurance coukd be another source of $ but there are usually limits within policies.
Like we learned the hard way with Sandusky...the university has deep pockets and a vested interest in making this story go away as quickly as possible. I hope that the families are able to feel as good as they possibly can, and that all is settled off the public stage. Unfortunately it will likely be the opposite.
Maybe Rod Erickson is available to consult for UGA? They are gonna lose...the question is how badly?
While that may be offensive to some, I've got no issue with it. In an earlier post I mentioned the Strip Club culture that I was exposed to in Atlanta in the 90s (pun intended!) It was "normal" for mixed company to hit a happy hour where naked women danced around....
Real issues start with use of University vehicle on non University business...unless it is argued that the afterparty was tied to the celebration. In theory the university truck is the vessile for the accident, but the truck was not at fault, the driver was. If I loaned you my car and you crashed it and hurt your passenger am I liable? Likely not. If the car was not inspected? Likely changes things because now I'm avoiding policies which could mean I'm willfully putting others at risk. Assuming the car was safe then the driver is at fault.
A major issue is the BAC .197. Clearly on her and maybe the bartender/server at the establishment that served her if she was buying rounds. If she was using a UGa credit card to expense the drinks then big university liability. If others where buying multiple rounds and distributing the beverages themselves then it could be argued that the bartender could not know that 8 beers were served to her in 3 hours. But if she was drinking a signature tequila drink and not many others had that drink that could bite the bartender. The server likely is in the direct line of fire if they ran a tab and provided a table of 4-6 people 20 drinks in a short time. The math would mean they would/should know that patrons are drunk. The Strip Club may rue the night that the Dawgs decided to grace them with their presence.
As a young person likely without a lot of personal wealth it is unlikely that the plaintiffs get much from her estate. Insurance coukd be another source of $ but there are usually limits within policies.
Like we learned the hard way with Sandusky...the university has deep pockets and a vested interest in making this story go away as quickly as possible. I hope that the families are able to feel as good as they possibly can, and that all is settled off the public stage. Unfortunately it will likely be the opposite.
Maybe Rod Erickson is available to consult for UGA? They are gonna lose...the question is how badly?
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