Marsteller...

[Tom McAndrew]

Latest on Chance in a PennLive.com article at THIS LINK.

in summary:
- has completed the in-patient part of his treatment
- is currently in the outpatient phase of his treatment
- is living with his parents in York County
- jury selection is scheduled for Jan. 20
- no plea agreement has been offered, as the DA is awaiting the results of the treatment program

 

[21Guns]

No plea agreement YET. Once the results of the program are presented to the DA there will be a plea agreement.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

No plea agreement YET. Once the results of the program are presented to the DA there will be a plea agreement.

Wow, thanks for pointing that out. I don't think anyone could have surmised that from the article, or what I said in my summary about the plea agreement.

 

[Sean Harp]

Latest on Chance in a PennLive.com article at THIS LINK.

in summary:
- has completed the in-patient part of his treatment
- is currently in the outpatient phase of his treatment
- is living with his parents in York County
- jury selection is scheduled for Jan. 20
- no plea agreement has been offered, as the DA is awaiting the results of the treatment program

Call me naive but I sincerely hope this has a happy ending for Chance. He seemed like such a polite kid who never "big-timed" his opponent. No chest thumping. No screams. No index fingers wagging in the air. Just domination followed by a handshake, much like Nolf.

 

[hlstone]

Wow, thanks for pointing that out. I don't think anyone could have surmised that from the article, or what I said in my summary about the plea agreement.

Tom that made me laugh.

 

[psutim]

I'm not a specialist so I listed many options, but he needs time away from society as he is a menace. To attack law enforcement and then attack healthcare personnel(as I understand it) is completely unacceptable and can't just written off as he was 'drunk','stoned'...
I should go back and read the detail because he should've been in restraints in the ER(again no clue on ER policy) since he was ultra aggressive and a danger to himself.
I reiterate I stopped reading this thread since some posts thought the police over reacted. I feel the opposite, I think the police should've tagged and bagged him when he exhibited his aggressive behavior.

i agree with you that the" he was just drunk or high excuse doesn't cut it. i never got drunk and helped old ladies cross the street,work in a soup kitchen or help teach people to read. my point being i may not have known what i was going to do but i was fully aware it would be bad.. you drink or use drugs,you're responsible for what you do.

 

[CropDuster507]

i agree with you that the" he was just drunk or high excuse doesn't cut it. i never got drunk and helped old ladies cross the street,work in a soup kitchen or help teach people to read. my point being i may not have known what i was going to do but i was fully aware it would be bad.. you drink or use drugs,you're responsible for what you do.

I could make that a fun Saturday night.

 

[a_mshaffer]

i agree with you that the" he was just drunk or high excuse doesn't cut it. i never got drunk and helped old ladies cross the street,work in a soup kitchen or help teach people to read. my point being i may not have known what i was going to do but i was fully aware it would be bad.. you drink or use drugs,you're responsible for what you do.

...only a few people know. But I, in a glass house, will only admit the numerous times I was 'lucky'!! We probably all have realized that with a little 'bad luck' situations could have been much worse for us when looking back.

 

[Ian]

Save him Cael!

 

[AgSurfer]

...only a few people know. But I, in a glass house, will only admit the numerous times I was 'lucky'!! We probably all have realized that with a little 'bad luck' situations could have been much worse for us when looking back.

You got that one right, and I'll second it. I did some pretty dumb things when I had too much to drink and I was extremely lucky that I never got into very serious trouble. I took stock of everything some years back and stopped drinking alcohol right then and there. Haven't touched a drop since.

The bottom line is that even if you don't fit the mold of a classic alcoholic, drinking can still be dangerous depending on your personality and probably some other things that I don't know about. My advice to everyone is to tread very carefully. Just because you're doing fine today doesn't mean you can't screw up tomorrow. All it takes is a little bad luck and the wrong circumstances and your life can be turned upside down very quickly. Like a_mshaffer, I was lucky, but that's no guarantee for everyone.

 

[dropster45]

Add me to the Lucky list as well.

 

[PSU Mike]

I voluntarily quit for 10 years cold turkey when I was 26 and I gotta say it simplified my life a lot. Now I enjoy drinks for the flavors and hate feeling buzzed.

 

[RoarLions1]

Ain't gonna happen, no sense commenting on it.

 

[ev_flores0331]

I voluntarily quit for 10 years cold turkey when I was 26 and I gotta say it simplified my life a lot. Now I enjoy drinks for the flavors and hate feeling buzzed.

*looking for the "dislike" option* ...

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Ain't gonna happen, no sense commenting on it.

Yea, no doubt. I wonder if a program like The Boro might not give him a shot if he ends up executing some kind of Plea Bargain which allows it. Boro isn't the hardest school to get into as a "State-Run University".

 

[Brian LB-U]

Call me naive but I sincerely hope this has a happy ending for Chance. He seemed like such a polite kid who never "big-timed" his opponent. No chest thumping. No screams. No index fingers wagging in the air. Just domination followed by a handshake, much like Nolf.

Naive? Quite the contrary I'd say the vast majority of normal-thinking adults share your sentiments. After all we're talking about what, a twenty year old kid? Yeah he f^.£Ed up (badly) here, and same goes for Andrew Long and the wrestlers who ran the illicit drug ring at Minnesota that ultimately led to JRob's downfall (we all know who they are, no need to name names here). Do people like this deserve punishment? I would argue yes, of course, but I doubt anyone with a heart wishes him ill will or extended suffering. Nothing "naive" about it.

Personally, until proven otherwise, I find the discussions about bath salts, flakka or whatever you want to call it extremely distasteful in this thread.

 

[anon_bmgiwwa819jyc]

Weed is better than booze anyways.

 

[nitlion6]

Weed is better than booze anyways.

If someone can not stay out of trouble when buzzing or greater, no matter weed, booze or whatever. Best just to assume cause and effect and avoid either.

 

[anon_bmgiwwa819jyc]

For sure if you have substance abuse problems you should stay away from substances.

 

[matter7172]

From Jason Isbell, musician:


Do you credit sobriety with helping you grow artistically on this album?

It's given me more time to work. I think the key to growing creatively is just doing the work, and it's certainly taken away a lot of distractions. I used to spend six or eight hours drinking and another four to six hours recovering and then seven or eight hours of fitful sleep. That's pretty much the whole day gone. Now I don't have those urges.

 

[CropDuster507]

Naive? Quite the contrary I'd say the vast majority of normal-thinking adults share your sentiments. After all we're talking about what, a twenty year old kid? Yeah he f^.£Ed up (badly) here, and same goes for Andrew Long and the wrestlers who ran the illicit drug ring at Minnesota that ultimately led to JRob's downfall (we all know who they are, no need to name names here). Do people like this deserve punishment? I would argue yes, of course, but I doubt anyone with a heart wishes him ill will or extended suffering. Nothing "naive" about it.

Personally, until proven otherwise, I find the discussions about bath salts, flakka or whatever you want to call it extremely distasteful in this thread.

He tested positive for both coke and weed, in addition to the alcohol. While it isn't BS, I think the mannerisms warranted the discussion, especially if it's a buzz in PA.

 

[nitlion6]

For sure if you have substance abuse problems you should stay away from substances.

Its kinda like the first time I went to a cardiologist and he was asking the get to know my patient, medical and behavior, history questions. Do you smoke, "no, never, but I used to chew snuff." Do you drink? "Well let me tell you about drinking. I like to drink, but anymore I simply choose to not drink, and everything is so much simpler."

 

[psutim]

count me among the lucky too. several times over.

 

[Brian LB-U]

He tested positive for both coke and weed, in addition to the alcohol. While it isn't BS, I think the mannerisms warranted the discussion, especially if it's a buzz in PA.

I did not know this. I retract my statement.

 

[NYWRESTLER94]

My former college coach posted this a little while ago looks like Chance still plans on wrestling really hope he does get his life together

 

[Creek Side]

Some of you may already know about this, but for those that don't, here is a positive update about Chance. He is striving to make a comeback in his life and wrestling. I hope the kid can pull it off. Here is the link to The Record.
http://therecord-online.com/site/?p=29841

 

[matter7172]

Some of you may already know about this, but for those that don't, here is a positive update about Chance. He is striving to make a comeback in his life and wrestling. I hope the kid can pull it off. Here is the link to The Record.
http://therecord-online.com/site/?p=29841

Thanks for posting. I think everyone here is pulling for him, even if he never wears the blue and white.

 

[PSU Mike]

Would love to see him find the right path. Remember, he gave IMar a hell of a match only a month or two after the law incident. Think about him with a balanced focus ...

 

[PSU Mike]

Would love to see him find the right path. Remember, he gave IMar a hell of a match only a month or two after the law incident. Think about him with a balanced focus ...

 

[NYWRESTLER94]

He plead guilty and will be back in school Monday at lock haven. He hopes to be wrestling again next year if all goes well

http://www.northjersey.com/story/ne...steller-pleads-guilty-return-school/96744644/

Tom also posted 2 other articles regarding the situation in his "articles for Thursday" thread.