Yes...but once she had a contract with MSU, she is paid by MSU. So, again, what is to say that Tucker didn't hire her just because she was sexy. I mean, it could be like hiring a hooker as your secretary just so you could pay her for the weekly "favors" with company money and not your own.
I’m hearing Bobby Petrino. He runs a clean program, no sexual skeletons in the closet, and he owns a motorcycle.
My point is, Tracy is likely not an employee. If I were the President of MSU...would I be barred from dating a gal who once officiated a field hockey game at the university? Mel is history. What he did was beyond stupid. However, I think he will do much better $$$ than many here are predicting. There are certainly questions to be asked about more than 2 dozen late night calls lasting more than 30 minutes each.
If she doesn't have a retirement plan, health benefits, sick days and vacation days, it's unlikely she can be classified as an employee.
I get your point. I also agree that she was not an employee but a paid contractor. Regardless all that, this is a civil action, not criminal. So it is really all about money. At the end of the day, she filed a lawsuit. Had she not, he'd still be coaching. And, it appears that she kept the receipts as Tucker has admitted to a lot of what she alleged. That all triggers, probably, a clause in his contract. Open and shut. he can scream all he wants. The only money he may get is to go away. But if MSU pays him very much, there will be equal outcry as to why they paid this loser when they had him dead to rights. Women's groups will wonder why a sexual harasser is being rewarded. So they have to balance that as well.
It's a mess no doubt. Tucker has more than likely ended his career at any level of FB. But, I don't think Tracy is a winner here. I'd be reluctant to contract her services in the future. There are lots of people that can get a message across to young people without potential issues.
yep...and this is why women don't often file these charges. If she hasn't already, she'll sue Tucker. She'll end up with a couple of million but her reputation will be damaged. She will be labeled as "litigious" and why hire someone who has experience and is much more likely to sue?
Tucker may not get much at all. The problem is that his contract is so lucrative they could give him $1 million which is nothing in relationship to his contract but is obviously a lot of money. People could legitimately question why he gets any money from MSU. He will get some so MSU can just wrap this up quickly and not have it linger with bad PR and legal fees piling up.
I don't think she was working when this stuff happened. I could be wrong on that.
My discussion related to her employment status. She's an independent contractor. She was not harrassed at work. If she was harrassed it was during one of 27 late night phone calls that records show lasted more than a half hour on average.
Why are we assuming Tucker harassed her in any way? Because she says so? We've seen how that plays out sometimes.
And how exactly does Michigan State University, a giant, bloated university like so many others, not already have the resources to educate football players about this stuff? Why do they have to hire an Officially Approved Outside Entity? Answer: It's #MeToo insurance. They can say "See, we hired this person, we're the good guys."
Mel probably emailed UW their playbook.
Q: was it assumed Jerry Sandusky abused everyone because they said so?
I think that a jury said so. Also, all the appeals that have failed speak pretty loud.
One question: and I have not/no interest to read, but seriously Dr Spanier’s book in all of this ? Please no intention to create any arguments, etc But Coach Tucker’s story , enough coverage at this point.
We live in a world where we can not even be polite to the opposite gender. At work there is very little conversation and that is sad. Nobody gets close or personal hardly at all. I'm a private person but I miss the days where you could interact with people and not worry about the possibility of your life being wrecked.
I'm no Spanier fan, but unfortunately modern America is filled with misinformation and conspiracy theories that is what we are fed every day. So much of our newscycles revolve around the possibilty that whatever the issue is might have the slightest possibility of possibly being true and it is then presented as "fact" on both sides of our political chasm.
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All the shit for brains come out.I'm no Spanier fan, but unfortunately modern America is filled with misinformation and conspiracy theories that is what we are fed every day. So much of our newscycles revolve around the possibilty that whatever the issue is might have the slightest possibility of possibly being true and it is then presented as "fact" on both sides of our political chasm.
The USA Today article posted by Delco above earlier today appears to be good old fashioned journalism. Tucker fibbed about enough things during the investigation that his "word" is pretty clearly questionable. He will lose this case and based on some pretty basic proven facts, he will have nobody but himself to blame.
None of the above means that Tracy is unimpeachable- but in this "he said/she said" story Mel provided enough false evidence that any impartial person can see it. Even if Tracy was more interested in a romatic relationship, Tucker should have known enough to not get his meat where he butters his bread.
The Tuck Comin' t shirt in the story is a classic.
Tuck Comin Shirt Michigan State University
Preshrunk t-shirt in 100% cotton.Sport Grey: 90% US Cotton / 10% PolyesterDark Heather: 50% US Cotton / 50% PolyesterSeamless twin needle 7/8" collar.Taped neck and shoulders. Rolled forward shoulders for better fit.Twin needle sleeve and bottom hems. Quarter-turned to eliminate centre crease.
So again.. have to figure she will file a civil suit against Tucker do to her inability now to find other work.. so whatever Tucker gets from MSU.. I’m sure he will end up paying some of it $$ back to Tracy.., no matter how you look at it.. and as the head Coach of a high profile program.. what a complete moron Tucker was.. makes you wonder again.. how MSU signed him to one of the biggest contracts in all of College Sports.. just insane..
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