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But hypocrite Dr. Simon and the MSU board won't budge. Apparently they think the 20+ years of contemporaneous first hand complaints were all handled appropriately.

I admit if this happened elsewhere I wouldn't create a thread but the self-righteous hypocrisy of the MSU administrators is maddening.
 
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I'm no attorney but can't the gymnasts who are suing MSU add her as an individual defendant? Seems to me she's got a lot of explaining to do.
 
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I'm no attorney but can't the gymnasts who are suing MSU add her as an individual defendant? Seems to me she's got a lot of explaining to do.
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I believe she is named in some of the lawsuits.

A slight rant, as we've seen this movie before, and now it's at the part where the political grandstanding in the AG's race comes in. We can write this script! Popcorn anyone?

So the PA attorney general cooks up a case against 3 Penn State administrators, whose linchpin to their entire case against these guys is based on "slapping sounds" from a dude who has shown the world he masturbates into his web-enabled smartphone to random women for jollies.

I'm sorry - but after all the #MeToo stories out there exposing sexual harassment - WHY does McQueary retain any credibility? And for that matter, WHY does Franky "Porn Fingers" Fina who harassed female OAG staffers about their breasts, harangued them about sleeping around and had a trophy stash on his work computer of hardcore porn featuring women being violated retain any credibility?

These young women that competed in NCAA sanctioned sports, complained directly to MSU leadership for years about their sexual abuse & victimization by Nassar on the campus of a Big Ten institution, and it seems everyone is okay with "legal obligations". Hell, the leadership in the highest echelons in collegiate sports who was so vocal back in 2012, can't even seem to issue a statement on a stained cocktail napkin about these young women.

Yet a geriatric football coach, who was never part of the damned story to begin with, spends 10 minutes with a guy - who we don't even know was even in Lasch the night he says he was, and who has changed his story so many times - and the place is burned down over a "moral obligation" to do more, over a crime that didn't happen, over a victim our AG never bothered to get off their ass and indentify in over 7 years.

As a female - I'm irate about the double standard here, and I'm even more angry and disgusted about the damage done to so many because of "slapping sounds" spun into a sex crime by two guys who have clearly shown their overarching mindset most of the day is sex, and their prurient decision making shaped the PSU narrative.

That just adds more insult to these young women sexually victimized by Nassar. These girls were 12, 13, 14, 15 years old - they know what's going on with them isn't "right" but can't grasp that they are actually being violated, and some of them might even be featured in Nassar's child pornography.

And there's no media drumbeat of a "moral obligation to do more".

I am just so disgusted.

<climbs down off of soap box>
 
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wensilver said:
I believe she is named in some of the lawsuits.

A slight rant, as we've seen this movie before, and now it's at the part where the political grandstanding in the AG's race comes in. We can write this script! Popcorn anyone?

So the PA attorney general cooks up a case against 3 Penn State administrators, whose linchpin to their entire case against these guys is based on "slapping sounds" from a dude who has shown the world he masturbates into his web-enabled smartphone to random women for jollies.

I'm sorry - but after all the #MeToo stories out there exposing sexual harassment - WHY does McQueary retain any credibility? And for that matter, WHY does Franky "Porn Fingers" Fina who harassed female OAG staffers about their breasts, harangued them about sleeping around and had a trophy stash on his work computer of hardcore porn featuring women being violated retain any credibility?

These young women that competed in NCAA sanctioned sports, complained directly to MSU leadership for years about their sexual abuse & victimization by Nassar on the campus of a Big Ten institution, and it seems everyone is okay with "legal obligations". Hell, the leadership in the highest echelons in collegiate sports who was so vocal back in 2012, can't even seem to issue a statement on a stained cocktail napkin about these young women.

Yet a geriatric football coach, who was never part of the damned story to begin with, spends 10 minutes with a guy - who we don't even know was even in Lasch the night he says he was, and who has changed his story so many times - and the place is burned down over a "moral obligation" to do more, over a crime that didn't happen, over a victim our AG never bothered to get off their ass and indentify in over 7 years.

As a female - I'm irate about the double standard here, and I'm even more angry and disgusted about the damage done to so many because of "slapping sounds" spun into a sex crime by two guys who have clearly shown their overarching mindset most of the day is sex, and their prurient decision making shaped the PSU narrative.

That just adds more insult to these young women sexually victimized by Nassar. These girls were 12, 13, 14, 15 years old - they know what's going on with them isn't "right" but can't grasp that they are actually being violated, and some of them might even be featured in Nassar's child pornography.

And there's no media drumbeat of a "moral obligation to do more".

I am just so disgusted.

<climbs down off of soap box>
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wensilver said:
I believe she is named in some of the lawsuits.

A slight rant, as we've seen this movie before, and now it's at the part where the political grandstanding in the AG's race comes in. We can write this script! Popcorn anyone?

So the PA attorney general cooks up a case against 3 Penn State administrators, whose linchpin to their entire case against these guys is based on "slapping sounds" from a dude who has shown the world he masturbates into his web-enabled smartphone to random women for jollies.

I'm sorry - but after all the #MeToo stories out there exposing sexual harassment - WHY does McQueary retain any credibility? And for that matter, WHY does Franky "Porn Fingers" Fina who harassed female OAG staffers about their breasts, harangued them about sleeping around and had a trophy stash on his work computer of hardcore porn featuring women being violated retain any credibility?

These young women that competed in NCAA sanctioned sports, complained directly to MSU leadership for years about their sexual abuse & victimization by Nassar on the campus of a Big Ten institution, and it seems everyone is okay with "legal obligations". Hell, the leadership in the highest echelons in collegiate sports who was so vocal back in 2012, can't even seem to issue a statement on a stained cocktail napkin about these young women.

Yet a geriatric football coach, who was never part of the damned story to begin with, spends 10 minutes with a guy - who we don't even know was even in Lasch the night he says he was, and who has changed his story so many times - and the place is burned down over a "moral obligation" to do more, over a crime that didn't happen, over a victim our AG never bothered to get off their ass and indentify in over 7 years.

As a female - I'm irate about the double standard here, and I'm even more angry and disgusted about the damage done to so many because of "slapping sounds" spun into a sex crime by two guys who have clearly shown their overarching mindset most of the day is sex, and their prurient decision making shaped the PSU narrative.

That just adds more insult to these young women sexually victimized by Nassar. These girls were 12, 13, 14, 15 years old - they know what's going on with them isn't "right" but can't grasp that they are actually being violated, and some of them might even be featured in Nassar's child pornography.

And there's no media drumbeat of a "moral obligation to do more".

I am just so disgusted.

<climbs down off of soap box>
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Microphone (I didn't want to say "Mike") drop - this is simply the best post in the history of this board.
 
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wensilver said:
I believe she is named in some of the lawsuits.

A slight rant, as we've seen this movie before, and now it's at the part where the political grandstanding in the AG's race comes in. We can write this script! Popcorn anyone?

So the PA attorney general cooks up a case against 3 Penn State administrators, whose linchpin to their entire case against these guys is based on "slapping sounds" from a dude who has shown the world he masturbates into his web-enabled smartphone to random women for jollies.

I'm sorry - but after all the #MeToo stories out there exposing sexual harassment - WHY does McQueary retain any credibility? And for that matter, WHY does Franky "Porn Fingers" Fina who harassed female OAG staffers about their breasts, harangued them about sleeping around and had a trophy stash on his work computer of hardcore porn featuring women being violated retain any credibility?



These young women that competed in NCAA sanctioned sports, complained directly to MSU leadership for years about their sexual abuse & victimization by Nassar on the campus of a Big Ten institution, and it seems everyone is okay with "legal obligations". Hell, the leadership in the highest echelons in collegiate sports who was so vocal back in 2012, can't even seem to issue a statement on a stained cocktail napkin about these young women.

Yet a geriatric football coach, who was never part of the damned story to begin with, spends 10 minutes with a guy - who we don't even know was even in Lasch the night he says he was, and who has changed his story so many times - and the place is burned down over a "moral obligation" to do more, over a crime that didn't happen, over a victim our AG never bothered to get off their ass and indentify in over 7 years.

As a female - I'm irate about the double standard here, and I'm even more angry and disgusted about the damage done to so many because of "slapping sounds" spun into a sex crime by two guys who have clearly shown their overarching mindset most of the day is sex, and their prurient decision making shaped the PSU narrative.

That just adds more insult to these young women sexually victimized by Nassar. These girls were 12, 13, 14, 15 years old - they know what's going on with them isn't "right" but can't grasp that they are actually being violated, and some of them might even be featured in Nassar's child pornography.

And there's no media drumbeat of a "moral obligation to do more".

I am just so disgusted.

<climbs down off of soap box>
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#ME Too
 
wensilver said:
I believe she is named in some of the lawsuits.

A slight rant, as we've seen this movie before, and now it's at the part where the political grandstanding in the AG's race comes in. We can write this script! Popcorn anyone?

So the PA attorney general cooks up a case against 3 Penn State administrators, whose linchpin to their entire case against these guys is based on "slapping sounds" from a dude who has shown the world he masturbates into his web-enabled smartphone to random women for jollies.

I'm sorry - but after all the #MeToo stories out there exposing sexual harassment - WHY does McQueary retain any credibility? And for that matter, WHY does Franky "Porn Fingers" Fina who harassed female OAG staffers about their breasts, harangued them about sleeping around and had a trophy stash on his work computer of hardcore porn featuring women being violated retain any credibility?

These young women that competed in NCAA sanctioned sports, complained directly to MSU leadership for years about their sexual abuse & victimization by Nassar on the campus of a Big Ten institution, and it seems everyone is okay with "legal obligations". Hell, the leadership in the highest echelons in collegiate sports who was so vocal back in 2012, can't even seem to issue a statement on a stained cocktail napkin about these young women.

Yet a geriatric football coach, who was never part of the damned story to begin with, spends 10 minutes with a guy - who we don't even know was even in Lasch the night he says he was, and who has changed his story so many times - and the place is burned down over a "moral obligation" to do more, over a crime that didn't happen, over a victim our AG never bothered to get off their ass and indentify in over 7 years.

As a female - I'm irate about the double standard here, and I'm even more angry and disgusted about the damage done to so many because of "slapping sounds" spun into a sex crime by two guys who have clearly shown their overarching mindset most of the day is sex, and their prurient decision making shaped the PSU narrative.

That just adds more insult to these young women sexually victimized by Nassar. These girls were 12, 13, 14, 15 years old - they know what's going on with them isn't "right" but can't grasp that they are actually being violated, and some of them might even be featured in Nassar's child pornography.

And there's no media drumbeat of a "moral obligation to do more".

I am just so disgusted.

<climbs down off of soap box>
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Beyond being the "best post in the history of this board", it shows just how stupid the OGBOT's handling of this scandal really was. They fire a coach with second hand knowledge of a situation ten years after he followed university policy to the letter, while MSU allows a coach to retire with pension who was directly told of Nassar's abuse and told no one and/or humiliated the gymnast that came to her. I don't agree with MSU's handling of the situation, but they sure did learn from PSU's many, many mistakes.

The only thing I would add about the "double standard" is where are all of the organizations squeezing money out of MSU and "advocates" like Roxine at?
 
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But hypocrite Dr. Simon and the MSU board won't budge. Apparently they think the 20+ years of contemporaneous first hand complaints were all handled appropriately.

I admit if this happened elsewhere I wouldn't create a thread but the self-righteous hypocrisy of the MSU administrators is maddening.
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And I know just the Man to fire her.
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wensilver said:
I believe she is named in some of the lawsuits.

A slight rant, as we've seen this movie before, and now it's at the part where the political grandstanding in the AG's race comes in. We can write this script! Popcorn anyone?

So the PA attorney general cooks up a case against 3 Penn State administrators, whose linchpin to their entire case against these guys is based on "slapping sounds" from a dude who has shown the world he masturbates into his web-enabled smartphone to random women for jollies.

I'm sorry - but after all the #MeToo stories out there exposing sexual harassment - WHY does McQueary retain any credibility? And for that matter, WHY does Franky "Porn Fingers" Fina who harassed female OAG staffers about their breasts, harangued them about sleeping around and had a trophy stash on his work computer of hardcore porn featuring women being violated retain any credibility?

These young women that competed in NCAA sanctioned sports, complained directly to MSU leadership for years about their sexual abuse & victimization by Nassar on the campus of a Big Ten institution, and it seems everyone is okay with "legal obligations". Hell, the leadership in the highest echelons in collegiate sports who was so vocal back in 2012, can't even seem to issue a statement on a stained cocktail napkin about these young women.

Yet a geriatric football coach, who was never part of the damned story to begin with, spends 10 minutes with a guy - who we don't even know was even in Lasch the night he says he was, and who has changed his story so many times - and the place is burned down over a "moral obligation" to do more, over a crime that didn't happen, over a victim our AG never bothered to get off their ass and indentify in over 7 years.

As a female - I'm irate about the double standard here, and I'm even more angry and disgusted about the damage done to so many because of "slapping sounds" spun into a sex crime by two guys who have clearly shown their overarching mindset most of the day is sex, and their prurient decision making shaped the PSU narrative.

That just adds more insult to these young women sexually victimized by Nassar. These girls were 12, 13, 14, 15 years old - they know what's going on with them isn't "right" but can't grasp that they are actually being violated, and some of them might even be featured in Nassar's child pornography.

And there's no media drumbeat of a "moral obligation to do more".

I am just so disgusted.

<climbs down off of soap box>
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WEN, Please remain on the soapbox...we like you up there!
 
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NittPicker said:
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But hypocrite Dr. Simon and the MSU board won't budge. Apparently they think the 20+ years of contemporaneous first hand complaints were all handled appropriately.

I admit if this happened elsewhere I wouldn't create a thread but the self-righteous hypocrisy of the MSU administrators is maddening.
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Nobody knows Lou Anna Simon, whereas everyone knew Joe Paterno. Sorry, no story here despite the criminality involved. Welcome to our 24-hour, pop-culture news cycle.
 
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Almost all of them were younger than her. Almost all of them were abused after she initially spoke up. All of them, she believed, were victims of not just Larry Nassar, but the adults, organizations and institutions who could have, and should have, stopped him.

Most notably, Michigan State University, where Nassar worked daily for decades.

“This behavior,” Boyce said, “was known.”​
 
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Karma is a bitch ... ain't it Lou Anna?!

"The purpose is to try to incentivize people doing the right thing, and the right thing is saying something when you see something and doing something after you said something. It's really that simple."

- Lou Ann Simon, MSU President
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She ignored complaints even after stating that.
 
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