Michigan will be ranked ahead of us.

[21Guns]

With that said, there is NO FREAKING WAY they can KEEP Michigan in front of us, if we beat Wisconsin on a neutral field and win the outright conference championship.

This irrespective of any other teams in and around our status right now. Just about where we are in relation to Michigan.

 

[fairgambit]

With that said, there is NO FREAKING WAY they can KEEP Michigan in front of us, if we beat Wisconsin on a neutral field and win the outright conference championship.

This irrespective of any other teams in and around our status right now. Just about where we are in relation to Michigan.

Exactly right. A team with the same record, that beat us by 39, deserves to be higher. I also agree, if we beat Wisconsin, we should jump over them.

 

[NedFromYork]

Wisky-Penn State winner will be ahead of Michigan IU in the end. Need a Clemson or Washington loss.

 

[LafayetteBear]

Here is my prediction for the next Bowl Committee Ranking, due out early next week:

1. Alabama
2. Ohio State
3. Clemson
4. Washington
5. Wisconsin
6. Penn State
7. Michigan
8. Oklahoma
9. Colorado
10. USC

Although it's possible that Michigan drops only to No. 5 (as Herbie has prophesied), keep in mind that Louisville dropped all the way from No. 5 to No.11 when it lost its second game. Yeah, it was to Pitt rather than tOSU, but late losses are very damaging. Today's Michgan-tOSU game was almost universally viewed as an elimination game. No way Michigan gets back into the playoff over the winner of PSU-Wisconsin at this point.

 

[rudedude]

Exactly right. A team with the same record, that beat us by 39, deserves to be higher. I also agree, if we beat Wisconsin, we should jump over them.

I disagree. Yes we lost to them, however, we beat the two teams that defeated them and one team, Iowa, we boat-raced out of the Beav.

 

[fairgambit]

I disagree. Yes we lost to them, however, we beat the two teams that defeated them and one team, Iowa, we boat-raced out of the Beav.

Lets look at it this way. They lost to Iowa by 1 and OSU, in double overtime, by 3. Two losses by a total of 4 points. They also beat Wisconsin. We lost by 39 to them and by 3 to a Pitt team that gave up 61 to Syracuse today. If the roles were reversed, and we had beaten them by 39, most here would be screaming bloody murder if we were ranked behind them. It really doesn't matter. Beat Wisconsin and we will jump them. We will not jump over OSU unless we blow out Wisconsin, an unlikely possibility.

 

[Lion8286]

Stupid conversation until after next Saturday night.

 

[AWS1022]

Lets look at it this way. They lost to Iowa by 1 and OSU, in double overtime, by 3. Two losses by a total of 4 points. They also beat Wisconsin. We lost by 39 to them and by 3 to a Pitt team that gave up 61 to Syracuse today. If the roles were reversed, and we had beaten them by 39, most here would be screaming bloody murder if we were ranked behind them. It really doesn't matter. Beat Wisconsin and we will jump them. We will not jump over OSU unless we blow out Wisconsin, an unlikely possibility.

Are they ranking teams based on how they are now or how they were in week 4? Because if that's the case, they better get Ole Miss, Baylor and Maryland into the conversation.

 

[doctornick]

While I think it's possible that Michigan will be ranked higher this week than PSU (I don't think they will given their losses were late season), it's completely irrelevant as the Big Ten champion will end up higher than UM.

 

[AldenT]

Are they ranking teams based on how they are now or how they were in week 4? Because if that's the case, they better get Ole Miss, Baylor and Maryland into the conversation.

They also don't care about margin of victory, but he's on a roll....

 

[pkg5002]

Had a question: is there any way that PSU and OSU can close out the regular season ranked 3 & 4 respectively? (Considering that we beat Wisc handily in the Conf. Champ. game) I mean for something like that to happen, what needs to take place? I ask for selfish reasons, as in, I would rather let OSU face Bama in the semi's and us face Clemson or whoever makes it to 2 and then face BAMA/OSU in the title game. TIA!

 

[bjf1991]

Had a question: is there any way that PSU and OSU can close out the regular season ranked 3 & 4 respectively? (Considering that we beat Wisc handily in the Conf. Champ. game) I mean for something like that to happen, what needs to take place? I ask for selfish reasons, as in, I would rather let OSU face Bama in the semi's and us face Clemson or whoever makes it to 2 and then face BAMA/OSU in the title game. TIA!

Barring BOTH UW and Clemson losing next week.........any scenario where PSU makes the "Final Four" will have them playing 'Bama in Round 1

 

[pkg5002]

Barring BOTH UW and Clemson losing next week.........any scenario where PSU makes the "Final Four" will have them playing 'Bama in Round 1

Argh! I would rather play them in the title game. Ohh well! Thanks for the reply bjf!

 

[bjf1991]

Argh! I would rather play them in the title game. Ohh well! Thanks for the reply bjf!

Wouldn't this be nice.......VT and CU both pull off the upsets......and:

PSU gets OSU in round one (as a 2-3 matchup)

Right now - I'd put PSU as a TD favorite (at least)

 

[21Guns]

Wouldn't this be nice.......VT and CU both pull off the upsets......and:

PSU gets OSU in round one (as a 2-3 matchup)

Right now - I'd put PSU as a TD favorite (at least)

Colorado isn't pulling anything off but a 35 point pounding. They cant hang with Washington.

The only shot is VT.

 

[LafayetteBear]

Colorado isn't pulling anything off but a 35 point pounding. They cant hang with Washington.

The only shot is VT.

I think you are correct in saying that Washington is better than Colorado, but I don't see that game as a "35 point pounding." What convinces you it will be so uncompetitive? The Buffs have some good players.

 

[Lion8286]

Colorado isn't pulling anything off but a 35 point pounding. They cant hang with Washington.

The only shot is VT.

After your 4-win Penn State prediction, why should anyone take any of your predications seriously??? LMAO.

WHAT A GOOF!!!

Maybe you should study some game film Miles. HAH!

 

[bjf1991]

I think you are correct in saying that Washington is better than Colorado, but I don't see that game as a "35 point pounding." What convinces you it will be so uncompetitive? The Buffs have some good players.

21 Guns just increased Colorado's chances of winning from 25% to 50%.

Thanks Gunsie!!!!! You're the Boss!!!

 

[pkg5002]

Wouldn't this be nice.......VT and CU both pull off the upsets......and:

PSU gets OSU in round one (as a 2-3 matchup)

Right now - I'd put PSU as a TD favorite (at least)

Ohh mannn... stop getting my hopes so high up there!!

 

[Howie'81]

Exactly right. A team with the same record, that beat us by 39, deserves to be higher. I also agree, if we beat Wisconsin, we should jump over them.

Bullshit. We beat both teams Michigan lost to and had a better conference record. In fact, they finished third in the east.

 

[KnightSlayer]

If we beat Wisconsin, we will be in the playoff. If they say that overall resume is more important than the conf champ and put OSU in over us, then that same argument can be used to put us in over Washington because our resume is better than Washington's.

If they say you can't keep Washington out because they won the PAC Ten, then you can't put OSU in over us seeing how we beat them head to head and won our conference.

I think Washington's weak strength of schedule will do them in. Their non conf schedule was Rutgers, Idaho and Portland State. WEAK!

Hell, one of our non conf wins may turn out to be against the AAC conf champ.

If these teams win next week, i think this will be the top 4.

Alabama
OSU
Clemson
Penn State.

 

[NJ Lion]

Michigan lost 2 of their last 3 games. Both PSU and Wisconsin will be ranked ahead of them. I also really enjoyed watching coach Hairball have a meltdown during his press conference. He's a piece of work.

 

[21Guns]

Harbaugh's meltdown was by design: Make the loss seem like it was the officials' fault, to play to the committee.

I don't doubt it for a second. Agenda.

 

[21Guns]

21 Guns just increased Colorado's chances of winning from 25% to 50%.

Thanks Gunsie!!!!! You're the Boss!!!

You don't even get any likes anymore, you little freak. You just throw out attacks like a 9 year old. No wonder they ban you from meetings.

 

[FVL]

Michigan managed to close out their (regular) season with two consecutive losses.

Michigan will not have an opportunity to atone for either of those late season losses via participating in (let alone winning) their conference's championship game.

Late season losses matter. Losing twice in your final two games matters more. Combined with being a non-participant in a CCG to enhance your resume vs a strong conference opponent = game, set, and match. Michigan is no longer a factor in the currently configured four-team playoff format.

 

[BrianS]

As they were to us in 2008, IOWA will be Michigan's "achilles heel!"

 

[Kiber]

Here is the hypocrisy problem of the CFB Committee IF they try and put Michigan ahead of both PSU & Wisconsin ....

> On the premise that they reward teams with how they are playing NOW and not earlier in the season, the CFB Committee has awarded a 3-loss USC team a higher ranking than many 2-loss teams and some 1-loss teams. Again, their defense is "USC is playing the best football now....". And turds like Herbstreit and Pollack defend the CFB Committee for making that decision and stating that USC is a very good team "right now".

.... Well based on the theory they are using for rewarding USC with a higher ranking, then should they not punish Michigan for the exact opposite??? Michigan lost 2 of their last 3. Their QB is not healthy. And their lone win in the last 3 games was a home game struggle vs. Indiana.

If the Committee rewards a USC for playing well NOW, then they need to punish Michigan for not playing well NOW.

 

[b&w1987]

All I know is that Michigan and OSU will sitting on their collective a$$e$ watching PSU and Wisky play for the conference championship. OSU made their case and bed the cold night of Oct 22.

 

[coveydidnt]

I think you are correct in saying that Washington is better than Colorado, but I don't see that game as a "35 point pounding." What convinces you it will be so uncompetitive? The Buffs have some good players.

If CU did win, they would be in the playoff themselves.

 

[LMTLION]

The ultimate would be to play Osu in the playoffs in 2 vs 3, somehow. Settle it on a neutral field. This would bring this rivalry back to how it felt in the mid and late 90s when we were both really good prior to our dark years of the early 2000s.

 

[fairgambit]

Bullshit. We beat both teams Michigan lost to and had a better conference record. In fact, they finished third in the east.

You are thinking logically and based only upon on field performance. I am adding in the "pariah factor" which, like it or not, will on the minds of those on the Committee. I hope I am wrong. The good thing is, if I am, I will be happy about it.

 

[lionroar88]

Lets look at it this way. They lost to Iowa by 1 and OSU, in double overtime, by 3. Two losses by a total of 4 points. They also beat Wisconsin. We lost by 39 to them and by 3 to a Pitt team that gave up 61 to Syracuse today. If the roles were reversed, and we had beaten them by 39, most here would be screaming bloody murder if we were ranked behind them. It really doesn't matter. Beat Wisconsin and we will jump them. We will not jump over OSU unless we blow out Wisconsin, an unlikely possibility.

PSU lost to Michigan in week 4, when we were down to our 3rd and 4th string LBers. Anyone with 1/9th of a brain knew there was no way we were going to be in that game. We also lost to Pitt on a hail mary last play of the game, where we were down 2 of our best LB, and spotted them 28pts. PSU is on an 8 game winning streak and they have lost 2 of their last 3, both to teams that PSU beat. They choked, we manned up and turned it around. If they wanted to win the Big Ten East, they controlled their destiny and they choked.

If the roles were reversed, I wouldn't expect PSU to be in the Top Ten.

 

[klemman]

All I know is that Michigan and OSU will sitting on their collective a$$e$ watching PSU and Wisky play for the conference championship. OSU made their case and bed the cold night of Oct 22.

Regarding the Conference Championship, absolutely. Regarding the playoffs, it still up in the air.

 

[Code Blue]

Neither team that is playing in the B10 championship will make the playoffs. Bama, Ohio State, Clemson, and either Washington or Oklahoma (Watch how much OK gets talked up if they beat OSU; they are trying really hard not to leave out 2 Power 5 conferences).

 

[klemman]

Where Michigan is ranked this Tuesday is irrelevant. To a certain extent where OSU is irrelevant. If PSU beats Wisconsn they'll pass Michigan and quite possibly OSU. Hell, if Alabama and Clemson lose, PSU could find itself as the number one seed.

 

[klemman]

Neither team that is playing in the B10 championship will make the playoffs. Bama, Ohio State, Clemson, and either Washington or Oklahoma (Watch how much OK gets talked up if they beat OSU; they are trying really hard not to leave out 2 Power 5 conferences).

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If PSU wins I think it would be difficult to leave them out, especially if they win by double digits. One of the criteria is who is playing the best at the time of the playoffs, and the N. Lions will fit that bill. I do think that if Wisconsin beats PSU there is a strong chance that they get left out with OHIO State getting the slot, especially if Washington wins convincingly.

 

[rojo36]

Exactly right. A team with the same record, that beat us by 39, deserves to be higher. I also agree, if we beat Wisconsin, we should jump over them.

Michigan beat Wisconsin earlier...........................

 

[rojo36]

Bullshit. We beat both teams Michigan lost to and had a better conference record. In fact, they finished third in the east.

Psu played both of "those teams" at home and UM played them away-don't tell me that does not affect the final scores.

 

[fairgambit]

Michigan beat Wisconsin earlier...........................

True, but if we beat Wisconsin we become the BigTen Champions and that should be enough to move us ahead of them.

 

[fairgambit]

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If PSU wins I think it would be difficult to leave them out, especially if they win by double digits. One of the criteria is who is playing the best at the time of the playoffs, and the N. Lions will fit that bill. I do think that if Wisconsin beats PSU there is a strong chance that they get left out with OHIO State getting the slot, especially if Washington wins convincingly.

If Washington and Clemson win their conference championships both, with only 1 loss, will stay ahead of us, as will Alabama. Ohio State, given their 3 wins in 4 games over top 8 teams, and their #2 ranking, are a mortal lock to get in. If we beat Wisconsin, we need a Washington or Clemson loss to make the final 4. Anyone who thinks otherwise is going to be very disappointed come Sunday selection time.