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Minnesota wrestlers under investigation for distributing Xanax

This may not be appropriate time to ask(sorry if offended)but I'll be honest as its on my mind, Does this increase our chances with Gable Steveson?
 
This whole thing is sad, just on the merit of what's in print so far...but I'll wait until the investigation unfolds before passing any judgment. Too many past stories with a missing fact here or there, a misquote, an overzealous reporter...whatever. Sure looks bad... real bad, but I'll wait to see.
 
This may not be appropriate time to ask(sorry if offended)but I'll be honest as its on my mind, Does this increase our chances with Gable Steveson?
I'll be honest, I had the same thoughts.. just didn't have the balls to ask. Lol. Really though, the more I think about this and learn, I like J even more than I did before. I'm sure I'm in the minority with that thinking but I feel if he kept each parent in the loop, worked with them during the entire process in how to protect and help the boys, then I may have handled things in the same way.
 
I'll be honest, I had the same thoughts.. just didn't have the balls to ask. Lol. Really though, the more I think about this and learn, I like J even more than I did before. I'm sure I'm in the minority with that thinking but I feel if he kept each parent in the loop, worked with them during the entire process in how to protect and help the boys, then I may have handled things in the same way.
If a much smaller amount, I'd probably feel the same way - not 1400-2500 pills. That needs to be nipped in the bud, stat.
 
Whatever facts might mitigate on J Rob's behalf will probably be for naught now that Deadspin has picked up the story; national publicity likely forces the university's hand.
 
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I'll be honest, I had the same thoughts.. just didn't have the balls to ask. Lol. Really though, the more I think about this and learn, I like J even more than I did before. I'm sure I'm in the minority with that thinking but I feel if he kept each parent in the loop, worked with them during the entire process in how to protect and help the boys, then I may have handled things in the same way.
One kid sells off the last 5 pills of his own prescription? Clean the stadium and don't do it again.

4 kids run an operation that involves theft, storage, and distribution? Notifying authorities, letting you know so you can lawyer up.
 
as a former drug and alcohol counselor who has seen people go thru withdrawal from xanax,it seems like the board is downplaying the severity of a drug that is generally not well understood. i would not wish xanax withdrawal on my worst enemy. the lack of understanding of this drug is especially dangerous in it's interaction with alcohol. the mixture of xanax and alcohol has a real wildcard effect. at times even the mixing of a small amount of alcohol with xanax can have very serious consequences up to and including death. given the proclivity of alcohol use among college students,this is a tragedy waiting to happen.it appears jrob did not understand the seriousness of the situation or ,worse, didn't care. i think a university bears a responsibility to educate staff and athletes in these matters. as far as protecting the names of the wrestlers involved,i don't buy it.their actions could have easily led to a tragedy or tragedies and they have to face the consequences.
 
I'd like to know who the former wrestler was and how he came across 2500 pills, then thought it a good idea to contact current members of team to set up a network of distribution?

Gee, thanks Mr Alumni for your post grad contribution back to the program [smh]
 
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I'd like to know who the former wrestler was and how he came across 2500 pills, then thought it a good idea to contact current members of team to set up a network of distribution?

Gee, thanks Mr Alumni for your post grad contribution back to the program [smh]
Let's remember, that was 2,500 pills still left after supposedly selling it for nine weeks.
 
Was curious about the related MN criminal statute, so here is the relevant summary:
  • Minnesota §152.02 defines Alprazolam (Xanax) as a Schedule IV drug.
  • Minnesota §152.024, 4th Degree Controlled Substance, makes illegal the sale of a Schedule IV drug to persons under 18. A conviction under the sale statute carries a 15-year max sentence, no minimum. [if sales were to MU students, it's unlikely this applies, but who knows]
  • Minnesota §152.025, 5th Degree Controlled Substance, makes illegal the sale of a Schedule IV drug to another person. A conviction under the sale statute carries a 5-year max sentence, no minimum.
  • §152.025 also makes illegal the unlawful possession of a Schedule IV drug, and comes with a 5-year max sentence, no minimum for a conviction.
The Star Tribune article reports that University police concluded that per their investigation whatever they found "Doesn't fit any [crime]." Not easy to square that statement away with the above statutes and what else has been reported, but perhaps the police will dive back in there now.
 
So this sentence was in the Star-Tribune article: "Robinson, 69, completed his 30th season at Minnesota this spring and has an impressive resume in his three decades in Dinkytown."

Two observations on that: First, in running down the accomplishments on his impressive resume, they talk about three times his teams won the NCAA tournament and neglect to mention the dual meet titles or his dual meet record against Cael. Jammenz ... time for an angry letter to the editor.

And second, the Goofs rassle in Dinkytown? Dinkytown! How did I not know that?
 
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You also have to think Federal for the sender and recipient of the drugs.
 
You also have to think Federal for the sender and recipient of the drugs.
State and federal drug laws run more or less parallel to each other; the most common factor dictating which system you wind up in is who arrested or investigated you. A key growing exception to this is states legalizing marijuana, despite it being Schedule I (same as heroin) on the fed side. That aside, the state and fed statutes themselves are mostly similar. If the drugs crossed state lines, or involve other offenses that have no state parallel, federal jurisdiction will likely trump, but that's all a conversation btwn state and fed investigators. Here, if all the actors are in MN I think it'll be unlikely the feds will bother, especially if it all took place at U of M. Really hinges on facts we don't know and who wants it more (or less).
 
Tikk...they said a former teammate sent the drugs through the mail...thats why I was thinking federal.
 
Coincidentally or otherwise, The Onion re-ran this 2013 piece today. (For those unfamiliar, it's a satire newspaper.)

http://www.theonion.com/article/man-worried-about-drug-dealer-whos-not-picking-up--34796

Man Worried About Drug Dealer Who's Not Picking Up Phone

ATLANTA—Growing increasingly concerned with each successive call, local man Ryan Mead, 24, began to worry late Tuesday afternoon after his drug dealer, Jared, failed to pick up his phone. “He usually always picks up around this time—I hope he’s okay,” Mead told reporters as he anxiously paced around his apartment, considering the possibility that the 19-year-old purveyor of marijuana, cocaine, and ecstasy could be lost, scared, and all alone out there somewhere. “Why isn’t he answering? I texted him, ‘Jared. Please, please pick up your phone,’ but he hasn’t responded. He’s got me worried sick!” After nearly 15 minutes with no response, Mead lost all hope and called his other guy.
 
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Tikk...they said a former teammate sent the drugs through the mail...thats why I was thinking federal.
I missed that, thanks. That could be a factor heightening fed interest, yeah, especially if mailed from outside the state. If mailed inside MN, state statutes could conceivably account for all offenses, but MN couldn't prosecute mailer if mailer was in, say, Wisconsin, so fed jurisdiction would be more appropriate. But my larger point was that federal jurisdiction always exists for I'm guessing all drug offenses; the feds could prosecute buy and busts in East Brooklyn if they wanted. Obviously not an efficient use of resources but unlike other offenses, drug sale and possession always amounts to "interstate commerce" whether it's crossing state lines, using the mail, etc., or not.
 
I just heard JRob's doctor has prescribed him Zoloft and Lexapro so he can deal with this stressful situation. Poor ol' guy..
 
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I bet he took an extra dose of Metoprolol and Lisinopril today aswell. Coach will come out of this OK in the end I hope.
 
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I'm getting pm's about who the drug sellers are that leaves me sick to the stomach. Too incredible to be true, yet reliable sources. I blame it on the millennials who've developed their own set of standards. It may be time to go dark, I can't take this.
 
I'm getting pm's about who the drug sellers are that leaves me sick to the stomach. Too incredible to be true, yet reliable sources. I blame it on the millennials who've developed their own set of standards. It may be time to go dark, I can't take this.
You won't go shot-for-shot, xan-for-xan with me, though... Last one responding to others wins. Loser has to donate $100x # of Xans/shots taken by winner to winner's favorite program.
 
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I'm getting pm's about who the drug sellers are that leaves me sick to the stomach. Too incredible to be true, yet reliable sources. I blame it on the millennials who've developed their own set of standards. It may be time to go dark, I can't take this.

I hope your pms goes away quickly. And yes, this story is quite unfortunate.
 
I'm getting pm's about who the drug sellers are that leaves me sick to the stomach. Too incredible to be true, yet reliable sources. I blame it on the millennials who've developed their own set of standards. It may be time to go dark, I can't take this.

Well you started your career in the dark ages .....

Truely jamz I feel sick for supporters of the program. But some sick SOB out there is probably thinking.....

The nat duals debate probably just got crushed....and.....snorted
 
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Was curious about the related MN criminal statute, so here is the relevant summary:
  • Minnesota §152.02 defines Alprazolam (Xanax) as a Schedule IV drug.
  • Minnesota §152.024, 4th Degree Controlled Substance, makes illegal the sale of a Schedule IV drug to persons under 18. A conviction under the sale statute carries a 15-year max sentence, no minimum. [if sales were to MU students, it's unlikely this applies, but who knows]
  • Minnesota §152.025, 5th Degree Controlled Substance, makes illegal the sale of a Schedule IV drug to another person. A conviction under the sale statute carries a 5-year max sentence, no minimum.
  • §152.025 also makes illegal the unlawful possession of a Schedule IV drug, and comes with a 5-year max sentence, no minimum for a conviction.
The Star Tribune article reports that University police concluded that per their investigation whatever they found "Doesn't fit any [crime]." Not easy to square that statement away with the above statutes and what else has been reported, but perhaps the police will dive back in there now.
When I heard that it doesn't fit a crime I figures it was because it is all hearsay. Nobody was caught with anything, it's all based off a player telling a reporter about it. Unless I misses something.
 
I'm getting pm's about who the drug sellers are that leaves me sick to the stomach. Too incredible to be true, yet reliable sources. I blame it on the millennials who've developed their own set of standards. It may be time to go dark, I can't take this.
For all I've busted on you, that was all in good fun. This isn't fun for anyone, and it hits a lot closer to home for you than for us (although we certainly can relate). Wish you weren't going through this.

... and now that I've sympathized with Jammen, I think I'll go shower in bleach. (kidding!)
 
I'm getting pm's about who the drug sellers are that leaves me sick to the stomach. Too incredible to be true, yet reliable sources. I blame it on the millennials who've developed their own set of standards. It may be time to go dark, I can't take this.

Jrob must be an 11th century millennial.
 
I'm getting pm's about who the drug sellers are that leaves me sick to the stomach. Too incredible to be true, yet reliable sources. I blame it on the millennials who've developed their own set of standards. It may be time to go dark, I can't take this.

You can always jump on the Penn State train. I heard there is a job opening for a ticket taker. You will have submit your application to the Conductor, 21 Guns for approval.
 
Jammen In the Immortal words of Bill Clinton...I feel your Pain

This is Sad for Minny Fans, Sad for JRob Fans, and Sad for Wrestling Fans. Minnesota is a Premier Program and our sport sure does not need these kind of scandals as they tarnish our great sport. I sure hope this is not as bad as the initial report and is dealt with fairly but quickly:(
 
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When I heard that it doesn't fit a crime I figures it was because it is all hearsay. Nobody was caught with anything, it's all based off a player telling a reporter about it. Unless I misses something.
That'd be one reason. But that call should really be the DA's. Another possible reason is that these were University police not trying very hard to make a case for reasons easy enough to imagine.
 
I'm getting pm's about who the drug sellers are that leaves me sick to the stomach. Too incredible to be true, yet reliable sources. I blame it on the millennials who've developed their own set of standards. It may be time to go dark, I can't take this.

Stay strong Jammenz. My guess is we have heard less than 10% of the facts at this point. As bad as things look for the Gophers my thoughts and well wishes are for those student athletes who had nothing to do with this. Stay strong for those kids as they will likely need all the support they can find.
 
I've met JRob in person and I also have a good friend who was one of his teammates at Ok State. JRob is a good down to Earth guy who has done a lot of good things for wrestling. On top of that, he was a US Army Ranger who did a tour of duty in Vietnam. I'm afraid that the school administration is going to pretty much have their hands tied with this matter and JRob' s career is going to end in a fashion similar to what happened with JoePa. To put it mildly, that really sucks. JRob is one of the last of the Old Guard in the sport. If he steps down at Minn, it will be a passing of the torch.
 
I'm getting pm's about who the drug sellers are that leaves me sick to the stomach. Too incredible to be true, yet reliable sources. I blame it on the millennials who've developed their own set of standards. It may be time to go dark, I can't take this.
From the hints dropped on the Guillotine, I'm thinking I know who one of them is.
 
^you sure that isn't the add that is based off your computer history? I see no such add.
 
Neither do I - but thats funny in a strange way about suboxone if it based off computer history.
 
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