Minnesota wrestlers under investigation for distributing Xanax
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Your first day on the job and you get to suspend your most high profile coach. I bet he had an extra martini last night.
Then there's this little ditty at the end of the story...
Also on Tuesday, Robinson’s agent, James C.W. Bock, who issued a statement late Monday disputing allegations that Robinson acted improperly in self-policing the drug issue, wrote to the Star Tribune in a text message: “I have no further comment until the University starts telling the truth about what it knows.”
Those are bridge burning comments there, and I can't see how JRob survives them even if he is completely innocent of any rumor out there. You can't call your employer a liar in public and expect to keep your job. Period.
bwifan
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Agreed he just took it to a whole new level... IMHO he must feel he is gone no matter what to put that kind of statement out there and figures he is going down swinging and letting everyone know what he believes are the facts...
The statements of the past two days have the odor of posturing in advance of the buyout discussions.
Probably some of that, but mostly, at this point at least, the posturing is likely about clearing and/or shifting any potential criminal/civil liability (for any party: kids, J Rob, the school, other associated parties), because that could impact the terms of dismissal ("for cause"?). From what's been reported there's nothing that points to J Rob or the school having criminal or civil liability, IMO, but there's a lot that's up in the air not worth speculating about except to say that it's practically impossible to negotiate a buyout until the parties are assured about the results of all investigations.
I think I maximized what I got from my words. Less typing on a phone.
JRob's home searched and pc taken.
Almost time to turn the lights out ....sad
http://m.startribune.com/j-robinson...tive-leave-by-mark-coyle/381532691/?section=/
Almost time to turn the lights out ....sad
http://m.startribune.com/j-robinson...tive-leave-by-mark-coyle/381532691/?section=/
I've had some pretty less-than-complimentary things to say about JRob since National Duals in sometime around 2007, but this really bites, for him. I know people wanna protect the young adults, but the way J's been drug through the mud, more or less, I hope the full story and names come out. If people are ready to throw him under the bus, then they should at least be known.
That being said, I had a current Gopher stop by practice last night and he's going back up to the Twin Cities to work a Jrob camp next week. I'm guessing J is just letting things take their course.
That being said, I had a current Gopher stop by practice last night and he's going back up to the Twin Cities to work a Jrob camp next week. I'm guessing J is just letting things take their course.
University Police requesting and executing the warrant means the school intends to press criminal charges against him. Firing for cause would be a mere by-product.
This is crappy employer-employee tactics. School could've referred the case to city or state police instead, and let the employment case flow from a neutral investigation.
If I'm J Rob's attorney, I'm loaded for bear. Scorched Earth Policy.
This is crappy employer-employee tactics. School could've referred the case to city or state police instead, and let the employment case flow from a neutral investigation.
If I'm J Rob's attorney, I'm loaded for bear. Scorched Earth Policy.
Said early on that I wouldn't post again until more facts come out. This isn't it...
Just want to say that there will be some hateful, hurtful, irresponsible stuff said about J and about the Minnesota program, the way this appears to be heading...hope everyone here keeps it classy.
Just want to say that there will be some hateful, hurtful, irresponsible stuff said about J and about the Minnesota program, the way this appears to be heading...hope everyone here keeps it classy.
Here's the attorney. Starts at 22 minute mark: http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/audio/sports-to-the-max-with-mike-max/
Per J's wife their house was not searched. The warrant was for J's office and happened weeks ago. How can the media get this kind of thing wrong unless they are being fed lies by someone.
Up until March 25th there were just suspicions of drug use, until an anonymous source details drug dealing and amnesty to a reporter. Attorney questions whether the source is really a wrestler or a university staffer. J's supposed amnesty was actually the Safe Harbor program the University offers which was outlined in emails from interim AD Goetz.
So this thing stinks to high heaven and it looks like the U is trying to cover their own ass.
Per J's wife their house was not searched. The warrant was for J's office and happened weeks ago. How can the media get this kind of thing wrong unless they are being fed lies by someone.
Up until March 25th there were just suspicions of drug use, until an anonymous source details drug dealing and amnesty to a reporter. Attorney questions whether the source is really a wrestler or a university staffer. J's supposed amnesty was actually the Safe Harbor program the University offers which was outlined in emails from interim AD Goetz.
So this thing stinks to high heaven and it looks like the U is trying to cover their own ass.
This makes a lot more sense -- both the search location and that J Rob would've acted with University guidance.
Non-lawyer in me wonders why the University needed a warrant to search the on-campus office of an employee ... but I'll leave that one to the attorneys.
This also explains the attorney's aggressive stance toward the University.
Public employees have a reasonable expectation of privacy against warrantless searches, and that would extend to the contents of his computer. Many employers (probably most by now) get around this by having you waive that right when they issue you your network access.
it'd be routine to ask for consent to the search first. i won't speculate whether that happened but I'd also not read anything into a scenario where a person refuses consent. Plenty of good reasons to not want your employer going through your computer, especially if you've been working at a job forever and your life and work are practically indistinguishable.
Here is video of Bock: http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/...ch-leave/?mc_cid=7ffe7c45c4&mc_eid=1db055755e
WAIT.....The perplexing thing is...why is Jammenz' picture now a happy face!
The significance of immediate political correctness is far more important than justice running its course. Unfortunately!!!
Latest....
http://www.twincities.com/2016/06/10/u-knew-of-wrestling-coachs-drug-concerns-in-march/
March 10th? Things that make you go hmmmmm. ....
http://www.twincities.com/2016/06/10/u-knew-of-wrestling-coachs-drug-concerns-in-march/
March 10th? Things that make you go hmmmmm. ....
Really doesn't add much to what we already knew. He suspected he had a drug use problem, informed the university, conducted tests, and had essays written. I have no problem with any of that. Reasonable actions to take, even if using is illegal.
The real issue is drug selling. Were drugs actually being sold by wrestlers, and did J know about it. If no drug selling, I think J is in the clear. If there was drug selling and if J knew about it and didn't inform the university while performing a coverup of sorts, he's done. So the remaining questions imo center around whether selling was occurring, and if so, what did J do about that.
The fact that he had 10-15 wrestlers on Xanax indicates to me that a selling ring was close to the team if not on it. That's my speculation.
The real issue is drug selling. Were drugs actually being sold by wrestlers, and did J know about it. If no drug selling, I think J is in the clear. If there was drug selling and if J knew about it and didn't inform the university while performing a coverup of sorts, he's done. So the remaining questions imo center around whether selling was occurring, and if so, what did J do about that.
The fact that he had 10-15 wrestlers on Xanax indicates to me that a selling ring was close to the team if not on it. That's my speculation.
"“to protect the integrity of the University investigation, you are not to discuss the complaint or allegations set forth in the complaint with anyone from the wrestling program.”
This from the letter the newly hired AD sent to coach Robinson. A little late for that, eh?
This from the letter the newly hired AD sent to coach Robinson. A little late for that, eh?
I generally agree that the differences between U of M and J Rob will likely come down to distinctions between using and selling, specificity and vagueness, and perhaps also what was known vs what one side will argue should have been known. That said I'd not necessarily call the "10-15 wrestlers on Xanax" a "fact" unless you're looking at something I'm not seeing. J Rob's email exchanges with U of M officials only concede drug use, and don't even name what drug(s), per the Shipley article. It's not really possible to infer the accuracy of the allegations from just that.
Somebody on The G posted that they moved it to River Falls, WI. I couldn't give that as 100% yes, but it seems lii a silly thing to fib about. I know the one at Waldorf in IA is going on.
One of the guys in my club... He's a good kid, but if you get him out of his small town, he gets spacey and big-eyed. He's checking in with the trainer on check-in day. The trained asks if he's on any meds... Well, they're instructed to be on Valtrex, in order to prevent herpes spreading at all through camp. The kid tells them he's on Xanax, and then catches himself. His teammate laughs hardy from across the room.
My guys are some doorknobs, I tell ya what. But I laughed quite a bit when he told me that.
There's a message on The Guillotine from JRob's daughter saying he will be fired next week and she is urging their fans to e-mail the Board of Regents in opposition. Lot of parallels with how JoePA went down. Family claiming he is getting railroaded by the administration.
Like any situation in corporate America today, got to have that chair when the music stops playing.
I admire J for telling the Admin to go pound sand. Firing is bad enough but the public humiliation that the Admin will leak out should be criminal.
Friends, Family, Supporters of J Robinson & Minnesota Wrestling,
A lot of you have asked how you can help or what you can do to show support for my dad and his coaching career at the University.
It is a hard thing to ask for help, but if you wouldn't mind taking a few minutes out of your day I would be grateful beyond words. The situation he has been put in, and the manner in which the University is handling it and treating him is unfair and misguided to say the least. The media ran away with a story with the intent of getting some good headlines - but reported with missing facts, and did not dig very deep. I can tell you that the emotional, mental, physical, weary time suck and financial toll this has taken on my family has been more than I will ever be able to describe. My dad is the best man, dad, and coach I know. He is a man of principle and honor. He is a man who has spent his entire life helping young men better themselves both on and off the wrestling mat.
Please read this and help us by emailing your support to the regents listed below. Pass this along to whomever, and thank you in advance.
#reinstatejrob
#jcwbesq
Firing of Coach J Robinson is likely to occur next week. No official reason has ever been given as to why Coach J Robinson was suspended. U of M is in the process of manufacturing reasons to justify their actions of firing Coach J Robinson.
If you are confused as to how this situation is being handled, or want to show your support for J, please contact the University of Minnesota Board of Regents TODAY.
The Board of Regents is the governing body of the university, ultimately every staff member answers to them.
• Why has the U of M not disclosed what they knew when?
• How is a 30 year honored and respected coach thrown to the wolves with virtually no support from the university?
• How is an anonymous tip, submitted via a website, grounds for suspension?
BOARD OF REGENTS
Dean Johnson, Chair
djohns@umn.edu
David McMillan
dmcmillan@umn.edu
Thomas Anderson
tja@umn.edu
Richard Beeson
rbeeson@umn.edu
Laura Brod
lbrod@umn.edu
Abdul Omari
omari002@umn.edu
Linda Cohen
lacohen@umn.edu
Thomas Devine
twdevine@umn.edu
Michael Hsu
hsu@umn.edu
Peggy Lucas
lucas070@umn.edu
Darrin Rosha
drosha@umn.edu
Patricia Simmons
simmons@umn.edu
Brian Steeves, Executive Director
stee0168@umn.edu
A lot of you have asked how you can help or what you can do to show support for my dad and his coaching career at the University.
It is a hard thing to ask for help, but if you wouldn't mind taking a few minutes out of your day I would be grateful beyond words. The situation he has been put in, and the manner in which the University is handling it and treating him is unfair and misguided to say the least. The media ran away with a story with the intent of getting some good headlines - but reported with missing facts, and did not dig very deep. I can tell you that the emotional, mental, physical, weary time suck and financial toll this has taken on my family has been more than I will ever be able to describe. My dad is the best man, dad, and coach I know. He is a man of principle and honor. He is a man who has spent his entire life helping young men better themselves both on and off the wrestling mat.
Please read this and help us by emailing your support to the regents listed below. Pass this along to whomever, and thank you in advance.
#reinstatejrob
#jcwbesq
Firing of Coach J Robinson is likely to occur next week. No official reason has ever been given as to why Coach J Robinson was suspended. U of M is in the process of manufacturing reasons to justify their actions of firing Coach J Robinson.
If you are confused as to how this situation is being handled, or want to show your support for J, please contact the University of Minnesota Board of Regents TODAY.
The Board of Regents is the governing body of the university, ultimately every staff member answers to them.
• Why has the U of M not disclosed what they knew when?
• How is a 30 year honored and respected coach thrown to the wolves with virtually no support from the university?
• How is an anonymous tip, submitted via a website, grounds for suspension?
BOARD OF REGENTS
Dean Johnson, Chair
djohns@umn.edu
David McMillan
dmcmillan@umn.edu
Thomas Anderson
tja@umn.edu
Richard Beeson
rbeeson@umn.edu
Laura Brod
lbrod@umn.edu
Abdul Omari
omari002@umn.edu
Linda Cohen
lacohen@umn.edu
Thomas Devine
twdevine@umn.edu
Michael Hsu
hsu@umn.edu
Peggy Lucas
lucas070@umn.edu
Darrin Rosha
drosha@umn.edu
Patricia Simmons
simmons@umn.edu
Brian Steeves, Executive Director
stee0168@umn.edu
This is so sad, it reminds me so much of the JoPa saga. No one and I mean no one gave a shit about how Joe was handled, other than Penn State people who knew the man. Everyone else who listened to the main stream media, seemed to think he got what he deserved. I just wonder when the general public will finally wake up, if ever, and really educate themselves and not automatically rely on the the media for their agenda driven version of any issue. Good question would be how many MN fans thought that JoPa got the shaft, I doubt there were many, as the majority of people I deal with in PA, MD, NJ, NY and OH, that are much closer to the JoPa situation, but knew very little about PSU, all bought into the media lynch hunt.
We've become a car crash society...it's not me, so f*ck it, get some popcorn and we'll enjoy other's misfortune. Until it happens to you and yours that is.
If they have proof of drug sales and use by the team as widespread as it is being reported, then he should get canned...along with whomever is selling. That's the burden of leadership...it's not just one individual but a trend among the team.
If this is overreaction based on rumors and there were no dealers etc, then the Minnesota admin is just trying to feed the PR/media beast and some serious crap is wrong In Little Canada.
I do not claim to know what happened in MN, I don't think anyone knows just yet and that's my point, yet we have tons of people claiming to know what should happen if this that or the other thing took place. Let's wait until we have a better idea of what actually took place.
"Prosecutors are declining to charge a member of the University of Minnesota wrestling team with dealing prescription drugs. A spokesperson for the Hennepin County Attorney’s Office tells The FOX 9 INVESTIGATORS there is, “insufficient evidence at this time.”
So this story went from a Fox 9 Investigates report of an anonymous source alleging "four dealers and 10-15 team members using" to insufficient evidence to prosecute a single team member.
So this story went from a Fox 9 Investigates report of an anonymous source alleging "four dealers and 10-15 team members using" to insufficient evidence to prosecute a single team member.
