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Mizzou in trouble with the NCAA

well, if you have a degree from Mizzou and put that on your resume, you have participated in academic fraud.

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Can their players transfer immediately and without penalty? Do we want any of them?
 
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Just another reason to make sure that your potentially disgruntled academic tutors stay well-compensated and extremely gruntled.
 
In the NCAA today, if you're not cheating, you're not competing. Virtually every school cheats. It's just a matter of degree. Even Stanford, the paragon of virtue, was fined and reprimanded by the NCAA as a result of rules violations committed in 2014 in football and softball. The NCAA simply does not have enough enforcement capability to catch everyone, and so most schools get away with it.
 
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Yep Mizzou probably got in trouble for same thing every other school in the SEC is probably doing but it is the new kid on the block in the conference so it will take the punishment.
 
Yep Mizzou probably got in trouble for same thing every other school in the SEC is probably doing but it is the new kid on the block in the conference so it will take the punishment.
LOL Every school in the SEC? How about every school in the nation, DI, DII, DIII included!
 
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I wonder if the former Clemson QB Kelly Bryant wants to rethink his transfer to Mizzou now? I just read that an Arkansas WR also is transferring there and that next season is/was supposed to be one of their best in years.
 
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Yep Mizzou probably got in trouble for same thing every other school in the SEC is probably doing but it is the new kid on the block in the conference so it will take the punishment.
The message has been sent: the next time Alabama cheats at recruiting Vanderbilt will get his with sanctions.
 
The message has been sent: the next time Alabama cheats at recruiting Vanderbilt will get his with sanctions.

Funny thing is this the first time Missouri football has been on probation and were only other SEC school not be Vanderbilt is the other.
 
The message has been sent: the next time Alabama cheats at recruiting Vanderbilt will get his with sanctions.

The rationale being that Vanderbilt, with all of their smart people, stood by and let it happen instead of helping tutor the bama players.
 
The NCAA simply does not have enough enforcement capability to catch everyone, and so most schools get away with it.
They could hire some of those employed in the academic integrity program that was foisted on PSU,
 
And Mizzou has announced they will appeal the sanctions. Stated that they cooperated through the whole investigation and got hit with those sanctions anyway..
 
So the point to be learned is that you should lie to the NCAA. Missouri admitted academic fraud and got punished. Meanwhile UNC just denied fraud (in the face of all evidence) and the NCAA said ‘ok’. :rolleyes:
 
The tutor is getting the worst of it ... a 10 year show cause ... it must have been their own idea to keep all those kids eligible for the good of ole mizzou?
 
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So the point to be learned is that you should lie to the NCAA. Missouri admitted academic fraud and got punished. Meanwhile UNC just denied fraud (in the face of all evidence) and the NCAA said ‘ok’. :rolleyes:

No one knows the secret talks with UNC "we will kill your basketball honey pot Mr Emmert"
 
And Mizzou has announced they will appeal the sanctions. Stated that they cooperated through the whole investigation and got hit with those sanctions anyway..

Mizzou:

Hey! We helped! We're just tryin' ta help here! You guys should cut us a break, right? We did the right thing!

NCAA:

SANCTIONS SUCKAS!!!

Mizzou:

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https://www.si.com/college-football/2019/01/31/missouri-postseason-ban-ncaa-barry-odom-kelly-bryant

One rogue tutor is what the NCAA said it found. No systemic fraud. One tutor. 13 athletes.
Missouri self-reported, suspened the athletes, fired the tutor, assisted with the investigation and the NCAA cited MU for "exemplary cooperation." The NCAA hammered to school.
UNC told a farcical story, denied what was the truth and got nada.
In his teleconference today, even the NCAA lead enforcement committee guy admitted he could not see why any school would cooperate going forward.

From the SI article:

Last October, as the investigation into a massive sex abuse scandal at Baylor advanced, the NCAA advised the school to consider a one-year postseason ban. In 2017, Ole Miss got a two-year ban and the same amount of probation as Missouri for committing 15 Level I violations related to years of illegal recruiting tactics. Ohio State got a one-year ban in 2012 after a wide-ranging tattoo and memorabilia scandal rocked the program and forced coach Jim Tressel to resign.

And Missouri employed a wayward tutor without adequate oversight. This is like comparing apples to asteroids, proof that on top of its indentured servitude-esque business model, the NCAA is also wildly inconsistent. Is there some sort of punishment dartboard at headquarters in Indianapolis, and Frank, the guy who tossed the Buckeyes’ dart and always kind of hooks it left, also threw it for Mizzou?
 
Yep Mizzou probably got in trouble for same thing every other school in the SEC is probably doing but it is the new kid on the block in the conference so it will take the punishment.
LOL Every school in the SEC? How about every school in the nation, DI, DII, DIII included!

d2 and d3 don’t get these perks.
 
The tutor is getting the worst of it ... a 10 year show cause ... it must have been their own idea to keep all those kids eligible for the good of ole mizzou?

If the tutor is getting a show clause., she/he might open the doors on how this all happens.
 
If the tutor is getting a show clause., she/he might open the doors on how this all happens.

If you read the findings, the NCAA said she was not a very reliable witness. She has a long history of...of... well, to put it kindly, of erratic behavior. Missouri made two mistakes. It hired her as a tutor. It admitted she had gone rogue and cheated for 12 athletes, many of whom were baseball and softball players --- not exactly high up on the "gotta keep 'em eligible" scale.
 
I wonder if the former Clemson QB Kelly Bryant wants to rethink his transfer to Mizzou now? I just read that an Arkansas WR also is transferring there and that next season is/was supposed to be one of their best in years.

At this time reports are that Bryant plans to stay.
 
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