A lot of conversation lately regarding the NCAA and the penalties they have recently handed down to Notre Dame and now Louisville. For a minute lets put the NCAA and their questionable ways on the back burner. It seems there are more of these types of episodes happening today then in any other time. Prostitution, drugs, adultery, money, bribery, and educational misrepresentation. Why? Simply today we have more athletes that are morally corrupt coming from non traditional, dysfunctional families. These families along with their children are willing to subscribe to these particular ways and in return provide athletic services. Have you ever heard of these players family members shouting from the roof tops, expressing their disgust at a particular program because of the moral corruption that has happened to their son or daughter? Why? See above. The systems of higher learning who participate in cheating seek out those types of athletes. In a sense there made for each other. If my son or daughter would be exposed to these immoral ways it would not sit well with them only because of their up bringing and exposed. Don't be surprised when the NCAA begins to investigate the Georgia football program. These situations will cease to exist when more athletes are instilled with a moral compass.
Morally Corrupt College Athletes Are The Problem!
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Got a lot of energy tonight? Not much on Netflix?
Please take this opportunity to remember that Penn State has a culture problem.
The problem with the morally corrupt term is that morals are relative and one persons idea of morally corrupt is not the same as another’s. For example, how many of us would have beefed expelled from BYU for the things that we did on a routine weekend while in college. For that matter, caffeine is banned there, so I’d have been kicked out for what I did every morning.
Thanks for the thinly-veiled racism
Ironic that the worst point-shaving scandals were in the morally “pure” 50s.
Give me a break.
Give me a break.
Not to mention drinking coffee when you were done!
And the word "coaches" never once appears in the OP. Amazing.
Maybe not stated as I would, but there is validity to the premise.
Yes, morals are relative. Yet most good people agree that exposing HS prospects to
- prostitutes
- drugs
- offering money that is against the NCAA rules (don't care for the NCAA but all schools should agree to play by the same rules)
- fake classes even if some non-athlete students also take them
and other improper benefits are wrong and teaches things which eventually will be to the detriment of the athlete.
Yes, it is the individual athlete of certain values that is drawn to these things. Some programs are 10 X worse than others because it is part of their accepted practices and is tolerated.
But family values do play a huge role in shaping a young athlete's individual sense of right and wrong. It and the values that are currently being promoted by their pop culture heroes (pro athletes, entertainers, music artists) are often lacking in the morals with which most people in America would agree is acceptable. In fact, many seem to be openly marketing immorality in their work. Broken homes and high crime rates will do that to many. Many kids turn to sport and put everything into it because they believe that is the only way out. You are simply being dishonest if you don't think family values are at play in these things or if you are shouting racist loudly so you don't have to think.
That's why I don't like where these athletes are permitted to move on to a school that simply hasn't been caught yet when the school is sanctioned (Miss St). Make them face the consequence of the sanctions in which they participated if they did. And the NCAA should have hammered UNC. For what exactly is the NCAA even there? But it does start at home. Certain kids when exposed to that will be more likely to be drawn to it and others will want no part.
Yes, morals are relative. Yet most good people agree that exposing HS prospects to
- prostitutes
- drugs
- offering money that is against the NCAA rules (don't care for the NCAA but all schools should agree to play by the same rules)
- fake classes even if some non-athlete students also take them
and other improper benefits are wrong and teaches things which eventually will be to the detriment of the athlete.
Yes, it is the individual athlete of certain values that is drawn to these things. Some programs are 10 X worse than others because it is part of their accepted practices and is tolerated.
But family values do play a huge role in shaping a young athlete's individual sense of right and wrong. It and the values that are currently being promoted by their pop culture heroes (pro athletes, entertainers, music artists) are often lacking in the morals with which most people in America would agree is acceptable. In fact, many seem to be openly marketing immorality in their work. Broken homes and high crime rates will do that to many. Many kids turn to sport and put everything into it because they believe that is the only way out. You are simply being dishonest if you don't think family values are at play in these things or if you are shouting racist loudly so you don't have to think.
That's why I don't like where these athletes are permitted to move on to a school that simply hasn't been caught yet when the school is sanctioned (Miss St). Make them face the consequence of the sanctions in which they participated if they did. And the NCAA should have hammered UNC. For what exactly is the NCAA even there? But it does start at home. Certain kids when exposed to that will be more likely to be drawn to it and others will want no part.
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I found that strange about the Ole Miss case. They were sanctioned for giving impermissable benefits but the athletes who presumably received those benefits are allowed to move on without any penalty.
Nor "administrators" who look the other way.
These problems go away if you pay the players aboveboard and at what the market dictates.
Agreed. Fortunately, Penn State has exemplary leadership to navigate these unforgiving waters with resolve and determination to uphold our university's high ethical standards.
More like luck of the draw.
This is what I love about this board - the high moral standard. As a self professed street urchin with a serious lack of morality and integrity, I am honored and privileged to be (virtually) around a group of people who can consistently get on their pedestal and talk down to, and about, others.
It's an honor to post on the same board as jbenedict and it'sofficial and a few others. I hope one day a crumb of your moral superiority falls on my plate so that I may enjoy it as a dying man would devour his last meal.
Thank you both, and others, for being here. We are all better for your presence.
It's an honor to post on the same board as jbenedict and it'sofficial and a few others. I hope one day a crumb of your moral superiority falls on my plate so that I may enjoy it as a dying man would devour his last meal.
Thank you both, and others, for being here. We are all better for your presence.
I didn't think it was veiled at all. He doesn't like black people, it's clear with almost every post he makes. Might as well call it what it is.
Damn youth, while the non profit NCAA pays their leader 2 million to basically do nothing.
Agree but paying players isn't going to stop boosters etc. from offering more.
Nothing needs reforming more than other peoples’ habits.
-Mark Twain
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Do fans give NFL players more money than the owners pay them? If so, is there anything wrong with that?
Which one of these individuals would you consider the least and most morally corrupt?
- A 50 year old coach who hears about a player doing something wrong ... sexual assault (MSU, Baylor, etc), taking improper gifts (O$U, Bama, etc) or murder (Baylor) and does nothing, tries to cover it up and/or lies to NCAA/school admin
- A 40 year old booster paying recruits to come to his alma mater in hopes of winning more games
- A 17 year old kid living in poverty accepting money/gifts from adults because he is a great athlete
That's right. I can't imagine what it must be like to work so hard for almost nothing and go to college sponsored events where millionaires spend a ton of dough to talk with you and get your autograph and then forget your name two years after graduation.
The system is inherently unfair and corrupt. Lots of rumors that the top of the NCAA is going to explode with several top end coaches and administrators being exposed in college basketball's evil association with shoe companies and handlers.
Regardless, the system is what it is. I've predicted, for some time, that the NCAA and college system will be decimated in our lifetimes. But it isn't the kids, its the adults.
Jbenedict - You seem to have a pretty good handle on what "these families" and "these players" are like. Can you let the board know how many of these people you have actually met and what qualifies you to judge their families are dysfunctional?
Back in my day when recruits were given drugs and hookers, nobody talked about it and we minded our own damn business. Now everybody has to be a big blabbermouth and the bleeding hearts cry about how it is "wrong".
