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Trying to start a serious thread with no BS. I personally love the challenge of our brackets. Suriono bracket no big difference between 2nd or 3rd. Well except that Dance has McGhee and Youtsey Thursday (yuk for him). Jimmy has an opportunity to get the Gasica monkey off his back and gain confidence in the process. Zain and Nolf yahn, should have great opportunity for bounds Thursday.

Joseph vs. Stanford loss round one, a little payback on the menu, Hall gets Epperly in quarters should be an interesting match. Bo should have some nice bonus thursday and an interesting Friday with Dudkey and Brooks.

Love Cutchs seed and quarter match is also intriguing. To the semis? The worst bracket is Nick. A tough quarter thenSnyder. Bonus points possibilities in wrestle backs, other thoughts?
 
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With you 100% on Cutch. As bad as Jimmys might look on the surface, I think Cutch's will offset if things take a sour turn for Jimmy.
 
Lyco1990 said:
Trying to start a serious thread with no BS. I personally love the challenge of our brackets. Suriono bracket no big difference between 2nd or 3rd. Well except that Dance has McGhee and Youtsey Thursday (yuk for him). Jimmy has an opportunity to get the Gasica monkey off his back and gain confidence in the process. Zain and Nolf yahn, should have great opportunity for bounds Thursday.

Joseph vs. Stanford loss round one, a little payback on the menu, Hall gets Epperly in quarters should be an interesting match. Bo should have some nice bonus thursday and an interesting Friday with Dudkey and Brooks.

Love Cutchs seed and quarter match is also intriguing. To the semis? The worst bracket is Nick. A tough quarter thenSnyder. Bonus points possibilities in wrestle backs, other thoughts?
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Great thoughts. I see it the same for PSU.

Before Epperly gets to quarters vs Hall, he has Taylor Lejun in 2nd round - not a layup.

I like PSU bonus potential.
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Also should be noted that the Pokes got a plethora of 5/8/9 seeds - and will have their paths blocked by:
Gilman (quarters)
Nolf (semis)
IMar (quarters)
Dean (semis)
And Heil has a brutal path for a 1 seed.


As stated several times, for the Bucks
NATO has a brutal path
Pletcher has 2nd Rd Ashnault
Micah vs Sorenson quarters
Myles vs Brooks quarters
BoJo vs Meyer/Preisch quarters
 
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Didn't Sleigh beat Cutch last year. I think between Sleigh/Haught is a good matchup. Cutch needs to watch out for Mattiace. What do you think about a Cutch/Haught matchup?
 
Unfortunately, I think we have to live with Heil being penciled in the finals. He never wins pretty, but he never loses. That being said, I think the team race is over by then.
 
1st round match-ups. Flo listed a few tough one's out there. Anyone care to throw out the first true upset? top 4 seed losing in the first round? I'll take Peters beating Cruz.
 
I did a real quick count on points by seed that included Advancement points and placement points. Okie State with around a 4 point advantage with PSU 2nd OSU 3rd about 9 behind PSU. This assumed no bonus points, unseeded score 0 and everyone finishes at their seed. I'm sure a detailed one will be out in a day or too, just don't have the time right now.

Penn State and OSU have higher bonus guys at the top, but having 10 wrestlers able to garner bonus helps also.
 
a_mshaffer said:
1st round match-ups. Flo listed a few tough one's out there. Anyone care to throw out the first true upset? top 4 seed losing in the first round? I'll take Peters beating Cruz.
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I'll definitely agree on that one, I've also got Cimato over Thomsen, Schofstall over Amine, Gravina over Brooks, Harner over Studebaker, Wilcke over Sleigh, Larson over Solomon, and Burcher over Valencia :D
 
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NYWRESTLER94 said:
I'll definitely agree on that one, I've also got Cimato over Thomsen, Schofstall over Amine, Gravina over Brooks, Harner over Studebaker, Wilcke over Sleigh, Larson over Solomon, and Burcher over Valencia :D
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No way on Wilke over Sleigh. Also, if JImmy solves Gasca, his path is better in wrestle backs. If he loses to Gasca, it might be two and out.
 
Lyco1990 said:
Trying to start a serious thread with no BS. I personally love the challenge of our brackets. Suriono bracket no big difference between 2nd or 3rd. Well except that Dance has McGhee and Youtsey Thursday (yuk for him). Jimmy has an opportunity to get the Gasica monkey off his back and gain confidence in the process. Zain and Nolf yahn, should have great opportunity for bounds Thursday.

Joseph vs. Stanford loss round one, a little payback on the menu, Hall gets Epperly in quarters should be an interesting match. Bo should have some nice bonus thursday and an interesting Friday with Dudkey and Brooks.

Love Cutchs seed and quarter match is also intriguing. To the semis? The worst bracket is Nick. A tough quarter thenSnyder. Bonus points possibilities in wrestle backs, other thoughts?
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I really think Jimmy will beat Gasca...He has been working with Frank M....He will be watching tape and Frank and Coaches will have him ready to podium....Last shot....
 
Again, if you want to "watch tape", WATCH THE TAPE OF GASCA VS ASHNAULT.

Ashnault forced Gasca to actually wrestle, instead of counter. Don't shoot in the first period, go into the third tied at 1, and wear him down, then finish when he is tired and beat him.

That's basically how Jimmy beat him last year, although it was 5-4 or 6-5 or something like that.
 
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diggerpup said:
Great thoughts. I see it the same for PSU.

Before Epperly gets to quarters vs Hall, he has Taylor Lejun in 2nd round - not a layup.

I like PSU bonus potential.
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Also should be noted that the Pokes got a plethora of 5/8/9 seeds - and will have their paths blocked by:
Gilman (quarters)
Nolf (semis)
IMar (quarters)
Dean (semis)
And Heil has a brutal path for a 1 seed.


As stated several times, for the Bucks
NATO has a brutal path
Pletcher has 2nd Rd Ashnault
Micah vs Sorenson quarters
Myles vs Brooks quarters
BoJo vs Meyer/Preisch quarters
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Boy, so happy about others hard paths... while only mentioning one PSU wrestler-HATER! (sorry, my little funny face thingy wont work):mad:;);):):p:D there, I figured it out...
 
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CowboyUp61 said:
Boy, so happy about others hard paths... while only mentioning one PSU wrestler-HATER! (sorry, my little funny face thingy wont work)
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it's the human condition to see the negative at first blush. Things will settle down. SHould be a great tournament. It's up in the air.
 
CowboyUp61 said:
I love it-I hope it ends up 115-114-113 for the top 3 teams, just for the excitement. Of course, I hope we are on top-but I won't cry about it if not.
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And I hope that you whoop the 3rd place team like nobody's business. :) I also won't cry over the results, but I'll be sure to cuss and scream and drink.
 
dsites52 said:
And I hope that you whoop the 3rd place team like nobody's business. :) I also won't cry over the results, but I'll be sure to cuss and scream and drink.
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despite what my wife, kids, all the kids I have coached, and most local fans think, I am rather calm watching wrestling these last few years. And the cardiologist says no drinking. So I just get my enjoyment out of watching people with more talent than I ever had do what they do!
 
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CowboyUp61 said:
despite what my wife, kids, all the kids I have coached, and most local fans think, I am rather calm watching wrestling these last few years. And the cardiologist says no drinking. So I just get my enjoyment out of watching people with more talent than I ever had do what they do!
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I have to say when Gwiz beat Nelson I was surprised, as was half the neighborhood, that I didn't have a heart attack.
 
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21Guns said:
No way on Wilke over Sleigh. Also, if JImmy solves Gasca, his path is better in wrestle backs. If he loses to Gasca, it might be two and out.
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Hate to say this but I agree 100 % I think jimmy AA's if he just wins the first match.
 
No that is McCutheon strategy. Have you seen any matches? Jimmy don't shoot is not a winning game plan historically. Just curious, did you ever wrestle?
 
Clarion167 said:
No that is McCutheon strategy. Have you seen any matches? Jimmy don't shoot is not a winning game plan historically. Just curious, did you ever wrestle?
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Yes I did. And he doesn't finish well in the first period. Shooting in the first just gives Gasca a two, or 4 point advantage that he'll need to make up in the third. Wear him down and finish him when 2 points will win it for him.
 
I was looking at brackets and feel 165 and 174 are pretty deep. Just a thought on the top seeds. Last year at 157 the only guy that could beat Imar was Nolf .This year I feel Imar could get caught by a couple of wrestlers. Messa almost got him in trouble 2 times. Hopefully some hits a big move against him. At 174 Valancia is good but let's see how he performs in this environment with numerous tough matches . Big difference in Big 10 and PAC 12.
 
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Lyco1990 said:
Trying to start a serious thread with no BS. I personally love the challenge of our brackets. Suriono bracket no big difference between 2nd or 3rd. Well except that Dance has McGhee and Youtsey Thursday (yuk for him). Jimmy has an opportunity to get the Gasica monkey off his back and gain confidence in the process. Zain and Nolf yahn, should have great opportunity for bounds Thursday.

Joseph vs. Stanford loss round one, a little payback on the menu, Hall gets Epperly in quarters should be an interesting match. Bo should have some nice bonus thursday and an interesting Friday with Dudkey and Brooks.

Love Cutchs seed and quarter match is also intriguing. To the semis? The worst bracket is Nick. A tough quarter thenSnyder. Bonus points possibilities in wrestle backs, other thoughts?
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If Dance is truly deserving of the #2 seed, he should handle both Youtsey and McGhee. If Suriano was healthy and seeded #2, I really wouldn't be sweating either. Of course this is the national tournament where there are no pushovers . Anything can happen.
 
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If Dance is truly deserving of the #2 seed, he should handle both Youtsey and McGhee. If Suriano was healthy and seeded #2, I really wouldn't be sweating either. Of course this is the national tournament where there are no pushovers . Anything can happen.
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Dance was set up nicely last year and that didnt work out for him. Will this year be differently?
 
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Unfortunately, I think we have to live with Heil being penciled in the finals. He never wins pretty, but he never loses. That being said, I think the team race is over by then.
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Heil is a tough son of a gun, but I am looking hard at Ashnault. Of course Ashnault has to get past the Princeton kid first.
I agree on the team race. It will be over Friday night.
The battle for 2nd and 3rd should be pretty tight though.
 
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nitlion6 said:
Heil is a tough son of a gun, but I am looking hard at Ashnault. Of course Ashnault has to get past the Princeton kid first.
I agree on the team race. It will be over Friday night.
The battle for 2nd and 3rd should be pretty tight though.
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No doubt, Heil has to go through some buzzsaws, but at this point, I can't pick against him. As good as Ashnault can look, I don't trust him to do Penn State any favors by knocking off Heil.
 
dsites52 said:
No doubt, Heil has to go through some buzzsaws, but at this point, I can't pick against him. As good as Ashnault can look, I don't trust him to do Penn State any favors by knocking off Heil.
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It will come down to whether or not Ashnault can finish a shot or two.
 
21Guns said:
Yes I did. And he doesn't finish well in the first period. Shooting in the first just gives Gasca a two, or 4 point advantage that he'll need to make up in the third. Wear him down and finish him when 2 points will win it for him.
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In dual meets this year, Jimmy's TDs (for - against) by period:

1st
10-11
2nd
11-1
3rd
16-0
 
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So the stats prove it: He is best in the third.
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Not quite. They prove that he's had more success in the 3rd period than he's had in the 1st period.

As for why, that's impossible to answer, and the dynamics of each match are different. It could be that his actions in the 1st quarter, including shooting, wear out his opponent, and he capitalizes on that in the 3rd period. Your earlier posts advocate that Jimmy not shoot in the 1st period against Gasca. Perhaps that would work, or perhaps it would not wear out Gasca.
 
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