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NCAA Wanted Alabama and Winner of OSU-Mich in Championship Game

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from the beginning of the season. Apparently, they stopped just short of rationalizing a Michigan team in the playoffs as well as OSU but they sure as hell tried damn hard.

All that can be said is that, at best, they have a broken system. One could probably argue that there is a very corrupt system in place. Leaving PSU out of mix - I don't know if it's a spill over from Sandusky situation or just the love fest with those other teams.

In reality - as much as I love this PSU team, I don't think we'd match up well against Alabama. I'm very confident that we could beat the other 3 teams in the playoff as well as a rematch with Michigan. In all actuality, the Rose Bowl with a rematch against a good, but beatable USC team is probably better in the long run but to have the opportunity to go to playoffs denied due to politics and/or corruption is unthinkable. Then, you throw that piece of shit Delaney and the Big assholes into the fray and it's sickening.

Unfortunately, but hopefully, at the expense of yet another PSU team - steps will be taken to improve the system and process so another conference champion does not get denied a place in playoffs.

I only wish Bama drew OSU first so they could demolish them and keep them out of championship game. Although, the way OSU has been playing, there's a good chance they won't make it anyhow. They are not playing the best football in the conference and, actually, not even playing that well. They are too one dimensional on offense.
 
from the beginning of the season. Apparently, they stopped just short of rationalizing a Michigan team in the playoffs as well as OSU but they sure as hell tried damn hard.

All that can be said is that, at best, they have a broken system. One could probably argue that there is a very corrupt system in place. Leaving PSU out of mix - I don't know if it's a spill over from Sandusky situation or just the love fest with those other teams.

In reality - as much as I love this PSU team, I don't think we'd match up well against Alabama. I'm very confident that we could beat the other 3 teams in the playoff as well as a rematch with Michigan. In all actuality, the Rose Bowl with a rematch against a good, but beatable USC team is probably better in the long run but to have the opportunity to go to playoffs denied due to politics and/or corruption is unthinkable. Then, you throw that piece of shit Delaney and the Big assholes into the fray and it's sickening.

Unfortunately, but hopefully, at the expense of yet another PSU team - steps will be taken to improve the system and process so another conference champion does not get denied a place in playoffs.

I only wish Bama drew OSU first so they could demolish them and keep them out of championship game. Although, the way OSU has been playing, there's a good chance they won't make it anyhow. They are not playing the best football in the conference and, actually, not even playing that well. They are too one dimensional on offense.
Here's the kicker. I wholeheartedly believe that had Washington or Clemson lost their Conference Champ. Games, Michigan would have been put in that 4th slot. They would have said "how can a team that lost 49 - 10 head to head be ranked above the team that beat them so badly". Plus that razor-thin loss to Ohio State.
 
They don't ever say that PSU beat the two teams that RECENTLY beat Michigan and one of those wins (Iowa) was a thrashing the week before they beat Michigan. In my eyes that offsets the earlier pummeling by Michigan when we were depleted from injuries and didn't have offense yet established.
 
Here's the kicker. I wholeheartedly believe that had Washington or Clemson lost their Conference Champ. Games, Michigan would have been put in that 4th slot. They would have said "how can a team that lost 49 - 10 head to head be ranked above the team that beat them so badly". Plus that razor-thin loss to Ohio State.
Don't you remember? Michigan didn't have a razor-thin loss to OSU......it was actually labeled as a "tie" by some of the talking heads at ESPN. That's how corrupt it has all become.....bending over backwards to re-define Michigan's OT loss as a tie. In that case, Wisconsin had a "tie" in their OT loss to OSU...and Nebraska had a "tie" in their OT loss to Wisconsin...etc. etc. But that "tie" label only counts when considering Michigan.
 
Anyone who doesn't see the corruption is blind to it there's no justification otherwise.
 
Anyone who doesn't see the corruption is blind to it there's no justification otherwise.


Why corruption? Who benefits from it? PSU, Wisconsin, and Michigan get the same amount of money as Ohio State...and so do Illinois and even lowly Rutgres. Is there bias, sure, but that's always going to be the case when you have human selectors, and it's not the same as corruption. The only way to overcome bias is to create visible separation between your team and the rest of the field. The only team that had that when all was said and done was Alabama. The rest, and that includes Oklahoma and Michigan as well as PSU, like it or not, are subject to the vagaries of human deficiency.

As far as corruption goes, I truly doubt that someone, at the beginning of the season, whispered in Saban's ear, "Nick, the fix is in, so it's okay for you to start a true freshman QB."
 
Only problem with your theory is that the NCAA nothing to do with the college football playoff or the selection of participating teams. I know, minor detail.
Are you joking??? You obviously have no clue how the NCAA racketeering machine works.
 
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Are you joking??? You obviously have no clue how the NCAA racketeering machine works.

So how does it work? You think someone like Condoleezza Rice worked her whole career and built up a great reputation so that she could take a payout under the table from the NCAA to take the teams that they want? Or is there some sort of osmosis where she is able to read their minds as to what they want? I'm curious as to how this racketeering machine does work with those 12 committee members, so hopefully someone can give me the details.
 
So how does it work? You think someone like Condoleezza Rice worked her whole career and built up a great reputation so that she could take a payout under the table from the NCAA to take the teams that they want? Or is there some sort of osmosis where she is able to read their minds as to what they want? I'm curious as to how this racketeering machine does work with those 12 committee members, so hopefully someone can give me the details.
Keeping the job requires compliance.
 
With ND taking the year off (and lets face it 10-2 ND gets into the playoffs), everyone but the BIG had one, lone alpha team this year. The marketing/PR/advertising for this playoff slowly morphed away from pick the best to challenge Bama/SEC to "get two teams from the same conference (i.e., OSU and UM) in, won't that be a twist!" It was an unapologetic attempt to recreate that famous movie: "Same thing you just saw, Part II: money grab!" with Jimmy and Urbs in the lead roles. Washington and PSU screwed it up by winning the conference games. Committee decides to shut Pac12 up and let them get clobbered by Bama; let Clemson/OSU winner play for second best team in country. Unfair, but it sells tickets.
 
I completely agree that they want a Bama v OSU or UM match up. IMO, this only highlights how corrupt the game of college football is. I say corrupt in that it has never really been about selecting a true champion but rather marketing brands and making profits.
Do you really think that Washington would get higher ratings and bring in more money than Penn State?
IMO Abandoning the objective criteria for selecting playoff teams was a mistake and furthermore the system should be re examined and expanded to ultimately 8 teams. 5 conf shamps and 3 at large selected by objective criteria (computer).

The mere presence of humans in the process makes it susceptible to undue influence. Taint.
Do you know what the average of the BCS computers would have selected? The same four teams.
 
Are you joking??? You obviously have no clue how the NCAA racketeering machine works.
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Sure wish it would go back to the old days, when we wined and dined and charmed the bowl representatives into "being fair" and inviting us to a bowl instead of some other school. It was so objective back then. Joe never twisted any arms to get us a bid to a specific bowl. :rolleyes:

Shit happens. I wish we had gotten into the playoffs because you never know what could happen. Although I'm still not 100% convinced the team is ready, it would be nice to be in and get the opportunity.

That said... as much as we can all make a case why we should have been selected, there were probably 6, maybe 7, teams that could say the same thing, if you looked at it objectively. Different arguments, but valid nonetheless. Everyone had different arguments and combinations of data points to make their case. It wasn't all apples to apples.
 
Yes, of course I do....never the less, we are talking about the appearance of a conflict. They should ultimately be working toward a playoff system that requires no human interaction and thus an appearance of bias.
Here is a collection 92 different rankings most of which are computers. Guess who they pick as the top 4 teams? 1. Alabama 2. Ohio State 3. Clemson 4. Washington. Penn State was 5th. No matter what computer system you devise Penn State fans will still claim it corrupt when they don't get the results they want. The systems is not perfect but it what we have. I rather go 8 teams but that won't happen for awhile.

http://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm
 
Only problem with your theory is that the NCAA nothing to do with the college football playoff or the selection of participating teams. I know, minor detail.
True, but...

I'd like to see the wikileaks emails between all the various evil-doers leading up to the committee's decision.
 
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