You should check out "The Marble Man" by Thomas E. Connelly, published in 1978, and "Lee Considered" by Alan T. Nolan, published in 1991. Connelly's book is the better one. The article you posted from The Atlantic is based on fairly old research.Me neither.
Which apparently is a controversial opinion to have.
Apparently we are supposed to love the General Lee.
To me, the Dodge Challenger was the better looking car.![]()
The lines of a Charger just never appealed to me, I prefer the GTO
Never had a problem with the old Charger, but I always preferred the lines of the Challenger more. Plus if you got one with the 440 Magnum it really moved!![]()
The lines of a Charger just never appealed to me, I prefer the GTO
She was the only part of this show worthwhile. This show was geared towards redknecks and people with the IQ's of a garden plant.On the other hand......
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She was the only part of this show worthwhile. This show was geared towards redknecks and people with the IQ's of a garden plant.
You're right. The historical record is what it is. What's next? People wanting to alter the original U.S. Constitution and erase all references to slavery and slaves counting as 3/5 of a person? It's like the axiom goes, "Those who forget history tend to repeat it", or something like that.I'll just note that there are attempts to erase history going on. I can't say that this is one of them--one has to draw one's own conclusions. But there are folks that are petitioning to have references to racist deed restrictions erased from old deed records. So far, county recorders have refused to do this, noting that they cannot change the historical record (note that this has nothing to do with the current validity of such restrictions--that's long since been removed). Another one was that at one point, the German government was airbrushing swastikas out of their archival photos in their national archives.
Bigoted? Against who? Rednecks who like to watch, show after show, a souped up car driven recklessly over the same unpaved back roads? A real statement for responsible driving. Maybe judgemental but not bigoted.pretty bigoted statement, really. What TV, at that time, was geared towards smart people? I dream of Genie (with an astronaut and all), Three's Company (city people in CA), LaVerne and Shirley, Chips, The Jeffersons, Charlies Angels....???
pretty bigoted statement, really. What TV, at that time, was geared towards smart people? I dream of Genie (with an astronaut and all), Three's Company (city people in CA), LaVerne and Shirley, Chips, The Jeffersons, Charlies Angels....???
Bigoted? Against who? Rednecks who like to watch, show after show, a souped up car driven recklessly over the same unpaved back roads? A real statement for responsible driving. Maybe judgemental but not bigoted.
I dream of Jeannie was at least 8 years before this show. But, I get your point.
Surprisingly I think "All in the Family" was a much more intelligent and thought provoking show than it appeared to be on the surface.
As a young kid who hadn't yet hit puberty I loved watching I Dream of Jeannie. At that young age I didn't get the humor or really understand what was going on. All I knew was I like watching the show even if I didn't yet understand why. I few years later I got it.pretty bigoted statement, really. What TV, at that time, was geared towards smart people? I dream of Genie (with an astronaut and all), Three's Company (city people in CA), LaVerne and Shirley, Chips, The Jeffersons, Charlies Angels....???
If you had Daisy Dukes in the back seat of the General Lee, I think you'd have loved this car!![]()
The lines of a Charger just never appealed to me, I prefer the GTO
well....yeahIf you had Daisy Dukes in the back seat of the General Lee, I think you'd have loved this car!
The following picture is pretty close to what my first car looked like when new.
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My dad sold it, running, with 173K on it (and likely more as the odometer was broken during part of the time we owned it).
Not sure we had that in our version. But it did have a 350 engine and a four-barreled carburetor. Good thing gas was under a dollar in those days.We had one in the mid 60's. My favorite thing about the car? The speaker built into the rear back seat.
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Is that a '68 or a '69? My dad bought (brand new) a '68 Impala, dark maroon with black interior. 350 engine. Sharp, sharp car. IIRC the sticker was right around three grand.Not sure we had that in our version. But it did have a 350 engine and a four-barreled carburetor. Good thing gas was under a dollar in those days.
In classic US cars I am a Chevy guy. For me it doesn't get better than:
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Mine was a 1969--but the pic is not my actual car... But the pic is of a 1969. The 68 was slightly different in the lights, as I recall 40+ years later.Is that a '68 or a '69? My dad bought (brand new) a '68 Impala, dark maroon with black interior. 350 engine. Sharp, sharp car. IIRC the sticker was right around three grand.
I agree with that sentiment. Airbrushing swastikas out of old photos. LOL.You're right. The historical record is what it is. What's next? People wanting to alter the original U.S. Constitution and erase all references to slavery and slaves counting as 3/5 of a person? It's like the axiom goes, "Those who forget history tend to repeat it", or something like that.
I agree with that sentiment. Airbrushing swastikas out of old photos. LOL.
But a distinction can certainly be drawn between acknowledging historical events or figures and celebrating them. Reasonable people can differ because the distinction is sometimes a bit hazy. I think the recent spate of statue removals in New Orleans shows that city treating statues as celebrating events and people who perhaps should no longer be celebrated in the same way..
Nice cars - good looking. The Biscayne was the no-frills, entry level model with a 6-cyl and the three-on-the-tree. The Bel Air was a little nicer, more chrome trim, automatic and an 8 was standard. The Impala was the top full-size Chevy with nice available options.Great thread. Here is what I learned to drive in, complete with its three speed manual on the column transmission. Chevy Biscayne:
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Fair and reasonable. I've got no problem with NoLa taking out the statues of confederate leaders. To me, that is a public thing that is tacitly endorsed by the govt. I don't feel like the confederate flag is an endorsement of slavery though. I feel like it is a sign of unity for the SE USA. Of course, times change and that sign is now considered bad. I wouldn't use it or endorse the using of it. However, I understand someone from Tenn or AL using it as a sign that they don't want the taxation and government over reach in the NE to take over that of the SE. You can agree or disagree, but I don't have a problem with people in the SE telling people to keep their hands off.
But back to the Dukes of Hazzard, I don't think I ever heard a single word of negativity toward someone flying the confederate flag in that era. Perhaps I am wrong here, but I don't recall it.
Very possible...no problem with that.Flying the confederate flag was not well received in my family.
I think the "negativity" was there its just you may not have heard about.
Why would anyone want to celebrate "The Great Ass-Kicking of 1865"?Flying the confederate flag was not well received in my family.
I think the "negativity" was there its just you may not have heard about.
I just think of Gettysburg.... There are memorials for all who fought. It's a good history lesson.I agree with that sentiment. Airbrushing swastikas out of old photos. LOL.
But a distinction can certainly be drawn between acknowledging historical events or figures and celebrating them. Reasonable people can differ because the distinction is sometimes a bit hazy. I think the recent spate of statue removals in New Orleans shows that city treating statues as celebrating events and people who perhaps should no longer be celebrated in the same way..
For me, the Challenger and Chevelle SS were like 1 and 1a of favorite cars growing up. Your picture looks like a 67 (?) while I liked the body style of the 70 a little better.In classic US cars I am a Chevy guy. For me it doesn't get better than:
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I just think of Gettysburg.... There are memorials for all who fought. It's a good history lesson.
With NOLA, it's hard to say. I think *part* of it is an attempt to erase history. Some of the events commemorated, OTOH, are not worthy of remembering. At least not publicly.
But any statue of any person is by definition of an imperfect person with flaws. If you remove anything that might offend anyone, you end up with the society depicted in LeGuin's Lathe of Heaven. Or a society were no one says anything of consequence lest they give offense.