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never liked General Lee

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The lines of a Charger just never appealed to me, I prefer the GTO
 
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Me neither.

Which apparently is a controversial opinion to have.
Apparently we are supposed to love the General Lee.
 
Me neither.

Which apparently is a controversial opinion to have.
Apparently we are supposed to love the General Lee.
You should check out "The Marble Man" by Thomas E. Connelly, published in 1978, and "Lee Considered" by Alan T. Nolan, published in 1991. Connelly's book is the better one. The article you posted from The Atlantic is based on fairly old research.
 
I'll just note that there are attempts to erase history going on. I can't say that this is one of them--one has to draw one's own conclusions. But there are folks that are petitioning to have references to racist deed restrictions erased from old deed records. So far, county recorders have refused to do this, noting that they cannot change the historical record (note that this has nothing to do with the current validity of such restrictions--that's long since been removed). Another one was that at one point, the German government was airbrushing swastikas out of their archival photos in their national archives.
 
She was the only part of this show worthwhile. This show was geared towards redknecks and people with the IQ's of a garden plant.

pretty bigoted statement, really. What TV, at that time, was geared towards smart people? I dream of Genie (with an astronaut and all), Three's Company (city people in CA), LaVerne and Shirley, Chips, The Jeffersons, Charlies Angels....???
 
I'll just note that there are attempts to erase history going on. I can't say that this is one of them--one has to draw one's own conclusions. But there are folks that are petitioning to have references to racist deed restrictions erased from old deed records. So far, county recorders have refused to do this, noting that they cannot change the historical record (note that this has nothing to do with the current validity of such restrictions--that's long since been removed). Another one was that at one point, the German government was airbrushing swastikas out of their archival photos in their national archives.
You're right. The historical record is what it is. What's next? People wanting to alter the original U.S. Constitution and erase all references to slavery and slaves counting as 3/5 of a person? It's like the axiom goes, "Those who forget history tend to repeat it", or something like that.
 
pretty bigoted statement, really. What TV, at that time, was geared towards smart people? I dream of Genie (with an astronaut and all), Three's Company (city people in CA), LaVerne and Shirley, Chips, The Jeffersons, Charlies Angels....???
Bigoted? Against who? Rednecks who like to watch, show after show, a souped up car driven recklessly over the same unpaved back roads? A real statement for responsible driving. Maybe judgemental but not bigoted.
 
pretty bigoted statement, really. What TV, at that time, was geared towards smart people? I dream of Genie (with an astronaut and all), Three's Company (city people in CA), LaVerne and Shirley, Chips, The Jeffersons, Charlies Angels....???

I dream of Jeannie was at least 8 years before this show. But, I get your point.

Surprisingly I think "All in the Family" was a much more intelligent and thought provoking show than it appeared to be on the surface.
 
Bigoted? Against who? Rednecks who like to watch, show after show, a souped up car driven recklessly over the same unpaved back roads? A real statement for responsible driving. Maybe judgemental but not bigoted.

Maybe they should have watched the A-Team instead?
 
I dream of Jeannie was at least 8 years before this show. But, I get your point.

Surprisingly I think "All in the Family" was a much more intelligent and thought provoking show than it appeared to be on the surface.

Totally agree....one of my all time favorites. But since you called me out on I dream of Genie, All in the family ended in 79, while Dukes started in 79.
 
pretty bigoted statement, really. What TV, at that time, was geared towards smart people? I dream of Genie (with an astronaut and all), Three's Company (city people in CA), LaVerne and Shirley, Chips, The Jeffersons, Charlies Angels....???
As a young kid who hadn't yet hit puberty I loved watching I Dream of Jeannie. At that young age I didn't get the humor or really understand what was going on. All I knew was I like watching the show even if I didn't yet understand why. I few years later I got it.

At the time a bare navel on television caused quite an uproar. My how times have changed.
 
The greatest era of cars. Now - they weren't great cars. Excellent power trains, but the handling was akin to a cow sliding on ice, brakes were crappy, bias-ply tires pretty primitive. The life expectancy of the sheet metal could be measured in months.

BUT - for design and looks, these cars were just stunning as opposed to the double-ugly wedges out there now.
 
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One of my (much) older brother's friends had a Super Bee. Being a young lad at the time I was pretty impressed when he would pull it into our driveway.

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The following picture is pretty close to what my first car looked like when new.
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My dad sold it, running, with 173K on it (and likely more as the odometer was broken during part of the time we owned it).
 
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The following picture is pretty close to what my first car looked like when new.
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My dad sold it, running, with 173K on it (and likely more as the odometer was broken during part of the time we owned it).

We had one in the mid 60's. My favorite thing about the car? The speaker built into the rear back seat.
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We had one in the mid 60's. My favorite thing about the car? The speaker built into the rear back seat.
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Not sure we had that in our version. But it did have a 350 engine and a four-barreled carburetor. Good thing gas was under a dollar in those days.
 
Not sure we had that in our version. But it did have a 350 engine and a four-barreled carburetor. Good thing gas was under a dollar in those days.
Is that a '68 or a '69? My dad bought (brand new) a '68 Impala, dark maroon with black interior. 350 engine. Sharp, sharp car. IIRC the sticker was right around three grand.
 
Is that a '68 or a '69? My dad bought (brand new) a '68 Impala, dark maroon with black interior. 350 engine. Sharp, sharp car. IIRC the sticker was right around three grand.
Mine was a 1969--but the pic is not my actual car... But the pic is of a 1969. The 68 was slightly different in the lights, as I recall 40+ years later.
 
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Great thread. Here is what I learned to drive in, complete with its three speed manual on the column transmission. Chevy Biscayne:

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You're right. The historical record is what it is. What's next? People wanting to alter the original U.S. Constitution and erase all references to slavery and slaves counting as 3/5 of a person? It's like the axiom goes, "Those who forget history tend to repeat it", or something like that.
I agree with that sentiment. Airbrushing swastikas out of old photos. LOL.

But a distinction can certainly be drawn between acknowledging historical events or figures and celebrating them. Reasonable people can differ because the distinction is sometimes a bit hazy. I think the recent spate of statue removals in New Orleans shows that city treating statues as celebrating events and people who perhaps should no longer be celebrated in the same way..
 
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I agree with that sentiment. Airbrushing swastikas out of old photos. LOL.

But a distinction can certainly be drawn between acknowledging historical events or figures and celebrating them. Reasonable people can differ because the distinction is sometimes a bit hazy. I think the recent spate of statue removals in New Orleans shows that city treating statues as celebrating events and people who perhaps should no longer be celebrated in the same way..

Fair and reasonable. I've got no problem with NoLa taking out the statues of confederate leaders. To me, that is a public thing that is tacitly endorsed by the govt. I don't feel like the confederate flag is an endorsement of slavery though. I feel like it is a sign of unity for the SE USA. Of course, times change and that sign is now considered bad. I wouldn't use it or endorse the using of it. However, I understand someone from Tenn or AL using it as a sign that they don't want the taxation and government over reach in the NE to take over that of the SE. You can agree or disagree, but I don't have a problem with people in the SE telling people to keep their hands off.

But back to the Dukes of Hazzard, I don't think I ever heard a single word of negativity toward someone flying the confederate flag in that era. Perhaps I am wrong here, but I don't recall it.
 
Great thread. Here is what I learned to drive in, complete with its three speed manual on the column transmission. Chevy Biscayne:

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Nice cars - good looking. The Biscayne was the no-frills, entry level model with a 6-cyl and the three-on-the-tree. The Bel Air was a little nicer, more chrome trim, automatic and an 8 was standard. The Impala was the top full-size Chevy with nice available options.

Basically the same automobile at three price points to appeal to three buyer demographics.

I'm driving an F-150 now as my company truck and I like it, but I'm a Chevy guy. Big mistake I made was not buying the last year of the Impala SS. Of course they discontinued it. The Camaro SS is very, very sharp but I'd prefer more of a stealth rocket, plus the Camaro is kind of small for me.
 
Fair and reasonable. I've got no problem with NoLa taking out the statues of confederate leaders. To me, that is a public thing that is tacitly endorsed by the govt. I don't feel like the confederate flag is an endorsement of slavery though. I feel like it is a sign of unity for the SE USA. Of course, times change and that sign is now considered bad. I wouldn't use it or endorse the using of it. However, I understand someone from Tenn or AL using it as a sign that they don't want the taxation and government over reach in the NE to take over that of the SE. You can agree or disagree, but I don't have a problem with people in the SE telling people to keep their hands off.

But back to the Dukes of Hazzard, I don't think I ever heard a single word of negativity toward someone flying the confederate flag in that era. Perhaps I am wrong here, but I don't recall it.

Flying the confederate flag was not well received in my family.
I think the "negativity" was there its just you may not have heard about.
 
Flying the confederate flag was not well received in my family.
I think the "negativity" was there its just you may not have heard about.
Very possible...no problem with that.
 
I agree with that sentiment. Airbrushing swastikas out of old photos. LOL.

But a distinction can certainly be drawn between acknowledging historical events or figures and celebrating them. Reasonable people can differ because the distinction is sometimes a bit hazy. I think the recent spate of statue removals in New Orleans shows that city treating statues as celebrating events and people who perhaps should no longer be celebrated in the same way..
I just think of Gettysburg.... There are memorials for all who fought. It's a good history lesson.

With NOLA, it's hard to say. I think *part* of it is an attempt to erase history. Some of the events commemorated, OTOH, are not worthy of remembering. At least not publicly.

But any statue of any person is by definition of an imperfect person with flaws. If you remove anything that might offend anyone, you end up with the society depicted in LeGuin's Lathe of Heaven. Or a society were no one says anything of consequence lest they give offense.
 
I just think of Gettysburg.... There are memorials for all who fought. It's a good history lesson.

With NOLA, it's hard to say. I think *part* of it is an attempt to erase history. Some of the events commemorated, OTOH, are not worthy of remembering. At least not publicly.

But any statue of any person is by definition of an imperfect person with flaws. If you remove anything that might offend anyone, you end up with the society depicted in LeGuin's Lathe of Heaven. Or a society were no one says anything of consequence lest they give offense.

+100.
For my family we had 3 relatives that died at Gettysburg well 2 during the battle the third died on the way home. Family lore has it that he sat down under an
Apple tree in Bakersville, PA and died.
So thats why my mom and dad and especially Grandparents were not happy when they saw one flying, especially in PA.
 
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