Is the Cael Sanderson of college football.
Well, almost.
Well, almost.
Nick Saban
- Thread starter Vic Vaselino
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Not even close, pal.
Let's review:
2009: Alabama wins the national title because Colt McCoy gets hurt. Texas almost makes it interesting anyway. I'm also adamant that that fluky and fun Iowa team, with its incredible front 7, beats Alabama if Stanzi doesn't get hurt.
2011: Alabama wins the national title because the moronic voters put them in when Okie State deserved to be in.
2012: Alabama wins the national title because Ohio State foolishly pushed off their bowl ban from 2011 to 2012.
2015: fair and square
2017: Alabama wins the national title because the system screwed UCF in spite of the fact that the old computer formulas would have put UCF in.
2020: Covid year
Alabama has won, at most, 1 national title that was really fair and square and free of massive caveats and huge good luck. And this is all mostly with a system - the 4 team playoff system - and a landscape that hugely favors bluebloods like Alabama. For a decade, we've had the most pro-blueblood landscape since at least the 70s and I think longer than that.
Nick Saban is the luckiest coach in college football history. Woody Hayes was far smarter as a tactician and student of the game; Tom Osborne was a better motivator AND a better cheater; and Joe Paterno, LOL, don't even get me started.
I'll take Bill Snyder over Saban too. I'd probably even take Hayden Fry since Saban never had to do anything like what Fry did, which is resurrect 3 moribund programs - Saban never had to build a program from the ground up, let alone build one like Fry did at Iowa (which had been junk for 2 decades only for the Stache to have it at #1 by 1985).
Cael, like Saban and unlike Paterno, stepped in to a hugely favorable spot (in the sense that PSU finally decided to invest big in wrestling) but still had a lot more work to do and has been more dominant. Also, Cael's never really had a flukishly lucky streak, whereas that's basically all of Saban's history at Bama.
Let's review:
2009: Alabama wins the national title because Colt McCoy gets hurt. Texas almost makes it interesting anyway. I'm also adamant that that fluky and fun Iowa team, with its incredible front 7, beats Alabama if Stanzi doesn't get hurt.
2011: Alabama wins the national title because the moronic voters put them in when Okie State deserved to be in.
2012: Alabama wins the national title because Ohio State foolishly pushed off their bowl ban from 2011 to 2012.
2015: fair and square
2017: Alabama wins the national title because the system screwed UCF in spite of the fact that the old computer formulas would have put UCF in.
2020: Covid year
Alabama has won, at most, 1 national title that was really fair and square and free of massive caveats and huge good luck. And this is all mostly with a system - the 4 team playoff system - and a landscape that hugely favors bluebloods like Alabama. For a decade, we've had the most pro-blueblood landscape since at least the 70s and I think longer than that.
Nick Saban is the luckiest coach in college football history. Woody Hayes was far smarter as a tactician and student of the game; Tom Osborne was a better motivator AND a better cheater; and Joe Paterno, LOL, don't even get me started.
I'll take Bill Snyder over Saban too. I'd probably even take Hayden Fry since Saban never had to do anything like what Fry did, which is resurrect 3 moribund programs - Saban never had to build a program from the ground up, let alone build one like Fry did at Iowa (which had been junk for 2 decades only for the Stache to have it at #1 by 1985).
Cael, like Saban and unlike Paterno, stepped in to a hugely favorable spot (in the sense that PSU finally decided to invest big in wrestling) but still had a lot more work to do and has been more dominant. Also, Cael's never really had a flukishly lucky streak, whereas that's basically all of Saban's history at Bama.
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