No Sex Scandal at Penn State, Just A "Political Hit Job"

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

I doubt they see the inside of a prison over this.

This guy doesn't let simple things like FACTS and REALITY get in the way of his FALSE CLAIMS, like C/S/S being guilty of all The State's Indictments and charges when the corrupt PA OAG went 3-for-27 in regards to counts and charges brought against C/S/S and only won on 3 Misdemeanor Counts after watering them down at the end of a 5-year OAG abortion that cost PA Taxpayers literally billions of dollars in direct and in-direct costs and damage via the ridiculous, completely unnecessary (if they had a strong case) "Prosecutorial Misconduct" and "Malicious Prosecution" techniques that the corrupt OAG used against PSU and the PSU Administrators! Isn't that special that the corrupt PA OAG labels this (3 watered down Misdemeanors while going 0-for-24 on their most serious counts) as "Victory" for the citizens of Pennsylvania??? Again, these corrupt jackals make Ancient Rome and its politicians look like saints and paragons of virtue!!!

Oh yea, and at the end of this abortion - the parties actually responsible for enabling Sandusky, at the direct expense of protecting the children they were mandated to protect, (i.e., DPW/CSS and their direct contractor as well as Licensee TSM) remain unprosecuted and the kid's remain every bit as "at-risk" as before this abortion started!!! Wow, the "People of Pennsylvania" have really come out the winners here.....LMFAO! Where's the barf bucket?!?!

 

[Mixolydian]

Tim and Gary put any goodwill they earned by pleading in jeopardy with their performance at trial.

Keep hoping and praying John. Need to get those miserable bastards behind bars.

 

[no1lion99]

Again...first time offenses...misdemeanors...not sure they will see prison time.

The people I speak to say that they tried to procure a guarantee of no jail time as part of the plea and were rebuked, only getting what the current deal says (i.e. wouldn't oppose house arrest for Tim on medical reasons). Considering how unhappy the state was with their performance I put it at even odds they see jail time.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Keep hoping and praying John. Need to get those miserable bastards behind bars.

Assuming that you believe this is JPS, isn't THIS ARTICLE oh so special relative to the political and State protection of TSM....:

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Board of Trustees members have donated to The Second Mile in past year

Anna Orso
Daily Collegian
Nov 17, 2011

At least seven Penn State Board of Trustees members or their respective companies donated to The Second Mile in 2010, according to the charity’s annual report.

It is not clear when each member of the board were made aware that former assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky was being investigated on reports that he sexually abused boys he met through The Second Mile.

No one from the office of the Board of Trustees responded to repeated requests for comment and declined to provide a statement at its office in Old Main.

A Pennsylvania grand jury began investigating the former coach in January 2009.

Four trustees made donations in 2010 — two donations totaling more than $50,000 each.

J. Lloyd Huck, the retired chairman of the board of pharmaceutical company, Merck, donated more than $50,000. His wife, Dorothy, sits on two of the four Boards of Directors with The Second Mile.

The Board of Trustees recently appointed the current President and CEO of Merck, Kenneth Frazier, as chair of the Special Committee. The committee is a team that will conduct an internal investigation of Penn State and how its employees responded to reports of Sandusky sexually abusing a boy in a locker room.

Frazier is not listed as a 2010 donor to The Second Mile.

Huck is also listed as a member of the Arthur and Evelyn Sandusky Society — meaning he made an estate provision that leaves money to The Second Mile after he dies.

Huck could not be reached after repeated calls for comment.

In addition, Linda Strumpf, a trustee representing business and industry, also donated more than $50,000 to The Second Mile last year, according to the report.

Strumpf also could not be reached after repeated calls for comment.

Quentin Wood, an emeritus trustee, and Paul Silvis, a trustee appointed by the governor, donated between $500 and $999 to The Second Mile in 2010.

Silvis wrote in an email that he and his wife reassess which charities they donate to each year based on “how we perceive they help the community.”

Wood could not be reached after repeated calls for comment.

Three companies associated with members of the Board of Trustees also donated to The Second Mile in 2010.

The PNC Foundation gave between $2,000 and $4,999 in 2010. Trustee Edward Junker is the retired vice chairman of the PNC Bank Corporation.

Junker could not be reached after repeated calls for comment.

Occupational Athletics Inc. also gave between $2,000 and $4,999 in 2010. Trustee David Joyner is a partner and corporate medical director with the company.

Joyner was appointed acting Athletic Director on Wednesday. He could not be reached after repeated calls for comment.

Finally, the United States Steel Corporation donated between $2,000 and $4,999 in 2010.

John Surma, vice chairman of the Board of Trustees is the chairman and CEO of USS. Surma is the trustee who announced the end of Joe Paterno’s career as head football coach and Graham Spanier’s as Penn State President.

Surma could not be reached after repeated calls for comment.

Spanier previously served on the Board of Directors for US Steel Corp. He resigned from this position Tuesday.

Penn State University, as a whole, also donated between $1,000 and $1,999 to the organization last year.

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[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Assuming that you believe this is JPS, isn't THIS ARTICLE oh so special relative to the political and State protection of TSM....:

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Board of Trustees members have donated to The Second Mile in past year

Anna Orso
Daily Collegian
Nov 17, 2011

At least seven Penn State Board of Trustees members or their respective companies donated to The Second Mile in 2010, according to the charity’s annual report.

It is not clear when each member of the board were made aware that former assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky was being investigated on reports that he sexually abused boys he met through The Second Mile.

No one from the office of the Board of Trustees responded to repeated requests for comment and declined to provide a statement at its office in Old Main.

A Pennsylvania grand jury began investigating the former coach in January 2009.

Four trustees made donations in 2010 — two donations totaling more than $50,000 each.

J. Lloyd Huck, the retired chairman of the board of pharmaceutical company, Merck, donated more than $50,000. His wife, Dorothy, sits on two of the four Boards of Directors with The Second Mile.

The Board of Trustees recently appointed the current President and CEO of Merck, Kenneth Frazier, as chair of the Special Committee. The committee is a team that will conduct an internal investigation of Penn State and how its employees responded to reports of Sandusky sexually abusing a boy in a locker room.

Frazier is not listed as a 2010 donor to The Second Mile.

Huck is also listed as a member of the Arthur and Evelyn Sandusky Society — meaning he made an estate provision that leaves money to The Second Mile after he dies.

Huck could not be reached after repeated calls for comment.

In addition, Linda Strumpf, a trustee representing business and industry, also donated more than $50,000 to The Second Mile last year, according to the report.

Strumpf also could not be reached after repeated calls for comment.

Quentin Wood, an emeritus trustee, and Paul Silvis, a trustee appointed by the governor, donated between $500 and $999 to The Second Mile in 2010.

Silvis wrote in an email that he and his wife reassess which charities they donate to each year based on “how we perceive they help the community.”

Wood could not be reached after repeated calls for comment.

Three companies associated with members of the Board of Trustees also donated to The Second Mile in 2010.



The PNC Foundation gave between $2,000 and $4,999 in 2010. Trustee Edward Junker is the retired vice chairman of the PNC Bank Corporation.

Junker could not be reached after repeated calls for comment.

Occupational Athletics Inc. also gave between $2,000 and $4,999 in 2010. Trustee David Joyner is a partner and corporate medical director with the company.

Joyner was appointed acting Athletic Director on Wednesday. He could not be reached after repeated calls for comment.

Finally, the United States Steel Corporation donated between $2,000 and $4,999 in 2010.

John Surma, vice chairman of the Board of Trustees is the chairman and CEO of USS. Surma is the trustee who announced the end of Joe Paterno’s career as head football coach and Graham Spanier’s as Penn State President.

Surma could not be reached after repeated calls for comment.

Spanier previously served on the Board of Directors for US Steel Corp. He resigned from this position Tuesday.

Penn State University, as a whole, also donated between $1,000 and $1,999 to the organization last year.

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Isn't THIS ARTICLE - Funders Flee Youth Charity Started by Sandusky special as well as it identifies long-term major donors that were fleeing support for TSM - listed among the TSM's biggest financial supporters, The Hershey Co. which is majority-owned by the Hershey Trust, a youth-dedicatd NPO/Charity run by LZ until 2011....oh yea, it mentions US Steel and Surma also. Odd how all of these GOP MontCo-to-Hershey Political Junta supporters are listed as the biggest supporters of TSM (equally odd that Chairman of the Board of TSM would be holding Major Political Fund Raisers for Tom Corbutt during his 2009/2010 Gubernatorial Campaign) and the parties who repeated VIOLATED PA CPS Law and are most responsible for enabling Sandusky - TSM/DPW/CYS - just magically avoid prosecution and are "politically shielded". Gee, the coinky-dinks are just endless.....LMFAO!

 

[pandaczar12]

Tim and Gary put any goodwill they earned by pleading in jeopardy with their performance at trial.

Since when is telling the truth a bad thing? They can't help that the truth didn't bolster the AG's case against Spanier. I guess the state would have only been happy if C/S would have perjured themselves on the stand?

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

The people I speak to say that they tried to procure a guarantee of no jail time as part of the plea and were rebuked, only getting what the current deal says (i.e. wouldn't oppose house arrest for Tim on medical reasons). Considering how unhappy the state was with their performance I put it at even odds they see jail time.

Considering how unhappy the proven corrupt PA OAG prosecution is - the one that has already been severely sanctioned for Prosecutorial Misconduct by the court via having double-digit Felony charges thrown out! - Curley and Schultz should get "jail time".....LMFAO!, you can't make up this kind of hypocritical, pompous scumbaggery! You have to go back to Ancient Rome to find politicians and politically-attached corrupt scum who believe the trampling of citizens SACRED CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS is "justice" and fair "due process" and not the Kangeroo Court rigged system of corrupt scumbags that are the biggest criminals in the whole affair.

 

[Mixolydian]

Since when is telling the truth a bad thing? They can't help that the truth didn't bolster the AG's case against Spanier. I guess the state would have only been happy if C/S would have perjured themselves on the stand?

In John Yonchuk's twisted world, instead of telling the truth on the stand and risking pissing off the OAG against your own best interests, instead you should lie to help them with another botched prosecution.

 

[2turgisgrimm]

Considering how unhappy the proven corrupt PA OAG prosecution is - the one that has already been severely sanctioned for Prosecutorial Misconduct by the court via having double-digit Felony charges thrown out! - Curley and Schultz should get "jail time".....LMFAO!, you can't make up this kind of hypocritical, pompous scumbaggery! You have to go back to Ancient Rome to find politicians and politically-attached corrupt scum who believe the trampling of citizens SACRED CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS is "justice" and fair "due process" and not the Kangeroo Court rigged system of corrupt scumbags that are the biggest criminals in the whole affair.

Is JockstrapJailboy still babbling about jail time?

 

[Mixolydian]

Is JockstrapJailboy still babbling about jail time?

He's desperately hoping. Almost as if jail time for CSS will somehow validate his very existence...

 

[2turgisgrimm]

He's desperately hoping. Almost as if jail time for CSS will somehow validate his very existence...

Jockstrap is the one who needs some time in jail for the thing and zipper down.

 

[WeR0206]

In John Yonchuk's twisted world, instead of telling the truth on the stand and risking pissing off the OAG against your own best interests, instead you should lie to help them with another botched prosecution.

He really seems to have gone off the deep end lately. Latching onto the C/S plea deals as if they are the end all be all while completely ignoring the reality of the tainted jury CSS were facing, OAG shenanigans just to bring charges to trial, and all the other charges they beat, including ALL of the 14 felonies they were charged with.

The admins had such a tangential role in this scandal...his focus on them seems bizarre since it does nothing to fix the broken child welfare system he claims to care so much about.

Shouldn't John be pissed at the state for wasting so much time and money (which could habe been used to actually make PA safer for kids) spending millions just to get a few misdemeanors on some at best tangential players?

 

[Mixolydian]

He really seems to have gone off the deep end lately. Latching onto the C/S plea deals as if they are the end all be all while completely ignoring the reality of the tainted jury CSS were facing, OAG shenanigans just to bring charges to trial, and all the other charges they beat, including ALL of the 14 felonies they were charged with.

The admins had such a tangential role in this scandal...his focus on them seems bizarre since it does nothing to fix the broken child welfare system he claims to care so much about.

Shouldn't John be pissed at the state for wasting so much time and money (which could habe been used to actually make PA safer for kids) spending millions just to get a few misdemeanors on some at best tangential players?

That is way too logical. John is on some sort of a misguided personal crusade. I hear he's a real joy to be around.

 

[no1lion99]

Since when is telling the truth a bad thing? They can't help that the truth didn't bolster the AG's case against Spanier. I guess the state would have only been happy if C/S would have perjured themselves on the stand?

Do you understand how plea agreements work? Did you read their plea agreements? The reason a prosecutor would be unhappy with you is because as part of your plea agreement you told them you would say abc but then you get on the stand and say xyz. That's what happened. On the stand in the trial they said something different than what they said in their agreements (and this was pointed out while they were on the stand). That is why they are in danger of going to jail.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

He really seems to have gone off the deep end lately. Latching onto the C/S plea deals as if they are the end all be all while completely ignoring the reality of the tainted jury CSS were facing, OAG shenanigans just to bring charges to trial, and all the other charges they beat, including ALL of the 14 felonies they were charged with.

The admins had such a tangential role in this scandal...his focus on them seems bizarre since it does nothing to fix the broken child welfare system he claims to care so much about.

Shouldn't John be pissed at the state for wasting so much time and money (which could habe been used to actually make PA safer for kids) spending millions just to get a few misdemeanors on some at best tangential players?

He also ignores the fact that The State went lost on the 24 most serious counts they brought because most of them were thrown out by the court due to PROVEN and EGREGIOUS "Prosecutorial Misconduct" by the corrupt PA OAG! Awesome stuff that 3 watered-down charges resulting in Misdemeanor Convictions negates losing on 24 other counts, all of which were far more serious - many Felony Perjury, Obstruction of Justice and Conspiracy related??? Going 0-for-24 on the most significant counts that represented the heart of your Indictments and claims (including having the most serious of these claims thrown out for severe "Prosecutorial Misconduct") and ending up with 3 Misdemeanors from watered-down charges = "Victory" and "vindication" for the proven corrupt PA OAG, and the Citizens of PA, according to troll-boy? Isn't that special.....

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Do you understand how plea agreements work? Did you read their plea agreements? The reason a prosecutor would be unhappy with you is because as part of your plea agreement you told them you would say abc but then you get on the stand and say xyz. That's what happened. On the stand in the trial they said something different than what they said in their agreements (and this was pointed out while they were on the stand). That is why they are in danger of going to jail.

They said something different than the truth they told while cutting their plea deals....and in danger of going to jail.....according to you, and you alone, but that makes it "fact" and "reality"? LMFAO, you are such a tool....

 

[no1lion99]

He really seems to have gone off the deep end lately. Latching onto the C/S plea deals as if they are the end all be all while completely ignoring the reality of the tainted jury CSS were facing, OAG shenanigans just to bring charges to trial, and all the other charges they beat, including ALL of the 14 felonies they were charged with.

The admins had such a tangential role in this scandal...his focus on them seems bizarre since it does nothing to fix the broken child welfare system he claims to care so much about.

Shouldn't John be pissed at the state for wasting so much time and money (which could habe been used to actually make PA safer for kids) spending millions just to get a few misdemeanors on some at best tangential players?

Here's a crazy thought, perhaps it can be both. Perhaps some at the OAG can be corrupt, and CSS can be guilty as sin. I know that's a complicated thought for some of you folks.

 

[no1lion99]

They said something different than the truth they told while cutting their plea deals....and in danger of going to jail.....according to you, and you alone, but that makes it "fact" and "reality"? LMFAO, you are such a tool....

Sorry next post I will randomly CAPITALIZE shit just so the CORRUPT SWIGJ folks in here take me seriously like YOU.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Here's a crazy thought, perhaps it can be both. Perhaps some at the OAG can be corrupt, and CSS can be guilty as sin. I know that's a complicated thought for some of you folks.

Really, when:

• MM has already testified multiple times under oath and in a PA Court of Law that he NEVER "saw" or "eyewitnessed" the claims of the corrupt PA OAG in their Indictments and Indictment producing "33rd SWIGJ Presentment" cited as "Probable Cause".....AND NEVER TOLD ANYONE HE HAD!!!
• When JM and Dr. D have testified multiple times under oath in a PA Court of Law that MM never told them anything remotely similar to the corrupt PA OAG's claims in their Indictments and supporting GJP the evening of 2/9/2001 WHILE THE INCIDENT WAS STILL IN-PROGRESS....and had Mike said anything even remotely resembling a "Criminal Sexual Assault", let alone The State's claim of anal-rape, they would have called Police/911 while the incident was still IN-PROGRESS, reported it and sent them to the scene of the crime RATHER THAN recommend that MM make an AFTER THE FACT REPORT to his Employer via his Direct HR Supervisor!!!

IOW, proven additional PROSECUTORIAL MISCONDUCT of lying in their INDICTMENTS and supporting GJP for the purpose of attempting to MALICIOUSLY PROSECUTE people on "trumped-up" charges based on FRAUDULENT claims....and The State NEVER had an EYEWITNESS, so it would be impossible for a "State Eyewitness" that NEVER EXISTED to tell other people what he had eyewitnessed, when the claimed "eyewitness" that supposedly "saw" these things NEVER existed in the first place you fargging moronic, jack@ss!!! I guess basic laws of physics, reality and logic don't apply in your interpretation of "the law", the "justice system" and SACRED, INALIENABLE CITIZEN RIGHTS OF DUE PROCESS, FAIRNESS and PROTECTION FROM CORRUPT PROSECUTORS granted under both the U.S. & PA Constitutions!!!

Only you believe that C/S/S should be considered "guilty" on COUNTS THEY PREVAILED ON VERSUS THE STATE (and usually prevailed due to massive proven "Prosecutorial Misconduct" by The State) because The State got three minor, unrelated Misdemeanor convictions on watered-down charges (again that were wholly UNRELATED to the most serious claims of Perjury, Obstruction of Justice and Conspiracy which were at the heart of The State's case against PSU and the PSU Administrators that has cost PA Taxpayers well over a billion dollars in direct legal costs and collateral damages....charges proven utterly bereft of basis and brought of wanton "Prosecutorial Misconduct"!!!).

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

That is way too logical. John is on some sort of a misguided personal crusade. I hear he's a real joy to be around.

Probably put up to it, by whoever the boot-licking, servile toad is working for......i.e., "his master"....

 

[WeR0206]

Here's a crazy thought, perhaps it can be both. Perhaps some at the OAG can be corrupt, and CSS can be guilty as sin. I know that's a complicated thought for some of you folks.

I get what you're saying but if you acknowledge that there are corrupt folks in the OAG then how do you know that CSS are "guilty as sin"? The people and process that labeled them as such were corrupt so its hard to take the end result of that process at face value.

The same thing goes with JS trial. If he gets a retrial folks should direct their anger at the OAG/corbett for doing such an unprofessional and incompetent job in prosecuting him the first time, due to their kangaroo court shenanigans they left him all kinds of avenues for appeal starting all the way at the beginning with the GJ process.

Garbage in equals garbage out.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Isn't THIS ARTICLE - Funders Flee Youth Charity Started by Sandusky special as well as it identifies long-term major donors that were fleeing support for TSM - listed among the TSM's biggest financial supporters, The Hershey Co. which is majority-owned by the Hershey Trust, a youth-dedicatd NPO/Charity run by LZ until 2011....oh yea, it mentions US Steel and Surma also. Odd how all of these GOP MontCo-to-Hershey Political Junta supporters are listed as the biggest supporters of TSM (equally odd that Chairman of the Board of TSM would be holding Major Political Fund Raisers for Tom Corbutt during his 2009/2010 Gubernatorial Campaign) and the parties who repeated VIOLATED PA CPS Law and are most responsible for enabling Sandusky - TSM/DPW/CYS - just magically avoid prosecution and are "politically shielded". Gee, the coinky-dinks are just endless.....LMFAO!

This John Yonchuk propagandist also lives smack in the heart of Montgomery County, one of the twin-capitals of the corrupt GOP MontCo-to-Hershey Political Junta....and State abuse-of-powers racketeering machines! Another extraordinary coinky-dink - who'da ever thunk it???

 

[WeR0206]

Do you understand how plea agreements work? Did you read their plea agreements? The reason a prosecutor would be unhappy with you is because as part of your plea agreement you told them you would say abc but then you get on the stand and say xyz. That's what happened. On the stand in the trial they said something different than what they said in their agreements (and this was pointed out while they were on the stand). That is why they are in danger of going to jail.

Do you understand that people can be forced into writing a plea when they have had the OAG's boot on their neck for 5 yrs, were purposely overcharged, and were staring down at an extremely biased jury?

Shocking that when put on the stand they didn't say exactly what they said while under duress and signing their plea deals!! And what they said on the stand more aligned with what they've been saying all along, that 2001 wasn't sexual. Another shocker!!

 

[no1lion99]

I get what you're saying but if you acknowledge that there are corrupt folks in the OAG then how do you know that CSS are "guilty as sin"? The people and process that labeled them as such were corrupt so its hard to take the end result of that process at face value.

The same thing goes with JS trial. If he gets a retrial folks should direct their anger at the OAG/corbett for doing such an unprofessional and incompetent job in prosecuting him the first time, due to their kangaroo court shenanigans they left him all kinds of avenues for appeal starting all the way at the beginning with the GJ process.

Garbage in equals garbage out.

Sure I also understand what you are saying. None of us in the end really know what any of these folks were thinking. WRT Tim and Gary what I do know is that even with almost unlimited legal funds to defend, they put their names on a piece of paper stating they "intentionally, knowingly, and/or recklessly endangered the welfare of children. That was a game changer for me personally. Obviously there are different ways to spin it, but to me it weighed heavily that they "flipped" on Graham after all this time. There are corrupt and evil folks everywhere, but that doesn't absolve good people from doing the right thing.

WRT Jerry I am not worried about his appeals. He may have some small chance of a new trial, and he will be convicted again. I am no lawyer but I have spoken to a couple who have said that it's impossible to predict how a judge will rule, but that most of Jerry's claims are legally out in left field. Ziegler and the free jerry crowd can howl at that moon enough for all of us.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Do you understand that people can be forced into writing a plea when they have had the OAG's boot on their neck for 5 yrs, were purposely overcharged, and were staring down at an extremely biased jury?

Shocking that when put on the stand they didn't say exactly what they said while under duress and signing their plea deals!! And what they said on the stand more aligned with what they've been saying all along, that 2001 wasn't sexual. Another shocker!!

No, he clearly doesn't understand the concept of "Malicious Prosecution", "Prosecutorial Misconduct" OR Constitutionally-Guaranteed Rights and Protections against these things (by both the PA and US Constitutions - i.e., the Highest Law of the Commonwealth and the Nation)!!!

 

[no1lion99]

This John Yonchuk propagandist also lives smack in the heart of Montgomery County, one of the twin-capitals of the corrupt GOP MontCo-to-Hershey Political Junta....and State abuse-of-powers racketeering machines! Another extraordinary coinky-dink - who'da ever thunk it???

Yes what is the statistical chance of a PSU grad living in the same county as someone involved in this corrupt conspiracy of yours...considering its the third most populous county in the state outside of its largest metro area....that's gotta be what, 1 in 6 trillion? Clown.

 

[indynittany]

He's desperately hoping. Almost as if jail time for CSS will somehow validate his very existence...

Why such a cynic? Don't you know this is all about protecting our children?

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Sure I also understand what you are saying. None of us in the end really know what any of these folks were thinking. WRT Tim and Gary what I do know is that even with almost unlimited legal funds to defend, they put their names on a piece of paper stating they "intentionally, knowingly, and/or recklessly endangered the welfare of children. That was a game changer for me personally. Obviously there are different ways to spin it, but to me it weighed heavily that they "flipped" on Graham after all this time. There are corrupt and evil folks everywhere, but that doesn't absolve good people from doing the right thing.

WRT Jerry I am not worried about his appeals. He may have some small chance of a new trial, and he will be convicted again. I am no lawyer but I have spoken to a couple who have said that it's impossible to predict how a judge will rule, but that most of Jerry's claims are legally out in left field. Ziegler and the free jerry crowd can howl at that moon enough for all of us.

Amusing when it is well understood that the parties informing your work (i.e., the "inside parties I talk to") are 100% part of the "Government Corruption Network and Syndicate", the Political Junta emanating out of the MontCo-to-Hershey Axis of GOP Power AND the parties most responsible for FINANCIALLY SUPPORTING and ENABLING Sandusky via his LICENSED State Charity and participation in State-Administered Childcare Programs such as Adoption, Foster-Parenting, Group Homes, etc.....and you are writing from the courtyard of one of the "Two Towers of Evil" in KOP, PA smack dab in the middle of Corruption Central, Montgomery County! Gee, I'm so shocked as to what you've been told to "understand".....LMFAO! There is a big difference between FACTUAL BASED CONCLUSIONS and "Propaganda Spin" for the corrupt (it has to do with "integrity", "fairness", "decency", etc...)...., but I would expect you to "understand" that either twit!

 

[indynittany]

He's desperately hoping. Almost as if jail time for CSS will somehow validate his very existence...

I don't think he or any of these other trolls really care if there's jail time. I think they simply want to keep the conversation focused on them instead of on WHY PA spent 5 1/2 years and $ millions to destroy three innocent men, who at worst can be included among those Jerry fooled. Additionally, I think the last thing these people want is for an honest conversation about why PSU not only refused to defend itself, but did everything it could to move the false narrative forward.

 

[2turgisgrimm]

I don't think he or any of these other trolls really care if there's jail time. I think they simply want to keep the conversation focused on them instead of on WHY PA spent 5 1/2 years and $ millions to destroy three innocent men, who at worst can be included among those Jerry fooled. Additionally, I think the last thing these people want is for an honest conversation about why PSU not only refused to defend itself, but did everything it could to move the false narrative forward.

I'll be glad when PL runs some idiotic crap so they can all go back over there most of the time.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

I don't think he or any of these other trolls really care if there's jail time. I think they simply want to keep the conversation focused on them instead of on WHY PA spent 5 1/2 years and $ millions to destroy three innocent men, who at worst can be included among those Jerry fooled. Additionally, I think the last thing these people want is for an honest conversation about why PSU not only refused to defend itself, but did everything it could to move the false narrative forward.

Or why the parties this @ss is writing on behalf of abused their State-Granted powers and authorities to not only conduct the tyrannies you point out against innocents, but to GO OUT OF THEIR WAY to use their Publicly-Granted Powers & Authorities to SHIELD AND PROTECT the parties who most clearly VIOLATED PA Child Protective Services Law, including not even INVESTIGATING charities under their State Mandate, let alone Indicting them, for their BEYOND OBVIOUS Criminal Violations of the PA CPS Law. Or why this GOP Political Junta & Criminal Syndicate emanating out of MontCo and Hershey can be shown to be the biggest FINANCIAL SUPPORTERS of Sandusky's personal charity that he founded....and the "political/criminal protectors" of Jerry's biggest enablers at DIRECT STATE AGENCIES including TSM's direct licensor and regulator, who made TSM one of its biggest, if not the biggest, Contractors to DPW/CYS in Centre County and the State in general???

 

[LaJolla Lion]

I'll be glad when PL runs some idiotic crap so they can all go back over there most of the time.

As far as anyone knows...you're the only real troll on that PL site that runs over here with their crap. I wonder if PL is giving you a piece of the action as much as you talk and obsess about them. Then again...you certainly can't and don't talk PSU football on this site as you're the biggest troll around.

 

[AvgUser]

WRT Tim and Gary what I do know is that even with almost unlimited legal funds to defend, they put their names on a piece of paper stating they "intentionally, knowingly, and/or recklessly endangered the welfare of children. That was a game changer for me personally. Obviously there are different ways to spin it, but to me it weighed heavily that they "flipped" on Graham after all this time. There are corrupt and evil folks everywhere, but that doesn't absolve good people from doing the right thing.
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As you know, Spanier decided to fight with this same unlimited legal funds. Zero evidence was presented that he did anything wrong/criminal. In fact, it was made known that TSM actually KNEW about 2001 and chose to do nothing. Yet, Spanier also received a parking ticket.

The point is, your conclusion that C&S are guilty because they willingly signed their names to a piece of paper is ludicrous. As stated well above in this thread, it was a risk assessment. Spanier's outcome proved the point. No evidence but a jury of idiots found him guilty.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

As far as anyone knows...you're the only real troll on that PL site that runs over here with their crap. I wonder if PL is giving you a piece of the action as much as you talk and obsess about them. Then again...you certainly can't and don't talk PSU football on this site as you're the biggest troll around.

Rather amusing of the troll defenders of the corrupt PA OAG (turned Governor) complaining about people not talking PSU Football, when the people they're defending threw PSU Football (and PSU Athletes) under the bus, endeavored to DESTROY PSU Football and MALICIOUSLY (with proven fraudulent claims) destroy the reputation of PSU, PSU Football, JVP, PSU's "Success with Honor" / "Grand Experiment" Tradition, etc, etc, etc... Now that the INTEGRITY & CHARACTER that JVP built into his program has sustained The Program through the toughest times of YOUR FRIENDS injustices and CJF has brought it back citing his "restoration" and "connection" to PSU's Glorious Traditions......now you want to talk exclusively about "PSU Football" that your friends disgracefully and unfairly scapegoated to protect themselves (i.e., more of the "Move On" mantra and bull$hit)??? F off - no true PSU Alumnus, "Football Fan" or otherwise, is going to "Move On" until The Truth is known - especially when the people yelling loudest to "Move On" are the most corrupt, self-serving, self-interested, cowardly scum among us!

 

[LaJolla Lion]

Rather amusing of the troll defenders of the corrupt PA OAG (turned Governor) complaining about people not talking PSU Football, when the people they're defending threw PSU Football (and PSU Athletes) under the bus, endeavored to DESTROY PSU Football and MALICIOUSLY (with proven fraudulent claims) destroy the reputation of PSU, PSU Football, JVP, PSU's "Success with Honor" / "Grand Experiment" Tradition, etc, etc, etc... Now that the INTEGRITY & CHARACTER that JVP built into his program has sustained The Program through the toughest times of YOUR FRIENDS injustices and CJF has brought it back citing his "restoration" and "connection" to PSU's Glorious Traditions......now you want to talk exclusively about "PSU Football" that your friends disgracefully and unfairly scapegoated to protect themselves (i.e., more of the "Move On" mantra and bull$hit)??? F off - no true PSU Alumnus, "Football Fan" or otherwise, is going to "Move On" until The Truth is known - especially when the people yelling loudest to "Move On" are the most corrupt, self-serving, self-interested, cowardly scum among us!

Yeah...man...whatever you say. You think you're in some big majority....have at it as you live in a fantasy world and always have. The black helicopter is real and I'm watching....uhhh oh. Watch it mister...I saw that you freak.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Yeah...man...whatever you say. You think you're in some big majority....have at it as you live in a fantasy world and always have. The black helicopter is real and I'm watching....uhhh oh. Watch it mister...I saw that you freak.

Yea, I'm imagining that the corrupt PA OAG lied in claiming they had an EYEWITNESS supporting their "Criminal Sexual Assault" claim of "anal-rape".....that the supposed EYEWITNESS told 2 other parties that night, while the incident was IN-PROGRESS, what he "saw" and "eyewitnessed" - i.e., the anal-rape of a 10 year old.....and subsequently told Curley and Schultz the same - i.e., the anal-rape of a 10 year old.....and Curley and Schultz are committing Perjury in saying they never received such a report from the supposed Eyewitness??? IOW, according to you:

• The State (i.e., the corrupt PA OAG) actually produced the EYEWITNESS claimed in their Indictments and "Probable Cause" supporting GJP AT-TRIAL...
• JM's and Dr. D's SWIGJ testimony and testimony AT-TRIAL agreed with the representations of the corrupt PA OAG's representations in their Indictments and Probable Case" supporting GJP in regards to what MM told them while the incident was still "IN-PROGRESS" about what he SAW and he told them he had seen and eyewitnessed the "anal-rape of a 10 year old".....and this is what caused them to tell MM to eschew calling Police/911 while the incident AND CRIME was still IN-PROGRESS, but instead report it via his HR Channel at work to his direct supervisor WELL AFTER THE FACT, because everybody knows your work supervisor is always responsible for investigating Criminal Rapes and all other CLEAR CRIMES that you "see" and "eyewitness" in your daily life....and they're clearly the "go-to" people to get to the bottom of crimes you witness, especially the anal-rapes of a 10 year old children reported to them WELL AFTER THE FACT and you tell them that Police/911 were not called because you, your father and a family friend Dr determined Police/911 didn't need to be called based on what you reported to them while the incident was still IN-PROGRESS.....

Yep, clearly you're living in stone-cold reality and rationality and I'm the one living in a fantasy kingdom.....LMFAO!, you can't make up the nonsensical and inane concoctions and notions of transparent little dirtbag, troll, scumbags, such as yourself! Bravo, well done moron!

 

[LaJolla Lion]

Yea, I'm imagining that the corrupt PA OAG lied in claiming they had an EYEWITNESS supporting their "Criminal Sexual Assault" claim of "anal-rape".....that the supposed EYEWITNESS told 2 other parties that night, while the incident was IN-PROGRESS, what he "saw" and "eyewitnessed" - i.e., the anal-rape of a 10 year old.....and subsequently told Curley and Schultz the same - i.e., the anal-rape of a 10 year old.....and Curley and Schultz are committing Perjury in saying they never received such a report from the supposed Eyewitness??? IOW, according to you:

• The State (i.e., the corrupt PA OAG) actually produced the EYEWITNESS claimed in their Indictments and "Probable Cause" supporting GJP AT-TRIAL...
• JM's and Dr. D's SWIGJ testimony and testimony AT-TRIAL agreed with the representations of the corrupt PA OAG's representations in their Indictments and Probable Case" supporting GJP in regards to what MM told them while the incident was still "IN-PROGRESS" about what he SAW and he told them he had seen and eyewitnessed the "anal-rape of a 10 year old".....and this is what caused them to tell MM to eschew calling Police/911 while the incident AND CRIME was still IN-PROGRESS, but instead report it via his HR Channel at work to his direct supervisor, because everybody knows your work supervisor is always responsible for investigating Criminal Rapes and all other CLEAR CRIMES that you "see" and "eyewitness" in your daily life....and they're clearly the "go-to" people to get to the bottom of crimes you witness, especially the anal-rapes of a 10 year old child.....

Yep, clearly you're living in stone-cold reality and rationality and I'm the one living in a fantasy kingdom.....LMFAO!, you can't make up the nonsensical and inane concoctions and notions of transparent little dirtbag, troll, scumbags, such as yourself! Bravo, well done moron!

Yep. You imagine a ton of things. I'm a laywer, I'm tied to PA politics. None that is true however I'm all over the place and I'm out drinking some martinis right now with the OAG and we are laughing it up on how we got you. We got you and we're watching you all of the time.

I mean....seriously....get a grip man. You try to spout the same BS daily looking for any ears or eyes to actually go through your rantings, but nobody does. It's become a sideshow.

• Making BULLETS and USING CAPS does nothing when you clearly make sh!t up about people and they know it.

1. Blah, Blah, Blah...
2. rantings
3. TONS OF CAPS
4. STFU you little twat

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Yep. You imagine a ton of things. I'm a laywer, I'm tied to PA politics. None that is true however I'm all over the place and I'm out drinking some martinis right now with the OAG and we are laughing it up on how we got you. We got you and we're watching you all of the time.

I mean....seriously....get a grip man. You try to spout the same BS daily looking for any ears or eyes to actually go through your rantings, but nobody does. It's become a sideshow.

• Making BULLETS and USING CAPS does nothing when you clearly make sh!t up about people and they know it.

1. Blah, Blah, Blah...
2. rantings
3. TONS OF CAPS
4. STFU you little twat

Again, according to you it isn't pure fantasy, a lie and utter made-up bull$hit that the corrupt PA OAG EVER had an EYEWITNESS to their Indictment/GJP claims, let alone a witness that NEVER EXISTED supposedly telling 2 other people that night while the incident was IN-PROGRESS, and 3 others WELL AFTER THE FACT, what he "saw" and "eyewitnessed" - the anal-rape of a 10 year old......this is the equivalent of a child saying "Mr. Nobody, my invented friend, gave them the eyewitness account of the anal-rape".....and the corrupt OAG citing "Mr. Nobody" as their "star eyewitness" and claiming this satisfies Probable Cause and "particulars" requirements under the law and Constitutional Due Process Protections?!?!

But I'm the one living in a "fantasy kingdom" and you're living in stone-cold reality and rationality....whatever you say Madhatter!

 

[LaJolla Lion]

Well since it is according to me...just quote me on it.

 

[2turgisgrimm]

I don't think he or any of these other trolls really care if there's jail time. I think they simply want to keep the conversation focused on them instead of on WHY PA spent 5 1/2 years and $ millions to destroy three innocent men, who at worst can be included among those Jerry fooled. Additionally, I think the last thing these people want is for an honest conversation about why PSU not only refused to defend itself, but did everything it could to move the false narrative forward.

The fun thing about trolls is, they're too stupid to realize when they're on ignore.