Zero catches for zero yards. Not his fault. Stop blaming ANYONE ELSEJust a dumb play. No excuse for that. He was brought in to win these types of games and he loses them all.
Zero catches for zero yards. Not his fault. Stop blaming ANYONE ELSEJust a dumb play. No excuse for that. He was brought in to win these types of games and he loses them all.
He's coached by the best choke artist in the business.Just a dumb play. No excuse for that. He was brought in to win these types of games and he loses them all.
Another huge disappointment. Not a single signature win. Illinois?What a wild ride it's been. 11-win regular season. Berth in the CCG. Two do-or-die playoff wins. And now a final-4 matchup against Notre Dame. Still playing football on January 9. This year has been one for the books.
And how great would it be to keep this going for another 11 days with the accompanying buzz and excitement around the program. Counting down the hours til kick!
Too late. He is defined. So is his head coach.I won't be able to sleep tonight thinking about that last turnover. I just don't understand it. The call, the throw all just horrible. As someone said similar to the end of the Oregon game. Where we just throw it up for no reason.
But I actually do like Allar and hope this game doesn't define him.
Another disappointing season. No big wins. Failed in conference (twice).Good run. We wanted in the playoff. We won twice and took an L late in the semis.
Let's watch again tomorrow night.
Fun game to watch. But a colossal disappointment and another Underachieving season.Well, PSU didn’t win, but it was still a fun football game to watch. Great way to spend the evening.
Sun was always going to rise in the morning, win or lose, at my house. (Probably behind the typical gray clouds.)
Hope everyone here can avoid calling each other names and hurling criticism at kids who were playing a game and giving it their best imperfect efforts.
Great season. Good night to all.
Who did we best with a pulse? Illinois? Please don’t tell me Boise or SMU. We had three games of merit in order of difficulty: O$U, Oregon, Notre Dame . Al three were failures. Should have won two of them but at least one would have been acceptable.I hate it when Ohio State kicks our a**, but they’re better than us. What’s more aggravating is losing to what I think is a very mediocre, clearly inferior ND team. It blows.
Well, it was an excellent season and a fun ride to be still in it in mid January. It’s now on to wrestling and fantasy baseball prep. Night all.
Laughable. No way this team overachieved.Good season. Proud of the team. It didn't end how I would have liked but they over achieved.
James beat zero top teams again. He once again beat average coaches and lost all who are equal or better.Stop acting like a retard. We were in the effing semis. Almost won.
An average coach has been sitting at home for weeks.
You’re a below average fan.
There is no justification for keeping Hagans a single day longer than today.Another disappointing season. No big wins. Failed in conference (twice).
If we want to compete at highest level, we need to reclaim mental toughness. It won’t be easy but I would like to see us try.
We’ll never get such an easy draw again. Two MAC-level teams, beat up ND team that frankly is not that good.
But the seeds of this groundhog day were sewn long ago. Not a single serviceable WR on the roster. That should be a dismissible offense.
I am paid to do my job and need to be accountable. They are paid to do theirs and need to be accountable as well.I agree with your premise. They stopped being kids when they started getting paid millions of dollars to play and the money is coming from our wallets. (At least some is coming from mine)
James recruited a bunch of mostly non-elite high school talent and coached them to within inches of the National Championship Game.James beat zero top teams again. He once again beat average coaches and lost all who are equal or better.
Who did we best with a pulse? Illinois? Please don’t tell me Boise or SMU. We had three games of merit in order of difficulty: O$U, Oregon, Notre Dame . Al three were failures. Should have won two of them but at least one would have been acceptable.
Time to give someone else a try.
Perhaps 180 degrees to a discipline and details guy.
Yes, but there’s a very good chance you didn’t finish the year in the top 4 of “janitorial engineers.”I am paid to do my job and need to be accountable. They are paid to do theirs and need to be accountable as well.
It's a message board where people vent frustration about the same things that happen over and over, and results stay the same. Maybe go to the wrestling board if you don't want to read whiny posts.You guys are babies and why I don't go to games . Our fans are whiny pussies
Go to a wrestling match if you wanna be guaranteed of other domination with next to a 0% chance of losing ever. That should last for a good 5 to 15 more years so you could have it in a bag till then.
What’s the excuse for not recruiting better talent - and developing it - at WR?James recruited a bunch of mostly non-elite high school talent and coached them to within inches of the National Championship Game.
If you aren’t happy with where James has brought this program, perhaps you should find something better, and more aligned with your capabilities, to do with your time … like staring at walls.
Exactly...and look at the recruiting rankings for the WR's...it's not like it's full of two star guys. Saunders was supposed to be something and he is awful. Trey and Omari should be better. JF has whiffed on the position coaches and overall development.What’s the excuse for not recruiting better talent - and developing it - at WR?
Since that is part of his job description.
Embarrassing performance by the WR room.
Time to give someone else a chance.
How long? Till he is 1-25 in big games? 1-35? 1-50?I’d rather just have all the fake fans go away, rather than try to ruin the good thing we have going with Franklin at the helm.
This loss sucks. The team - the coach, the players - do not. Take some time off, tweak some things, and get right back at it.
We’ll have an entertaining, successful team we can be proud of … yet again … next year.
Purpose Pitch calling critical fans fake? Why, b/c our national reputation as 'frauds', 'pretenders,' or any similar adjective should be accepted? We are a total laughingstock in these games....the butt of every joke. For a program that has all the high draft picks, tradition, fan support, etc., to not make big leaps and strides in big games after this many years is maddening. The numbers bear themselves out and they are flat out embarrassing. We don't even accidentally win one of these games...like stumble into a W. We find more ways to lose than the other team actually just beats us. Joe always used the word 'poise'...that is something that we have ZERO of in big moments in big games. You can see it manifest itself before it happens. We blew two different, 10-0 leads...we had them vs OSU and ND...granted early in the games and not some massive lead, but again, we just don't know how to win these games. It's mental softness...low football IQ, special teams that don't win games or move the needle from the return game side of things....too many problem areas that I'm sure JF will fix in year 12.How long? Till he is 1-25 in big games? 1-35? 1-50?
He never has to work another day in his life.
He has not EARNED the right to lead a program with the potential of PSU.
Best chance to improve? Florida takes him.
Agreed. 1-18 against top five is horrible. He had another chance last night. The Penn State offensive line dominated. How do you run all over a team and lose. How do you not a have a single competitive receiver with a ****ing portal to close that gap.How long? Till he is 1-25 in big games? 1-35? 1-50?
He never has to work another day in his life.
He has not EARNED the right to lead a program with the potential of PSU.
Best chance to improve? Florida takes him.
#2 is an excellent observation. And a very telling oneLooking back a few things I remember noticing.
1. Our players are never ready on the 1st drive of either half. That's coaching.
2. When the game was on the line and the ND QB got flushed out of the pocket and ran down by 11, he came back to the huddle smiling. He wanted to be there and accepted the moment. Drew looked terrified that he might make a mistake. He didn't wanna be in that situation.
3. It's easy to make adjustments for ND's defense when they realize that they can load the box and our WR's still arnt a threat. Boise made the same adjustments, they just were not talented enough to capitalize. Not a ton the OC can do when your best receiver can't win on single coverage even when Drew has time to work through his progressions.
It is what it is. This team was a Dotson type receiver away from being really good.
Agreed. We are considered a total fraud in big games.Purpose Pitch calling critical fans fake? Why, b/c our national reputation as 'frauds', 'pretenders,' or any similar adjective should be accepted? We are a total laughingstock in these games....the butt of every joke. For a program that has all the high draft picks, tradition, fan support, etc., to not make big leaps and strides in big games after this many years is maddening. The numbers bear themselves out and they are flat out embarrassing. We don't even accidentally win one of these games...like stumble into a W. We find more ways to lose than the other team actually just beats us. Joe always used the word 'poise'...that is something that we have ZERO of in big moments in big games. You can see it manifest itself before it happens.
What’s the excuse for not recruiting better talent - and developing it - at WR?
Since that is part of his job description.
Embarrassing performance by the WR room.
Time to give someone else a chance.
I’m calling “fans” like you fake because you’re just a whiny, tantrum throwing b!tch. All season long, all you’ve done is complain and criticize. Complain and criticize a program that was within a whisker of the national championship. Not some team that finished sub .500. A team that was as successful as one could imagine. A team that exceeded expectations. A team that already had lofty expectations (for a reason). And all you did was cry, the entire ride.Purpose Pitch calling critical fans fake? Why, b/c our national reputation as 'frauds', 'pretenders,' or any similar adjective should be accepted? We are a total laughingstock in these games....the butt of every joke. For a program that has all the high draft picks, tradition, fan support, etc., to not make big leaps and strides in big games after this many years is maddening. The numbers bear themselves out and they are flat out embarrassing. We don't even accidentally win one of these games...like stumble into a W. We find more ways to lose than the other team actually just beats us. Joe always used the word 'poise'...that is something that we have ZERO of in big moments in big games. You can see it manifest itself before it happens. We blew two different, 10-0 leads...we had them vs OSU and ND...granted early in the games and not some massive lead, but again, we just don't know how to win these games. It's mental softness...low football IQ, special teams that don't win games or move the needle from the return game side of things....too many problem areas that I'm sure JF will fix in year 12.
I would love to know if Andy or Franklin reminded Drew to not take any chances because we have OT.Game came down to three plays
Should have had easy td to Singleton on first drive on that short pass
Should have recovered that fumble late in first half
Should not have forced the ball with 40 seconds left and just dumped short passes to singleton to see if he could break yardage. OT should have been protected
Any of those three plays changed Penn State wins.
Let’s run it back next year
You don't think our blowouts of SMU and Boise weren't better wins than Illinois?? They were picked for the 12-team playoffs and had a collective record of 23-3 when we hammered them. I don't know that I would call these "signature wins" but they weren't far off from that. This season was not a "huge disappointment" in my opinion. It was the best Penn State football season since the high points of the Paterno years. Looking at our roster, next year's team might be even better. We have a lot to be proud of as Penn State fans and a lot to look forward to.Another huge disappointment. Not a single signature win. Illinois?
Proud of how the team played.......except Drew. He played a really horrible game. Especially that last interception. Inexcusable decision.
There is no justification for keeping Hagans a single day longer than today.
Hey I had one engineering prof tell me “exams we’re a learning experience” it explained a lot why our exam questions were over material we hadn’t covered.Steve Largent wasn't the fastest guy in the world, but he could run a route. One can't blame the talent whatever grades you assign them. Reminds me of CHEM451. The class average on one test was 33%. The professor stood up in front of 150 kids he clearly didn't prepare, and told them he was disappointed in us. 150 kids got it all wrong.................. lol....
There has been some overreaction but people have the right to vent. Besides, shouldn't you be over on the Hawkeye Beacon wrestling forum kissing their asses?You guys are babies and why I don't go to games . Our fans are whiny pussies
Go to a wrestling match if you wanna be guaranteed of other domination with next to a 0% chance of losing ever. That should last for a good 5 to 15 more years so you could have it in a bag till then.
He was trying to throw it away at Omari's feet, he said.