ODs in Pittsburgh last night
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and yet we blame suppliers for our problems- when the real problem is users
And the prevalence of free Narcan as a "back up plan" isn't helping things either.
"What, you're having a life-threatening drug overdose? Here, have some free Narcan"
"What, you're having a life-threatening allergy reaction? Sorry, gonna have to pay for that epi-pen"
"What, you're having a life-threatening drug overdose? Here, have some free Narcan"
"What, you're having a life-threatening allergy reaction? Sorry, gonna have to pay for that epi-pen"
To be clear, many of the epipen initiatives were around putting them everywhere so they’d be “free” in emergency situations. Which of course drives the price up for commercial sales. As it would if Narcan were a drug people picked up for personal use.
In a related story rumors that Reverend Jim Jones has been seen around Pittsburgh lately.
Decriminalize drugs, help those who want help, and let those who don’t want help proceed to what’s next.
I did not see that in the story either. Was waiting for it, but it is reported in this story as multiple overdose calls at one residence.
You are right. I edited the title of the post. The internet has a fair amount of local comments on this and what was attempted. Probably should not have posted this.
On a side note: I am a DVM. We use epinephrine quite often in cattle for reactions. We once were able to get Epinephrine 50 cc bottle for $10.00 (that's correct TEN DOLLARS). It has now gone to $122.00 for 5cc BOTTLE (not 50 cc bottle). The average animal would get 7 - 10 cc's. Just doesn't make sense anymore.
By the way.... you can still buy epinephrine in CANADA for that $10 for a 50cc bottle.... go figure that.
To be fair, a lot of people are dying from Fentanyl and do not even know they are taking it. That garbage is coming from China, yet we still allow them to send that garbage hear.
The above does not mean I condone people using opioids.
Importation of Fentanyl from China is not allowed. The U.S. simply doesn't do a good job of preventing it.
That seems to be a rumor someone made up on Facebook and people ran with it. For a couple reasons - notably, one of the deceased being found in the elevator and another being found on Carson Street two blocks away - make that rumor far less likely.
It seems much more likely that the people involved were out partying and whatever they took when they were out - probably one of cocaine, pain pills, molly or xanax - was cut with fentanyl unbeknownst to them, and they all started to OD on their way home.
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^^^ This! ^^^
Don't look now but this pertains to a lot of our problems to include...
drum roll... guns. Thank you.
In either case they’re both to blame.
Cosmos, I owe you an apology. I confused you with Crusher regarding Parsons. Sorry. Otherwise, I stand by my post.
I was a state parole agent for 8 years before I took a new position with K9 this year, and my last year in the field (2018) my heroin addicts always talked about their “Narcan parties” and how much of a rush it was. I could not believe what my ears were hearing.
I went to eight funerals in 2018 for guys I supervised because of fentanyl related OD’s. I didn’t really feel bad for those using, just those they were leaving behind. Tough to see parents bury kids. I remember one family was so poor that they had a go fund me account set up where they raised $75.00. They had to have to viewing on a Friday night at 8 pm and had to use a rental casket.
I went to eight funerals in 2018 for guys I supervised because of fentanyl related OD’s. I didn’t really feel bad for those using, just those they were leaving behind. Tough to see parents bury kids. I remember one family was so poor that they had a go fund me account set up where they raised $75.00. They had to have to viewing on a Friday night at 8 pm and had to use a rental casket.
Nah, it was Rev Jim in town taking his PA driving test.
“What does a yellow light mean?”
Users can’t use if their isn’t a supplier. Suppliers can’t provide if there aren’t users. Equal blame.
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Personally I favor the execution of major drug traffickers. I remember watching an episode of Drugs Inc on Nat Geo. They had an ambulance driver on and he said if you get rid of these vermin, you probably eliminate 80 - 85% of crime.
supply and demand- without demand there is simply no incentive to supply
the problem is users, always has been- it's not a mystery
Vet pricing is crazy.
As to Canada, well yes we subsidize the world. Then again you have virtually no tort rights in Canada or rest of world under single payer.
We don't subsidize the world- drug pricing here is what it is because Congress allows it. Congress allows it because they have been well paid to take care of the drug companies. They make money off foreign sales, just not the obscene money they make off us. The industry uses some of those profits to buy politicians... and on it goes.
Not correct. We subsidize the world. Particularly when development costs and losses are factored in. Everyone just loves to talk about direct costs. But as in any business indirect costs have a nasty habit of being real.We don't subsidize the world- drug pricing here is what it is because Congress allows it. Congress allows it because they have been well paid to take care of the drug companies. They make money off foreign sales, just not the obscene money they make off us. The industry uses some of those profits to buy politicians... and on it goes.
you are free to believe what you believe, but if you think drug companies are selling anywhere at a loss, you are mistaken
It's really both in a vicious cycle. If there's no product there's no use; no users means no supply incentive.
I told your pal unless he stopped beating his wife and drinking this was the end.
You say that like an ambulance driver is some sort of expert on crime. I'm sure it would have an impact. But 80-85%? I'm not buying it. Alcohol, poverty, mental illness, etc. are all major crime contributors as well.
our politicians do not represent the people ... they represent the checkbooks that put $$$ in their hands.
